Low Carb High Protein and Working Out

MrsKYork
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I'm trying to get in shape and lose baby weight. I'm 27. My doctor has me doing a 1200 calorie diet in which my carbs are between 80-100, protein is between 80-120 depending upon workouts, and fat is 40 or below. I've been doing great with the diet and I've been able to lose 7.5 lbs of body fat while gaining 4 lbs of muscle over the past 2 weeks. My problem is that I don't feel like I have enough energy for my workouts. I'm doing an hour on the elliptical 5 days a week and my heart rate is staying around 75-85% of my max throughout that hour. Afterwards, I'm doing P90x and keeping my heart rate up depending on which video it is. Some increase my hr more than others. The other problem I have is today when I was on the elliptical after about 45 minutes I started having tingly sensations running from my head down my arms. When I finished my workout I felt so lightheaded. I had a protein shake and some carbs immediately but it was such a weird feeling. Should I be getting more carbs? My doc thinks I have to stay in the range I'm in to lose weight best even though I'm working out hard. I'd love to get some feedback from anyone else.
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My concern about what your doctor has set up for you is that when you do lower carb you need to up your fat. Thats where your energy is going to come from.0
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm really new to this and learning a lot. Prior to having children, I had a great metabolism and had never dieted in my life so I'm pretty clueless. That's the main reason I'm working with my doctor because it's difficult to determine the best way to lose weight. Everything you read has a different approach it seems. I'll have to look into the fat. I thought the idea was that my body would burn my fat stores?0
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I'm also concerned that at 1200 calories and that much exercise, your net calories per day is very low. While you'll lose in the short term, it's tough to build muscle when you have nothing left for fueling them. Purely my opinion.0
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Are you eating back your exercise calories?0
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Is your doctor monitoring you? If so, I would be asking him/her, not a bunch of random internet people. You will get so many different answers and opinions here from people with the best intentions but absolutely no medical knowledge at all and you will end up even more confused.
Speak to your doc, they might not have intended for you to do intense excersise while on such low calories.0 -
Fat burns faster than Carbs do. I have been following the Atkins diet with high protein and fat, carbs are non starchy veggies. The recipes on the Atkins site are delicious.0
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My doctor has me doing a 1200 calorie diet in which my carbs are between 80-100, protein is between 80-120 depending upon workouts, and fat is 40 or below.
My doc thinks I have to stay in the range I'm in to lose weight best even though I'm working out hard. I'd love to get some feedback from anyone else.
Because if they are not, I would not trust their advice. I speak from experience. I had a doctor try to put me on an 800 calorie per-day diet where she didn't want to supervise me - "just come back in when you've lost 25 pounds." Needless to say, I didn't last long on that diet! Most doctors receive a few HOURS of nutritional education in their entire 7 years of medical school. Just because they are certified in "internal medicine," or another specialty, that doesn't mean they know anything about nutrition. They may know just enough to be dangerous. Not slamming any doctors who may be on here - but it wasn't until I met with a nutritionist that I started understanding why no doctor that I ever talked to seemed to really know anything useful about losing weight through diet modification. I would get a second opinion. Hope that helps.0 -
Also, re: gaining 4 lbs of muscle in 2 weeks. It's likely not muscle, but water retention for muscle repair. A woman eating at a surplus and lifting heavy can only hope to gain about 10 lbs of muscle per year.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html0 -
I'm trying to get in shape and lose baby weight. I'm 27. My doctor has me doing a 1200 calorie diet in which my carbs are between 80-100, protein is between 80-120 depending upon workouts, and fat is 40 or below. I've been doing great with the diet and I've been able to lose 7.5 lbs of body fat while gaining 4 lbs of muscle over the past 2 weeks.
am I the only that noticed this gem..??? four pounds of muscle in two weeks while eating 1200 cals…suuuurrrrreeeeeee0 -
It is my understanding that you cannot build muscle when eating at a calorie deficit. You certainly didn't build 4 pounds of muscle in two weeks.0
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if you are getting lightheaded, feeling "tingly", etc then you are probably not eating enough …up the cals by 100 per day and see how your work outs go ….0
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Firstly, it sounds likeyour not eating enough to support healthy weightloss.
Check out the 'eat more to weigh less' group.
Search the groups for posts on TDEE (total daily expected expenditure) and work out what yours is, then subtract 20%.
Post delivery - are you breast feeding as well? Exclusive breast feeding burns another 500cals/day.
I'm barely 5"0' and still eat more than 1200/day to loose weight, expecially if exercising that day.
Severe dietary restrictions are hard to follow, make you grumpy and tired, and force your metabolism to slow down. It can take >1yr to recover from this leading to incresed likelyhood of regaining any weight lost.
Message me if you have any questions.0 -
I'm trying to get in shape and lose baby weight. I'm 27. My doctor has me doing a 1200 calorie diet in which my carbs are between 80-100, protein is between 80-120 depending upon workouts, and fat is 40 or below. I've been doing great with the diet and I've been able to lose 7.5 lbs of body fat while gaining 4 lbs of muscle over the past 2 weeks.
am I the only that noticed this gem..??? four pounds of muscle in two weeks while eating 1200 cals…suuuurrrrreeeeeee
Seems like she's using one of those scales.0 -
At least your doctor is trying. Last week I saw a new doctor because of new coverage. I told him about my challenges and that I needed help. He said if he knew anything he wouldn't be fat. (he wasn't even fat, he was like me, still need to do a little something in the weight department). Be sure of his intentions in what he has you doing, that you understand him and not making any assumptions.0
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IMO ?
Doctor's, for the most part, know bugger all about nutrition and healthy weight loss.
I suggest you up your calories, so you are at least netting 1200 (ie, you are eating back what you burn exercising)
and also try upping either fat or carbs. I am honestly not surprised you are struggling, I would be dying doing my workouts on that sort of level of carbs, but then I do a lot of interval cardio as well as weights. I have tried going lower carb, higher fat, and it just did not work for me, personally. It is not going to be suited to all people. You need to find what works for you, and allows you to sustain this.0 -
Also do you have a medical condition that requires you to limit carbs? If not you may not need to do so. I eat over 200 carbs per day. When I drop below that my workouts suffer. And I only run twice per week-- if I was doing cardio 5 days per week I'd need more.0
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IMO ?
Doctor's, for the most part, know bugger all about nutrition and healthy weight loss.
My medical school had about 25 hours in total. It wasn't until my own diagnosis of Type II diabetes that I delved deeper into research on nutrition, and found out almost everything I thought I "knew" about nutrition may have been the conventional-wisdom - but wasn't correct.I suggest you up your calories, so you are at least netting 1200 (ie, you are eating back what you burn exercising)
and also try upping either fat or carbs. I am honestly not surprised you are struggling, I would be dying doing my workouts on that sort of level of carbs, but then I do a lot of interval cardio as well as weights. I have tried going lower carb, higher fat, and it just did not work for me, personally. It is not going to be suited to all people. You need to find what works for you, and allows you to sustain this.
Also, with the amount of carbohydrate you're eating - it's what many would consider "low carb" but probably NOT low enough to get you keto-adapted. As such you're primary fuel source is glucose - but you're not getting ENOUGH of it. To rectify this you need to either increase your carbohydrate intake, OR reduce it to below 50 and increase fat more.
That being said though I don't personally recommend going into ketosis UNLESS you have a medical reason for doing so. It's really not necessary unless you have an impaired glucose metabolism. If you're insulin-resistant and/or have hyperglycaemia it's great. But the vast majority of dieters simply do NOT need it.
The insulin-resistant that can benefit from keto include people with PCOS, Hashimoto's thyroiditis, Metabolic Syndrome, Type II diabetes, etc. If you're only a little overweight and don't have one of the above issues, I'd stick with natural, whole foods ... a slight caloric deficit ... and moderation in your macros.0 -
My doctor is a family physician. He has a scale that tells your body fat, muscle, and water weight so that’s how I got the numbers. I have no idea how accurate those scales are but he acted like it was very accurate. I thought 4lbs of muscle seemed like a lot but again I’m very new to this so I have no idea. I am lactating but since I’m trying to lose weight and working out hard I’m pumping and dump for the time being. I have an oversupply so I have enough frozen milk to last for quite some time. My doctor and pediatrician said that it wasn’t safe to workout really hard and cut calories while nursing because of the release of toxins that would be in the milk, hence the pumping and dumping. My doctor is completely aware of my exercise regimen and food intake. I actually saw him yesterday because I wanted to make sure that I didn’t need to increase my carbs because I was struggling and really not feeling well when working out. He said to stick with the low carbs and increase protein. He also said not to eat back exercise calories or it would defeat the purpose. Thanks for all the advice. I’m going to make an appointment with a nutritionist asap. Like I said, I’m very new to this. I have been a runner since middle school and always ate decent but never had to keep tabs on it until spending 4 months on bed rest from a horrible pregnancy.0
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I am lactating but since I’m trying to lose weight and working out hard I’m pumping and dump for the time being. I have an oversupply so I have enough frozen milk to last for quite some time. My doctor and pediatrician said that it wasn’t safe to workout really hard and cut calories while nursing because of the release of toxins that would be in the milk, hence the pumping and dumping.0
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" I have been a runner since middle school and always ate decent but never had to kep tabs on it until spending 4 months on bed rest from a horrible pregnancy."
One more thing I just want to bring up, and I apologize if this offends you, or if I'm reading the situation wrong from limited info. If you had a rough pregnancy and were on bedrest, and then now have the baby and are dealing with being a new mom, you have been on a rough ride! It is very normal to have feelings of anxiety or depression as a new mother. Sometimes those feelings can get overwhelming and scary, and focusing on something else is the only way to get relief. I am going to make a gentle suggestion that you talk to your obstetrician about the possibility that you might be experiencing some postpartum depression. I had it; many women who have rough pregnancies experience it. Exercise can help your mood but it's a temporary fix. Again, I apologize if this suggestion is off base.0 -
My son is 14 months old which is why I decided to pump and dump and give him frozen milk. I've spent the past 12 months trying to lose weight by just eating clean and walking/jogging with the baby. That wasn't cutting it. I have about 25 lbs to go and finally decided that I couldn't wait until I stop nursing. I nursed my oldest until he was 26 months. I'm not waiting another year to get this weight off. I'm a huge supporter of breastfeeding and I know about all the wonderful benefits for baby and mom. My problem is that I'm just not losing that weight and I was nervous to workout too hard while feeding him because I didn't want him getting toxins from the milk. He has always preferred the bottle which my oldest did not so it was a very easy transition for him. My doctor is definitely giving me a hard time about my weight but I've never been overweight before this pregnancy so I guess that's why. I had to have a crap load of hormones and fluids throughout my pregnancy and it just really screwed my body up. Hopefully working with a nutritionist will be more beneficial than my family doc has been.0
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Ellamay77: I did have some PPD early on. I got help immediately because it was the worst feeling I had ever had. That has since resolved with the help of therapy and some medicine for several months. The horrible experience I had with this pregnancy compared to my first was a huge strain mentally on me. I've always been a very active person. I worked full time and jogged all the way until 3 days before my first son was born. When I was put on bed rest with my youngest it was the worst experience. Fortunately, I have a great support system at home. Thanks for the recommendation. If I was a month or two postpartum, your advice would have been very helpful. Thanks again!0
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My doctor is a family physician. He has a scale that tells your body fat, muscle, and water weight so that’s how I got the numbers. I have no idea how accurate those scales are but he acted like it was very accurate. I thought 4lbs of muscle seemed like a lot but again I’m very new to this so I have no idea. I am lactating but since I’m trying to lose weight and working out hard I’m pumping and dump for the time being. I have an oversupply so I have enough frozen milk to last for quite some time. My doctor and pediatrician said that it wasn’t safe to workout really hard and cut calories while nursing because of the release of toxins that would be in the milk, hence the pumping and dumping. My doctor is completely aware of my exercise regimen and food intake. I actually saw him yesterday because I wanted to make sure that I didn’t need to increase my carbs because I was struggling and really not feeling well when working out. He said to stick with the low carbs and increase protein. He also said not to eat back exercise calories or it would defeat the purpose. Thanks for all the advice. I’m going to make an appointment with a nutritionist asap. Like I said, I’m very new to this. I have been a runner since middle school and always ate decent but never had to keep tabs on it until spending 4 months on bed rest from a horrible pregnancy.
Honestly it sounds like he doesn't understand MFP, which is common because it's the only plan I know of where you're meant to eat back exercise calories. But if you're eating your calorie goal then you're ALREADY at a deficit without exercise. You are a new mom and you're breast feeding-- if anything you need to be eating more. I think I've heard 300-500 extra calories per day just for that, without the cardio and all. No wonder you feel terrible.
I can't speak to the breast feeding part-- I don't know much about it and I don't want to give you bad advice. However, there are a few things here that are worrisome. I don't like telling people not to listen to their doctor, so instead I'm going to suggest you ask for a referral to a dietician.0 -
I'm trying to get in shape and lose baby weight. I'm 27. My doctor has me doing a 1200 calorie diet in which my carbs are between 80-100, protein is between 80-120 depending upon workouts, and fat is 40 or below. I've been doing great with the diet and I've been able to lose 7.5 lbs of body fat while gaining 4 lbs of muscle over the past 2 weeks. My problem is that I don't feel like I have enough energy for my workouts. I'm doing an hour on the elliptical 5 days a week and my heart rate is staying around 75-85% of my max throughout that hour. Afterwards, I'm doing P90x and keeping my heart rate up depending on which video it is. Some increase my hr more than others. The other problem I have is today when I was on the elliptical after about 45 minutes I started having tingly sensations running from my head down my arms. When I finished my workout I felt so lightheaded. I had a protein shake and some carbs immediately but it was such a weird feeling. Should I be getting more carbs? My doc thinks I have to stay in the range I'm in to lose weight best even though I'm working out hard. I'd love to get some feedback from anyone else.
Wow, doesn't sound good (tingly feelings).
I eat low carb and can exercise not problem on around 100g, but only when I am either doing short bursts of energy (tennis), or hiking, cycling where I am running at less than 75% effort.
Anything over that I am needing to eat more carbs. The ketones in your body can comfortably fuel your muscles for low level activity (<75%). Any thing over that and you will depleting the stored glycogen in your muscles, which will need to be re-fuelled.
If you are eating in a deficit and working out hard, pretty much any carbs you eat will be accessed immediately as fuel and shouldn't be spiking your insulin too much.
Why not speak to your doctor and discuss eating higher carbs on heavy workout day.
Good luck.0 -
The drs who told you to pump and dump, they do not deserve to be called drs. I do not know where you live and what the laws are in your country, but where I am it would be enough to report them for malpractice.0
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