How much protein do I REALLY need

jaz050465
jaz050465 Posts: 3,508 Member
I'm 147 pounds and just about to start P90X3. According to the guide - I need 113g protein. Im a vegetarian and semi vegan- I don't really eat dairy products. Do I really need this amount as the only way I'm going to get it is protein shakes and that seems such a waste of calories.

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  • jaz050465
    jaz050465 Posts: 3,508 Member
    By the way- PLEASE don't try to sell me Shakeology.
  • RobsGirl_lds
    RobsGirl_lds Posts: 211 Member
    If you are trying to build muscle I believe it is 1g/LBM if you are trying to just preserve muscle I believe it is .6-.8/LBM.
  • dixiewhiskey
    dixiewhiskey Posts: 3,333 Member
    I usually eat to match my muscle mass.. estimated muscle mass is 137lbs so I aim to eat 137g of protein everyday.
  • NoxDineen
    NoxDineen Posts: 497 Member
    I'm also vegan and I drink at least 1 protein shake every day because there's no other way I've found to get anywhere near the amount of protein I need to feel healthy and alert. It's hardly a waste of calories, though. 1 scoop of vegan protein, which is 28 grams of protein, is 110 calories. Throw in a tablespoon of chia seeds and a cup of almond milk and it's still under 175 calories.

    As an alternative I'm also looking into sources of organic, cruelty-free, free range eggs (somebody I know personally and trust has a farm outside the city, and gets her eggs from a neighbour whose chickens she has personally seen cared for).. If that's a possibility for you it might be worth considering.
  • Showcase_Brodown
    Showcase_Brodown Posts: 919 Member
    That is a very difficult question to answer. I know that 1g/lb body weight is enough. It's probably more than enough, but I like the idea of supplying more than enough instead of not quite enough, as long as it's not too much. That is another can of worms.
  • rjmudlax13
    rjmudlax13 Posts: 900 Member
    113 sounds about right.

    I am not a vegetarian, so I am probably not the best at giving you advice on getting to your goal, however here are some high quality vegetarian foods:

    Eggs (not sure if you are the type would doesn't eat eggs?)
    Quinoa
    Nuts & Seeds
    Peanut Butter
    Oats
    Beans
  • jaz050465
    jaz050465 Posts: 3,508 Member
    113 sounds about right.

    I am not a vegetarian, so I am probably not the best at giving you advice on getting to your goal, however here are some high quality vegetarian foods:

    Eggs (not sure if you are the type would doesn't eat eggs?)
    Quinoa
    Nuts & Seeds
    Peanut Butter
    Oats
    Beans

    I do eat those but lots of those things are high calorie and so it's difficult to get the protein level up whilst keeping to my calorie target.
  • crystalflame
    crystalflame Posts: 1,049 Member
    In to advocate protein shakes. I'm not vegetarian, but I still struggle with protein - I'm not a fan of huge slabs of meat. I do a protein shake for breakfast every morning, and it keeps me full until lunch. I usually blend it with fruit - berries, banana, etc. - and sometimes PB2, and since the powder comes in a lot of different flavors I can change it up so I don't get tired of it. Made with milk and with the fruit mixed in, it's about 250 calories and nutrient dense. Very worthwhile, IMO.
  • jenn26point2
    jenn26point2 Posts: 429 Member
    The rule I've read is 0.8 gm per kg of body weight for loss, 1 gm per kg of body weight for maintenance and 1.25 gm per kg of body weight for athletes.

    I am 183 lbs. I eat 100 gm a day. I marathon train and lift heavy. And I don't do protein shakes. 100 gm is totally do able with real food.
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    If you are trying to build muscle I believe it is 1g/LBM if you are trying to just preserve muscle I believe it is .6-.8/LBM.

    Other way around - it sounds counter-intuitive, but you need to eat more protein when you are eating in a deficit to preserve what you have - your body is looking to break things down for energy, and muscle is expensive to keep. You need to discourage that by making sure those muscles get used and that there is more than enough amino acids around to keep them maintained.

    When you are eating in a sufficient surplus, you just need enough amino acid building building blocks for the muscle, not extra to discourage muscle catabolism.
  • jaz050465
    jaz050465 Posts: 3,508 Member
    I'm seeing figures of 1 g per pound, per KG and per pound of lean body mass.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    This guy recommends 0.82g per pound of body weight. Which works out to about 1 gram per pound of lean mass (assuming average body fat.) So... His article was a nice long winded blabber about semantics?
  • SpecialSundae
    SpecialSundae Posts: 795 Member
    Protein shakes are a very efficient way to supplement your protein intake. Plus they can be really tasty treats post-workout.