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This Site Is NOT A Dr.- Rant.....

Scorpiomom222
Scorpiomom222 Posts: 1,462 Member
edited September 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
I know people are on here, looking for support, but seriously, if something doesn't feel right, ie. you're fainting or experiencing vertigo, or something else that you experience that hurts or makes you not able to do an activity. CALL YOUR DOCTOR!!!! Or have someone drive you there. I love offering support to people on here, but don't treat the site like it's a walk in clinic or the ER. If you are hurt or fainting, etc talk to a dr, honestly. I don't dislike anyone that does this, it's just disheartening to see that people have no confidence in a medical staff that they consult several thousand complete strangers to see if they have a problem, which they must or they wouldn't be asking. Like I said, I support you, but see a dr. if something isn't right. PLEASE!!!!!!
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  • Ely82010
    Ely82010 Posts: 1,998 Member
    Right on!
  • I agree!
  • MissAnjy
    MissAnjy Posts: 2,480 Member
    i agree. I think a lot of people just want a quick answer, but we're not Dr.s, therefore, it's probably a wrong answer. It also doesn't help to look it up on the internet. Never self-diagnose! A headache could be just a headache, or from stress, or from cancer (according to the web). It's much safter to go to a doctor than to try to self diagnose or ask others. I agree, we're not healthcare professionals. It may be "more convenient" to sit at home and ask questions, but it's not effective.

    100% agree. Please if you're experiencing problems such as she's mentioned, go to a DR.
  • hpsnickers1
    hpsnickers1 Posts: 2,783 Member
    I agree 100%!!

    And yes, researching the internet can become overkill. One symptom can be a thousand different issues.
  • Scorpiomom222
    Scorpiomom222 Posts: 1,462 Member
    i agree. I think a lot of people just want a quick answer, but we're not Dr.s, therefore, it's probably a wrong answer. It also doesn't help to look it up on the internet. Never self-diagnose! A headache could be just a headache, or from stress, or from cancer (according to the web). It's much safter to go to a doctor than to try to self diagnose or ask others. I agree, we're not healthcare professionals. It may be "more convenient" to sit at home and ask questions, but it's not effective.

    100% agree. Please if you're experiencing problems such as she's mentioned, go to a DR.

    I know from experience that looking it up on the internet is SOOO wrong to do. I have scared the *kitten* out of myself. Even if a person doesn't have the money to see a dr, alot of clinics will take payments in manageable increments. Most of the time, they don't care how much they're getting as long as they are getting something.
  • DrBorkBork
    DrBorkBork Posts: 4,099 Member
    Yeah, what y'all said!

    I love my doctors. They are one of the reasons why my journey has been so successful. The good ones DO care, and DO want to help you and DO want to see you healthy!
  • Scorpiomom222
    Scorpiomom222 Posts: 1,462 Member
    Yeah, what y'all said!

    I love my doctors. They are one of the reasons why my journey has been so successful. The good ones DO care, and DO want to help you and DO want to see you healthy!

    Are you a dr? Just asking cuz of your screen name. lol
  • Mhaney
    Mhaney Posts: 467 Member
    I understand why some people do it.. I mean, if you are having issues/symptoms, then some one else must have as well. I see no problem with asking for personal experience and opinions. I have done it myself, but I also talk to a doctor if I think I need to. If some one uses a forum to self diagnose without a doctor, then it becomes a problem.
  • DrBorkBork
    DrBorkBork Posts: 4,099 Member
    Yeah, what y'all said!

    I love my doctors. They are one of the reasons why my journey has been so successful. The good ones DO care, and DO want to help you and DO want to see you healthy!

    Are you a dr? Just asking cuz of your screen name. lol

    No. My handle comes from my love of the Swedish Chef muppet (he says Bork a lot), and when I was in high school I wanted to pursue a PhD, but I lack the capacity for schooling, lol
  • MisdemeanorM
    MisdemeanorM Posts: 3,493 Member
    I do agree, but for me (and many others), if I step foot into an ER it's at minimum $1500, most likely more depending on what they want to test and do. I don't have that kind of dough, or insurance, and providing I ever will get insurance, I can't really risk having anything on my preexisting conditions. I always ask around to see if something is "normal" before going to any Dr. Haven't been to one in the last 10 yrs other than to have my son. My one ER trip ever ($2k) could have easily been skipped if i had asked around a little first.
  • Scorpiomom222
    Scorpiomom222 Posts: 1,462 Member
    Yeah, what y'all said!

    I love my doctors. They are one of the reasons why my journey has been so successful. The good ones DO care, and DO want to help you and DO want to see you healthy!

    Are you a dr? Just asking cuz of your screen name. lol

    No. My handle comes from my love of the Swedish Chef muppet (he says Bork a lot), and when I was in high school I wanted to pursue a PhD, but I lack the capacity for schooling, lol

    Ah! I see. lol that's epic.
  • Scorpiomom222
    Scorpiomom222 Posts: 1,462 Member
    I do agree, but for me (and many others), if I step foot into an ER it's at minimum $1500, most likely more depending on what they want to test and do. I don't have that kind of dough, or insurance, and providing I ever will get insurance, I can't really risk having anything on my preexisting conditions. I always ask around to see if something is "normal" before going to any Dr. Haven't been to one in the last 10 yrs other than to have my son. My one ER trip ever ($2k) could have easily been skipped if i had asked around a little first.

    I'm just saying, something major. If I were fainting and ended up hurting myself, you'd bet I'd find my way to a walk in clinic ASAP.
  • MisdemeanorM
    MisdemeanorM Posts: 3,493 Member
    I do agree, but for me (and many others), if I step foot into an ER it's at minimum $1500, most likely more depending on what they want to test and do. I don't have that kind of dough, or insurance, and providing I ever will get insurance, I can't really risk having anything on my preexisting conditions. I always ask around to see if something is "normal" before going to any Dr. Haven't been to one in the last 10 yrs other than to have my son. My one ER trip ever ($2k) could have easily been skipped if i had asked around a little first.

    I'm just saying, something major. If I were fainting and ended up hurting myself, you'd bet I'd find my way to a walk in clinic ASAP.

    Mine was a fainting / injury incident. It ended up being a $2,000 pregnancy test. I'm just sayin'...
  • AlannaPie
    AlannaPie Posts: 349 Member
    I scare myself regularly with internet searches!!!
  • FunkBunny
    FunkBunny Posts: 417 Member
    Everyone here has great points! But you also have to take into account the people who just want tons of replies about themselves...they want the attention, why get the attention of ONE doctor when you can get the attention of a MASS audience?
  • TropicalKitty
    TropicalKitty Posts: 2,298 Member
    I do agree, but for me (and many others), if I step foot into an ER it's at minimum $1500, most likely more depending on what they want to test and do. I don't have that kind of dough, or insurance, and providing I ever will get insurance, I can't really risk having anything on my preexisting conditions. I always ask around to see if something is "normal" before going to any Dr. Haven't been to one in the last 10 yrs other than to have my son. My one ER trip ever ($2k) could have easily been skipped if i had asked around a little first.

    I'm just saying, something major. If I were fainting and ended up hurting myself, you'd bet I'd find my way to a walk in clinic ASAP.

    Not everything is an ER visit. I think people can be very confused as to what affordable health services are available in this country. I have big issue with people who use the ER for primary care type situations. I'm glad, OP, you've mentioned clinic, because, as the person who you quoted, too many assume that immediate medical care must be equated with the emergency room when that just isn't the case.

    And I agree with you on the main point of don't use forums for diagnoses. It is nice, though, to see if you are going through something normal after a new activity.
  • brittlynne3579
    brittlynne3579 Posts: 217 Member
    Yeah, I see some pretty scary stuff on here sometimes. I always worry, especially when we aren't friends and I don't know the follow up!
  • Nightdust
    Nightdust Posts: 171 Member
    I don't see the trouble in asking around for advice or suggestions before going to a doctor as long as the person doing the search have the common sense to realize we're not specially trained. I don't think it's so much of wanting attention as it to wondering if someone else is or has experienced the same thing or something similar. If the problem risks your life or someone else then definitely go to the hospital or a certified doctor. On the other hand, if for example, you are experiencing cramps in your side every time you run then I think it wouldn't hurt to ask others. More often than not, other people have been there at some time in their life and can explain what they had to do to fix the problem.
  • lloydrt
    lloydrt Posts: 1,121 Member
    awesome post , Iwanna............youre in the right field for sharing compasion and care.........I hope you eventually find your goal........Lloyd
  • Delicate
    Delicate Posts: 625 Member
    I do agree but drs dont know everything (not dissing them but they are ppl too! my first dr never heard of pcos!)

    and if it wasnt for sites I wouldnt of discovered pcos which I have, forums can put you on the right direction but its always better to see a specialist (2 years battling against a battle axe of a dr to refer me to a specialist to begin with until i broke down and cried infront of him)
  • Scorpiomom222
    Scorpiomom222 Posts: 1,462 Member
    Thanks, Lloyd. And while I agree some people want to see replies and attention, I don't think that some grasp how serious something like that can be. And you don't have to go to the ER for an issue, running up a $2000 bill. I am also talking about something possibly life threatening. I believe I have already named a few examples.
  • Scorpiomom222
    Scorpiomom222 Posts: 1,462 Member
    I do agree but drs dont know everything (not dissing them but they are ppl too! my first dr never heard of pcos!)

    and if it wasnt for sites I wouldnt of discovered pcos which I have, forums can put you on the right direction but its always better to see a specialist (2 years battling against a battle axe of a dr to refer me to a specialist to begin with until i broke down and cried infront of him)

    Now THAT is quite scary!!! Not knowing what PCOS is? When was this? Just recently?
  • Delicate
    Delicate Posts: 625 Member
    Diagnosed just before i turned 16 and was fighting fainting etc since age 12, so just over 8 years ago. He was really old dr prob thought i should go into the crazy ward beside the gyna ward!
  • Scorpiomom222
    Scorpiomom222 Posts: 1,462 Member
    What a jerk! I don't think I could see an older doctor, because alot of them can get away with not staying up to date. 8 years isn't too terribly long ago, so honestly, he had no excuse not knowing what that was.
  • MisdemeanorM
    MisdemeanorM Posts: 3,493 Member
    I do agree, but for me (and many others), if I step foot into an ER it's at minimum $1500, most likely more depending on what they want to test and do. I don't have that kind of dough, or insurance, and providing I ever will get insurance, I can't really risk having anything on my preexisting conditions. I always ask around to see if something is "normal" before going to any Dr. Haven't been to one in the last 10 yrs other than to have my son. My one ER trip ever ($2k) could have easily been skipped if i had asked around a little first.

    I'm just saying, something major. If I were fainting and ended up hurting myself, you'd bet I'd find my way to a walk in clinic ASAP.

    Not everything is an ER visit. I think people can be very confused as to what affordable health services are available in this country. I have big issue with people who use the ER for primary care type situations. I'm glad, OP, you've mentioned clinic, because, as the person who you quoted, too many assume that immediate medical care must be equated with the emergency room when that just isn't the case.

    And I agree with you on the main point of don't use forums for diagnoses. It is nice, though, to see if you are going through something normal after a new activity.

    Providing that a clinic is open when your emergency hits (try 2am). We have one walk in clinic and it's open only regular business hours. It's also several hundred dollars to walk in the door. My primary care doctor, (if I still had one, I don't go because of this), is $300 just for the appointment, and then anything they do on top of that. I just don't go to any doctors, considering that i don't even have $50 for the Minute Clinic, and they don't treat anything other than shots and ear aches anyway... definitely not anything emergency or walk in that required testing to determine what it is. A broken bone, or a severe sprain (I would likely treat a sprain at home anyway), yeah, I could pull off a clinic if I hurt it during business hours because you have little choice, but a headache or some dizzyness - you can't get in and out in less than $500 for something like that - walk in clinic, er or not. My hubby had disentary a couple years ago (yeah, people still get that! I know really!?!?) and we went to the community walk in clinic. It was $1500! I have been once to the sliding scale clinic for the uninsured, but they also only do basic stuff, no xrays, emergencies, diagnostics, etc. Just sayin' :smile:
  • kennedar
    kennedar Posts: 306 Member
    I do agree but drs dont know everything (not dissing them but they are ppl too! my first dr never heard of pcos!)

    and if it wasnt for sites I wouldnt of discovered pcos which I have, forums can put you on the right direction but its always better to see a specialist (2 years battling against a battle axe of a dr to refer me to a specialist to begin with until i broke down and cried infront of him)

    Now THAT is quite scary!!! Not knowing what PCOS is? When was this? Just recently?

    My dr was the same way!! I went to her with proof of a luteal phase defect and asked to have my hormones tested and be tested for PCOS and was told that neither could cause infertility! I rolled my eyes and asked for a referrel to a specialist which she thankfully did! Its amazing how un-educated some drs really are!
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
    I do agree, but for me (and many others), if I step foot into an ER it's at minimum $1500, most likely more depending on what they want to test and do. I don't have that kind of dough, or insurance, and providing I ever will get insurance, I can't really risk having anything on my preexisting conditions. I always ask around to see if something is "normal" before going to any Dr. Haven't been to one in the last 10 yrs other than to have my son. My one ER trip ever ($2k) could have easily been skipped if i had asked around a little first.

    I'm just saying, something major. If I were fainting and ended up hurting myself, you'd bet I'd find my way to a walk in clinic ASAP.

    Mine was a fainting / injury incident. It ended up being a $2,000 pregnancy test. I'm just sayin'...

    I am sorry but this post has more merit than some other ones on here. I love working out, I love eating healthy, but sometimes, this site is full of too much conflicting and harmful info. If someone is ill, saying they should go to a doctor is probably the most sound advice.
  • kennedar
    kennedar Posts: 306 Member
    I do agree, but for me (and many others), if I step foot into an ER it's at minimum $1500, most likely more depending on what they want to test and do. I don't have that kind of dough, or insurance, and providing I ever will get insurance, I can't really risk having anything on my preexisting conditions. I always ask around to see if something is "normal" before going to any Dr. Haven't been to one in the last 10 yrs other than to have my son. My one ER trip ever ($2k) could have easily been skipped if i had asked around a little first.

    I'm just saying, something major. If I were fainting and ended up hurting myself, you'd bet I'd find my way to a walk in clinic ASAP.

    Not everything is an ER visit. I think people can be very confused as to what affordable health services are available in this country. I have big issue with people who use the ER for primary care type situations. I'm glad, OP, you've mentioned clinic, because, as the person who you quoted, too many assume that immediate medical care must be equated with the emergency room when that just isn't the case.

    And I agree with you on the main point of don't use forums for diagnoses. It is nice, though, to see if you are going through something normal after a new activity.

    Providing that a clinic is open when your emergency hits (try 2am). We have one walk in clinic and it's open only regular business hours. It's also several hundred dollars to walk in the door. My primary care doctor, (if I still had one, I don't go because of this), is $300 just for the appointment, and then anything they do on top of that. I just don't go to any doctors, considering that i don't even have $50 for the Minute Clinic, and they don't treat anything other than shots and ear aches anyway... definitely not anything emergency or walk in that required testing to determine what it is. A broken bone, or a severe sprain (I would likely treat a sprain at home anyway), yeah, I could pull off a clinic if I hurt it during business hours because you have little choice, but a headache or some dizzyness - you can't get in and out in less than $500 for something like that - walk in clinic, er or not. My hubby had disentary a couple years ago (yeah, people still get that! I know really!?!?) and we went to the community walk in clinic. It was $1500! I have been once to the sliding scale clinic for the uninsured, but they also only do basic stuff, no xrays, emergencies, diagnostics, etc. Just sayin' :smile:

    I know this is going to come out the completely wrong way, and I really do not mean it to, but are you planning on getting some form of insurance? I live in Canada, so excuse me for my ignorance of the American medical system, but kids are covered automatically right? With one little boy and another on the way, I would be worried about the expense if something happened to them!

    I only ask out of concern, things can happen unexpectadly, esp to a child. Heck my totally healthy (seriously, she is in better shape than I am) 45 year old mom has been hospitalized twice in the last 2 months - once with a concussion which became badly infected and again this weekend when she slipped a disk on a treadmill and started to get numbness in her legs (dad was worried she was having a heart attack). We were just commenting today that if we were American the co-pays alone for all the drs visits she has had (including her physical and such 2 weeks ago) would be astronomical!
  • MisdemeanorM
    MisdemeanorM Posts: 3,493 Member
    I know this is going to come out the completely wrong way, and I really do not mean it to, but are you planning on getting some form of insurance? I live in Canada, so excuse me for my ignorance of the American medical system, but kids are covered automatically right? With one little boy and another on the way, I would be worried about the expense if something happened to them!

    I only ask out of concern, things can happen unexpectadly, esp to a child. Heck my totally healthy (seriously, she is in better shape than I am) 45 year old mom has been hospitalized twice in the last 2 months - once with a concussion which became badly infected and again this weekend when she slipped a disk on a treadmill and started to get numbness in her legs (dad was worried she was having a heart attack). We were just commenting today that if we were American the co-pays alone for all the drs visits she has had (including her physical and such 2 weeks ago) would be astronomical!

    Kids are covered automatically, but you still have to pay a premium for them, and it's several hundred dollars a month when you add them onto your existing plan. My son is covered on state care and this one will be for one year. Then we have to buy a middle plan for them - state subsidized but not free. But no, no intention of getting any for myself or my husband. Neither of our jobs offer it and anything comprehensive starts around $350 a month which is WAY out of our budget. The only thing we have ever had in the past is major medical (read, $5,000 or higher deductible) and expired every 6 months and you have to move to a new company. It's still about $150 a month for the two of us an only covers major trauma or surgery basically. If you get sick and your treatment lasts more than 6 months your insurance expires. I suppose you could then get other insurance since they have to cover preexisting if you switch from another, but it'd still be like $400 a month and they drop you if you don't pay it. At that point it would be worth it to start selling things to try to keep it, but at this point it's 10% of our income if we choose to get decent insurance and just not doable plus still having grocery and rent money. It's a two-fold bad situation. Health insurance is too expensive (rather unobtainable/ unaffordable if you can't get it through work), and medical treatment is too expensive. (really, it costs $350 EXTRA because your visit to the ER was before 6am? Just a "surcharge" to the treating physician simply based on the time of day!) :smile: My rant in response to this rant :smile:
  • Scorpiomom222
    Scorpiomom222 Posts: 1,462 Member
    I do agree, but for me (and many others), if I step foot into an ER it's at minimum $1500, most likely more depending on what they want to test and do. I don't have that kind of dough, or insurance, and providing I ever will get insurance, I can't really risk having anything on my preexisting conditions. I always ask around to see if something is "normal" before going to any Dr. Haven't been to one in the last 10 yrs other than to have my son. My one ER trip ever ($2k) could have easily been skipped if i had asked around a little first.

    I'm just saying, something major. If I were fainting and ended up hurting myself, you'd bet I'd find my way to a walk in clinic ASAP.

    Not everything is an ER visit. I think people can be very confused as to what affordable health services are available in this country. I have big issue with people who use the ER for primary care type situations. I'm glad, OP, you've mentioned clinic, because, as the person who you quoted, too many assume that immediate medical care must be equated with the emergency room when that just isn't the case.

    And I agree with you on the main point of don't use forums for diagnoses. It is nice, though, to see if you are going through something normal after a new activity.

    Providing that a clinic is open when your emergency hits (try 2am). We have one walk in clinic and it's open only regular business hours. It's also several hundred dollars to walk in the door. My primary care doctor, (if I still had one, I don't go because of this), is $300 just for the appointment, and then anything they do on top of that. I just don't go to any doctors, considering that i don't even have $50 for the Minute Clinic, and they don't treat anything other than shots and ear aches anyway... definitely not anything emergency or walk in that required testing to determine what it is. A broken bone, or a severe sprain (I would likely treat a sprain at home anyway), yeah, I could pull off a clinic if I hurt it during business hours because you have little choice, but a headache or some dizzyness - you can't get in and out in less than $500 for something like that - walk in clinic, er or not. My hubby had disentary a couple years ago (yeah, people still get that! I know really!?!?) and we went to the community walk in clinic. It was $1500! I have been once to the sliding scale clinic for the uninsured, but they also only do basic stuff, no xrays, emergencies, diagnostics, etc. Just sayin' :smile:

    I know this is going to come out the completely wrong way, and I really do not mean it to, but are you planning on getting some form of insurance? I live in Canada, so excuse me for my ignorance of the American medical system, but kids are covered automatically right? With one little boy and another on the way, I would be worried about the expense if something happened to them!

    I only ask out of concern, things can happen unexpectadly, esp to a child. Heck my totally healthy (seriously, she is in better shape than I am) 45 year old mom has been hospitalized twice in the last 2 months - once with a concussion which became badly infected and again this weekend when she slipped a disk on a treadmill and started to get numbness in her legs (dad was worried she was having a heart attack). We were just commenting today that if we were American the co-pays alone for all the drs visits she has had (including her physical and such 2 weeks ago) would be astronomical!

    No, kids are not automatically covered and many children are denied any sort of benefits. Especially the ones that need something the most. (mentally challenged, physically challenged) It's really sad, and I hate the American government for that. HATE it!!!
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