Pros and Cons of Marathon Training
TheGymGypsy
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I just finished my first half marathon with relative ease, and I really really enjoyed it. I am toying with possibly training for a full marathon which would be in December.
I'm really nervous about committing to running 30+ miles every week, injury, etc. Any marathoners who could share their experience with me would be greatly appreciated!
I'm really nervous about committing to running 30+ miles every week, injury, etc. Any marathoners who could share their experience with me would be greatly appreciated!
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I've run 7 fulls. There is a big jump in the length of your training runs. So much more time committment. Like you will be doing 18, 20, and 22 mile long runs for training.
I've had no injuries due to running. But have had injuries that have stopped my running. Training for a full has to be a committment to that lifestyle. But the reward and satisfaction of personal achievement is great.0 -
Increase your mileage very slowly - 10% every two weeks. Make sure your shoes are in good condition. Marathoning takes a LOT of running (think 20 milers every two weekends). That's a lot of hours. If you are up for it, go for it. It will always be an accomplishment you can take pride in.0
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I've lost count of the number of marathons, so obviously I love doing them, but here's my take (with a note that I am biased towards doing them)
It is a huge commitment, and not one you can half-*kitten*. Well, you can, but you will have a miserable experience race day if you do. The first time through training you will have all kinds of doubts as to whether or not you can even do it, plus chances are, you will only run up to 20 miles in training, and that last 10k will be a big question mark for you on race day. Don't worry about it, if you can run 20 miles, you can run 26.2. There is a social life restriction. No more Saturday nights out. It is incredibly difficult to lose weight while training, because you become a ravenous hunger monster.
However, its a great experience. Not only the race, but the 18 weeks of training you go through. It teaches you a lot about yourself, and what kind of discipline you have. I tend to stop weight training (but not strength training - I just back off to body weight) during high mileage training. I enjoy the peace of a long run and the way my body hums through the day after a morning interval workout (even though mile repeats make me want to barf).
If you want to do it, I say do it. Its not like you're committing to running them forever. If you don't like it, you don't have to do another one.0 -
What program did you use to train for your half and would you recommend it?0
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I just finished my first half marathon with relative ease, and I really really enjoyed it. I am toying with possibly training for a full marathon which would be in December.
I'm really nervous about committing to running 30+ miles every week, injury, etc. Any marathoners who could share their experience with me would be greatly appreciated!
Just so you are aware 30+ miles a week is very low. I don't believe the 60-70 mile weeks we used to do are necessary but I wouldn't run a marathon without averaging 40+ and be closer to 50 for many of them. People who have run marathons will tell you otherwise, but I suspect those people are merely looking to finish the race rather than get a faster time.
As far as your question goes, yes, it is a big sacrifice. Training 18 weeks and committing to long runs is not easy and is not for everyone. It is very tough on your body, and also tough on the people who you live with. You have to change your focus on everything and also face the facts that is may impact your work life as well. That's just the way it is.0 -
What program did you use to train for your half and would you recommend it?
I didn't use a training plan, but I have heard great things about Hal Higdon's novice half marathon training program.0 -
I just finished my first half marathon with relative ease, and I really really enjoyed it. I am toying with possibly training for a full marathon which would be in December.
I'm really nervous about committing to running 30+ miles every week, injury, etc. Any marathoners who could share their experience with me would be greatly appreciated!
Just so you are aware 30+ miles a week is very low. I don't believe the 60-70 mile weeks we used to do are necessary but I wouldn't run a marathon without averaging 40+ and be closer to 50 for many of them. People who have run marathons will tell you otherwise, but I suspect those people are merely looking to finish the race rather than get a faster time.
Just wanted to throw in that my normal marathon training plan has me topping out at 55 miles/week, and starting around 35. When I first started, I guess I averaged closer to 40. And yes, there is a difference between training to finish and training to race.0 -
I just finished my first half marathon with relative ease, and I really really enjoyed it. I am toying with possibly training for a full marathon which would be in December.
I'm really nervous about committing to running 30+ miles every week, injury, etc. Any marathoners who could share their experience with me would be greatly appreciated!
I said the exact same thing last year, right around this time, and my September FM was a f***ing disaster. I chose to wait, run, wait, run, and wait some more and will be reattempting at the end of this September, and I still think that's too soon, but I'll be clocking 50+ MPW at least.
If you want a challenge to hold you over, try running one to the point where you don't say it was "relatively easy." Build your base up slowly and injury free. No need to rush into an FM. They suck for a reason.0 -
I just finished my first half marathon with relative ease, and I really really enjoyed it. I am toying with possibly training for a full marathon which would be in December.
I'm really nervous about committing to running 30+ miles every week, injury, etc. Any marathoners who could share their experience with me would be greatly appreciated!
Just so you are aware 30+ miles a week is very low. I don't believe the 60-70 mile weeks we used to do are necessary but I wouldn't run a marathon without averaging 40+ and be closer to 50 for many of them. People who have run marathons will tell you otherwise, but I suspect those people are merely looking to finish the race rather than get a faster time.
Just wanted to throw in that my normal marathon training plan has me topping out at 55 miles/week, and starting around 35. When I first started, I guess I averaged closer to 40. And yes, there is a difference between training to finish and training to race.
I only used the 30+ figure because that is the most I have run up until now. I'm thinking that maybe I should stick to the half marathon distance. I mean finishing a full would be a huge accomplishment, but I can always do it later on in life. Maybe I should work on improving my half time for now, and think about full distance later.0 -
I just finished my first half marathon with relative ease, and I really really enjoyed it. I am toying with possibly training for a full marathon which would be in December.
I'm really nervous about committing to running 30+ miles every week, injury, etc. Any marathoners who could share their experience with me would be greatly appreciated!
Just so you are aware 30+ miles a week is very low. I don't believe the 60-70 mile weeks we used to do are necessary but I wouldn't run a marathon without averaging 40+ and be closer to 50 for many of them. People who have run marathons will tell you otherwise, but I suspect those people are merely looking to finish the race rather than get a faster time.
As far as your question goes, yes, it is a big sacrifice. Training 18 weeks and committing to long runs is not easy and is not for everyone. It is very tough on your body, and also tough on the people who you live with. You have to change your focus on everything and also face the facts that is may impact your work life as well. That's just the way it is.
Yep. This.0 -
I just finished my first half marathon with relative ease, and I really really enjoyed it. I am toying with possibly training for a full marathon which would be in December.
I'm really nervous about committing to running 30+ miles every week, injury, etc. Any marathoners who could share their experience with me would be greatly appreciated!
Just so you are aware 30+ miles a week is very low. I don't believe the 60-70 mile weeks we used to do are necessary but I wouldn't run a marathon without averaging 40+ and be closer to 50 for many of them. People who have run marathons will tell you otherwise, but I suspect those people are merely looking to finish the race rather than get a faster time.
Just wanted to throw in that my normal marathon training plan has me topping out at 55 miles/week, and starting around 35. When I first started, I guess I averaged closer to 40. And yes, there is a difference between training to finish and training to race.
I only used the 30+ figure because that is the most I have run up until now. I'm thinking that maybe I should stick to the half marathon distance. I mean finishing a full would be a huge accomplishment, but I can always do it later on in life. Maybe I should work on improving my half time for now, and think about full distance later.
Amen. There will always be a marathon to race, and 99.9% are held annually - only things that change are the medals, shirts, and courses.0 -
I've ran 2 marathons, and probably won't do anymore. Some good advice already given, here's mine
If you are someplace really warm, be mindful of having to train over the summer in very hot temps.
Marathon training (if done properly) will take over your life.
there are few things that I've done that compare to the feeling of crossing the finish line at a marathon
Try to maintain as high a weekly miles average as you can with out injuring yourself. Build smartly and back off a week occasionally. I think you will be much more prepared topping out closer to 50 MPW peak with an average of 40 MPW than a 40 peak and 30 average.
I have a tendency to say go for it, since you have a noce long time out ahead of you, but do know that at taimes you question your sanity, your resolve and on occasion you will hate having to step out the door and do that day's run.0 -
What program did you use to train for your half and would you recommend it?
I didn't use a training plan, but I have heard great things about Hal Higdon's novice half marathon training program.
Thank you! I will check it out0 -
I just finished my first half marathon with relative ease, and I really really enjoyed it. I am toying with possibly training for a full marathon which would be in December.
I'm really nervous about committing to running 30+ miles every week, injury, etc. Any marathoners who could share their experience with me would be greatly appreciated!
I said the exact same thing last year, right around this time, and my September FM was a f***ing disaster. I chose to wait, run, wait, run, and wait some more and will be reattempting at the end of this September, and I still think that's too soon, but I'll be clocking 50+ MPW at least.
If you want a challenge to hold you over, try running one to the point where you don't say it was "relatively easy." Build your base up slowly and injury free. No need to rush into an FM. They suck for a reason.
I'm with Doug. Ran my first full last October and it practically killed me. Yet, two weeks later I went out and came in 3rd place at a 5K, so I guess it was okay. Marathon training is a HUGE commitment, as others have said. If you have 4 hours every Sunday to go for a run, then more power to you. Trying to do that with a 3-year-old? Not so much.
Re: training plans--Hal Higdon is definitely the man, and if I would have been able to follow the plan the last 6 weeks before my race, I'm sure things would have gone a lot better than they did.0 -
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I've run 3 halfs and only one full. (That was plenty )
It's a committment to train. It's so much easier if you have a running partner that's about the same pace/level of fitness as you. I couldn't have gotten through some of those long runs if I were by myself. So a partner, or a running group, or a friend willing you follow you on a bike and hold your food and water will be extremely helpful.
I never missed one training run, because I knew that if I missed one, I would make excuses to skip again.
If you feel like this is your year, go for it. If you need more time, wait until next year. There are so many and you want your experience to be a good one!0 -
The secret to remaining injury free are as follows:
- Build up slowly. If an 18 week plan seems like too much, it just might be. Take 36 or 42 or even 52 weeks.
- Consistent training whether it is 3, 4. 5 or 6 days a week. Base runes, long runs and tempo runs all have different purposes.
- Age matters. Easier for younger folks than older folks. The older you are the more time you should take.
- Properly fitted running shoes are always a must.
- Strength, stretching and rest days. No formula but most good runners will have all three.
- 30 miles per week is a minimum. I do more 180-200 per month.
At age 55 I personally think anyone can run a marathon that can run a 5K. Instead of how many miles to get to your goal, begin to think in terms of hours per week. To be safe, it's probably about 10-12 or so. Your longest runs could take from 3 to 5 hours. Training for a marathon to finish it, even at a novice pace is a lot of time. If you have the time, you'll do fine.
Just remember as the miles go on, you'll face new problems with chaffing, fueling and the enormity of the mental game doing distance you have never done before.
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The best advice I ever received before beginning to prepare for a marathon was that if you're not fully invested and willing to put in the hours and miles, stick to the half-marathons. I tend to finish my half-marathon races somewhere between 1:40 and 1:55. I figured that I would try my first full marathon about a year ago and committed to the training. I have to say that I found out the hard way that a full marathon is no joke! I have a newly found level of respect for anybody that can run the entire full marathon without having to walk at all.
Best of luck to you!0 -
Hey, Hannah...noticed that you are here in Dallas so I thought I would mention Run On as a training program for you. I've been with them since 2010 and have run 10+ half-marathons and 2 fulls with a 3rd planned this October. I highly recommend them as they have a variety of pace groups to train in from 8:30 min/miles to run/walk (where I am). Not being a typical runner (I weighed 278 when I started and am now down to my maintence weight of 248-ish), their program got me through both marathons at a pace I could handle and injury-free as well.
Just let me know if interested and I will post some more info for you. Best of luck!!!0 -
I just finished my first half marathon with relative ease, and I really really enjoyed it. I am toying with possibly training for a full marathon which would be in December.
I'm really nervous about committing to running 30+ miles every week, injury, etc. Any marathoners who could share their experience with me would be greatly appreciated!
Just so you are aware 30+ miles a week is very low. I don't believe the 60-70 mile weeks we used to do are necessary but I wouldn't run a marathon without averaging 40+ and be closer to 50 for many of them. People who have run marathons will tell you otherwise, but I suspect those people are merely looking to finish the race rather than get a faster time.
Just wanted to throw in that my normal marathon training plan has me topping out at 55 miles/week, and starting around 35. When I first started, I guess I averaged closer to 40. And yes, there is a difference between training to finish and training to race.
I'm going to have to agree with ThickMcRunFast here and disagree on a 30+ week being low. DISCLAIMER: I run marathons to finish, not for time, so absolutely agree that that is a factor. However, I have trained for and completed 7 marathon or longer distance races (one being a 50K trail run and one being a full IronMan triathlon) using Hal Higdon's online marathon guides and did so injury-free. Now, full-disclosure: my best-ever marathon time was a 4:06 so take this all with a grain of salt. The #1 best advice I give myself and offer to anyone who wants it is that what your body is telling you is more important than what your ego is telling you it needs.
When I need to rest, I rest. But I also push myself because, let's face it, marathons aren't exactly a walk in the park. Unless you are walking a marathon and it happens to go through a park but I am getting entirely off track.0 -
The three most important pieces of advice are:
1. Join a running group. Folks in a running group will have great advice and will always be willing to help out when you have questions.
2. Join a running group. There is always someone who's just a little bit better than you to inspire you and motivate you to perform your best.
3. Join a running group. During long runs, they will keep you company, inspire you, and make the time fly by. They will become your best friends.
But beware, if you join a running group, they will probably talk you into running another marathon...and another, and another, and another!0 -
The three most important pieces of advice are:
1. Join a running group. Folks in a running group will have great advice and will always be willing to help out when you have questions.
2. Join a running group. There is always someone who's just a little bit better than you to inspire you and motivate you to perform your best.
3. Join a running group. During long runs, they will keep you company, inspire you, and make the time fly by. They will become your best friends.
But beware, if you join a running group, they will probably talk you into running another marathon...and another, and another, and another!
I concur. My group took a little while to get warmed up to, but...
I met a friend who is similar speed as me and we've been pushing and PR'ing each other
I never had anyone cheer for me during a race until yesterday thanks to my group
Except for tapers, I haven't missed any of my long runs since joining my group0 -
I am in the final week of training (taper) for my marathon this Sunday and I am scared ****less. I will reiterate that those last 6.2 miles are what scare me. I didn't see them during training (and was told I didn't need them) and so they scare me. I did my 16 and 18 milers on a treadmill b/c it was bitterly cold outside. I am running my marathon in Vibrams so I am no help with shoes - however, I have had no running injuries in my vibrams (ran 10 half marathons previously, 4 of them in this same exact pair of vibrams - YAY for not needing to replace running shoes every other week!!).
Did I mention I'm scared? I'm also so ready to be done that I don't even want to run it. Training for a marathon is a LOT of running. It is a LOT of time. And if you have kids (I have a 7 year old and a 3 year old) it is a lot of time for someone else to commit as well (to babysit the kidlets).
I am considering a second marathon come this fall - but it's only an inkling right now. To be honest, I wish Sunday's run was only a half... A half I can do with no issues... a full? A full is scary.
Oh, and I didn't have a running partner. Every single one of my miles was done solo. So while a running partner (or bike partner) would have been superb, it's not necessary.
PS my body is capable - I just have to convince my mind that we'll be fine.0 -
The primary Con is simply the time commitment. Just get used to saying "I can't, I'm running..." or some variation of it.
You will also start to doubt yourself toward the end of training. There will be bad runs and you'll wonder if you're not just kidding yourself, but if you put in the time and the training, you can and WILL do it!
The Pros are definitely getting to eat a crap-ton of food without really having to track, at least toward the last weeks of training. Also, your legs will look ah-mazing! And your friends will all think you're a bad-*kitten*, which you are.
Oh, another Con is that it's hard to go back to calorie restricting when you cut back on running, I got a pretty nasty URI a few months after mine, and so I was sidelined for several weeks, and was eating for comfort, and used to being able to eat it all...and I gained quite a bit of weight in a relatively short amount of time. I don't recommend that.
I've only run one. I've run LOADS of half-marathons, but just the one full, so far. I am hoping to be ready for another next spring.0 -
I am in the final week of training (taper) for my marathon this Sunday and I am scared ****less. I will reiterate that those last 6.2 miles are what scare me. I didn't see them during training (and was told I didn't need them) and so they scare me. I did my 16 and 18 milers on a treadmill b/c it was bitterly cold outside. I am running my marathon in Vibrams so I am no help with shoes - however, I have had no running injuries in my vibrams (ran 10 half marathons previously, 4 of them in this same exact pair of vibrams - YAY for not needing to replace running shoes every other week!!).
Did I mention I'm scared? I'm also so ready to be done that I don't even want to run it. Training for a marathon is a LOT of running. It is a LOT of time. And if you have kids (I have a 7 year old and a 3 year old) it is a lot of time for someone else to commit as well (to babysit the kidlets).
I am considering a second marathon come this fall - but it's only an inkling right now. To be honest, I wish Sunday's run was only a half... A half I can do with no issues... a full? A full is scary.
Oh, and I didn't have a running partner. Every single one of my miles was done solo. So while a running partner (or bike partner) would have been superb, it's not necessary.
PS my body is capable - I just have to convince my mind that we'll be fine.
Just wanted to say good luck!
The first marathon is oddly about trust...you have to trust that the training will work. In a way, training is just a formula. Want to run a marathon in "x" time? Apply "y" formula. Coaches and veterans know the formula works if you apply it correctly, but first timers just have to sort of blindly trust that the training won't let them down. Its totally normal to be freaked out. But crossing the finish line of my first marathon is something I will never, ever forget. Its up there in the top 5 all time greatest memories of my life.0 -
I am currently a 19 miler and a 20 miler away from my first marathon. I am using Hal Higdon Novice 2 program. I started training for one last summer and ended up injured. Feeling good this time around. The time commitment is huge. And I can't wait to not have to run X number of miles/day/week/month when this is over. That said, I will likely do it again. I am not a fast runner, so the long runs are a huge time commitment. It took me 3 hours 21 minutes to run my 18 miler yesterday. I am going to run this one to finish. The next one I will try to improve my time. Or maybe work on my half marathon pace for a while before running another. We shall see. Good luck!0
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Hi,
Ive done 6 full marathons.
If you can do a half, you can do a full. Its just a matter of more training (easier said than done). 18 / 20 milers are painfully dull, even my dog hates them but I would only do 20 miles twice in the run up to a marathon. Lets face it, you won't get 20 miles in and then think that you cant be bothered with the other 6!
If you are not over worried about the time you finish in, then train as well as you can and enjoy the journey. Make sure that your first marathon is a good one - popular, fun, an event. Mine was Amsterdam - very exciting, flat etc. Ive also done Loch Ness twice - not a first marathon to do!
Good luck. Its a very special experience.0 -
I'm training for my first full marathon using Hal Higdon's novice 2 program. Saturday was a 12-miler and it felt pretty good. The time commitment is huge. It's also a commitment for my boyfriend, as I am a full-time special needs caregiver and he steps in while I'm running. I actually look forward to the long runs, as I don't get a lot of alone time. I do look forward to crossing the finish line in September and choosing my next goal to work on.0
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I've lost count of the number of marathons, so obviously I love doing them, but here's my take (with a note that I am biased towards doing them)
It is a huge commitment, and not one you can half-*kitten*. Well, you can, but you will have a miserable experience race day if you do. The first time through training you will have all kinds of doubts as to whether or not you can even do it, plus chances are, you will only run up to 20 miles in training, and that last 10k will be a big question mark for you on race day. Don't worry about it, if you can run 20 miles, you can run 26.2. There is a social life restriction. No more Saturday nights out. It is incredibly difficult to lose weight while training, because you become a ravenous hunger monster.
However, its a great experience. Not only the race, but the 18 weeks of training you go through. It teaches you a lot about yourself, and what kind of discipline you have. I tend to stop weight training (but not strength training - I just back off to body weight) during high mileage training. I enjoy the peace of a long run and the way my body hums through the day after a morning interval workout (even though mile repeats make me want to barf).
If you want to do it, I say do it. Its not like you're committing to running them forever. If you don't like it, you don't have to do another one.
Although I have only run one marathon, I couldn't agree more with this post. I would only add, a half marathon and a marathon are TOTALLY different things. After doing a half, some people prefer to focus their energy on getting faster and slay the half marathon. A full marathon is not for everyone, although I do believe that anyone can and should do it if they want to. Just know what you are getting into and don't rush into it. There were 9 years between my first half marathon and my full marathon, and I will never claim that that time did not serve me well in my marathon training.0 -
I am in the final week of training (taper) for my marathon this Sunday and I am scared ****less. I will reiterate that those last 6.2 miles are what scare me. I didn't see them during training (and was told I didn't need them) and so they scare me. I did my 16 and 18 milers on a treadmill b/c it was bitterly cold outside. I am running my marathon in Vibrams so I am no help with shoes - however, I have had no running injuries in my vibrams (ran 10 half marathons previously, 4 of them in this same exact pair of vibrams - YAY for not needing to replace running shoes every other week!!).
Did I mention I'm scared? I'm also so ready to be done that I don't even want to run it. Training for a marathon is a LOT of running. It is a LOT of time. And if you have kids (I have a 7 year old and a 3 year old) it is a lot of time for someone else to commit as well (to babysit the kidlets).
I am considering a second marathon come this fall - but it's only an inkling right now. To be honest, I wish Sunday's run was only a half... A half I can do with no issues... a full? A full is scary.
Oh, and I didn't have a running partner. Every single one of my miles was done solo. So while a running partner (or bike partner) would have been superb, it's not necessary.
PS my body is capable - I just have to convince my mind that we'll be fine.
Just wanted to say "Good Luck"!! I am also my own worst enemy when it comes to running sometimes!
I was also debating making the jump to a marathon, so I decided to leave it up to fate and signed up for the Marine Corps Marathon lottery. I got in - so I will begin training for it pretty soon. It is a time commitment that I am up for. I also have a super supportive husband who won't mind the kiddos on my long runs. I am also just training to finish it.0
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