How hungry do you need to feel?

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  • fheppy
    fheppy Posts: 64 Member
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    Thank you all for reading my post and posting replies. It is very helpful and i feel i am being pushed in the good direction :smile:

    yes I need to be more strict from now on with the soda.
    I also will work on my diet in general and i am learning on improving it every day.

    I will also try to talk a doctor but its proving difficult with the NHS as these people are so ignorant. I won't give up though!
    Also, if anyone knows a good GP in London, or a good dietitian, please send me a message.
  • echofm1
    echofm1 Posts: 471 Member
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    So I didn't read the whole board, but I've gotten feelings kind of like what you described before, without the sweating. I'd be super shaky, kind of feeling like I'm ready to just collapse in a puddle and not move. I've had it happen both while dieting and not, and for me it actually seems to be related to not getting enough protein through my day. Since I started tracking I've definitely noticed my natural tendency is high carbs, low everything else. Then, as the day wears on or if I go a few hours without eating anything, I feel weak. For me it's a trigger for bingeing, because I need my blood sugar to go up and I need it to happen now. This has happened even though I've never tested positive for insulin issues.

    Looking at the last couple days in your diary, you have a similar problem to what I did. Try increasing your protein, decreasing your carbs. Since I've started actively trying to get more protein in my diet, I haven't had any issues with the weak and sick feeling. It was just my body crashing hard after a blood sugar spike, because I didn't have protein to keep it going.

    Also, like others said, talking to your doctor is always a good idea.

    P.S. Don't drink all your calories either. it's hard to give up the pop, but you can do it. I save room in my diet for 1 pop a day (after going from 3-4 cans a day), and as time has gone on I've gotten better at drinking water. Crystal Light (lemonade flavor in particular if you're a Mt. Dew drinker - the citrus fills a similar craving for me) has been a life saver in not drinking as much pop. Lately I've even managed to cut it out of some days entirely.
  • AZKristi
    AZKristi Posts: 1,801 Member
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    You are taking metformin, so clearly you have blood sugar issues, yet you are eating tons of carbs and drinking soda. My first guess is that you feel poorly because your diet is spiking your blood sugar, causing your body to produce a ton of insulin to compensate, which then rapidly depletes your blood glucose leading to low blood sugar.

    You may be able to lose weight by eating 1800 calories of garbage, but if you want to feel good and improve overall health, what you put in your body matters. Has your doctor referred you to a dietician for counseling? If not, I would request a consult with one if possible, or start reading on how to eat to control your blood sugar.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
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    This is why I log while cutting, because I can't tell from my hunger levels alone if I'm in the right sized deficit to meet my goals.
  • fheppy
    fheppy Posts: 64 Member
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    You are taking metformin, so clearly you have blood sugar issues, yet you are eating tons of carbs and drinking soda. My first guess is that you feel poorly because your diet is spiking your blood sugar, causing your body to produce a ton of insulin to compensate, which then rapidly depletes your blood glucose leading to low blood sugar.

    You may be able to lose weight by eating 1800 calories of garbage, but if you want to feel good and improve overall health, what you put in your body matters. Has your doctor referred you to a dietician for counseling? If not, I would request a consult with one if possible, or start reading on how to eat to control your blood sugar.

    I take Metformin because i have PCOS. If i don't take metformin, i never have periods on my own. Before it was prescribed, my ovaries were 5x bigger than normal ones, confirmed by ultrasound. Since i started taking it, ovaries shrank to normal size, also confirmed by u.s. I was told I need to take metformin for PCOS and not blood sugar but clearly it is related as one of the symptoms of PCOS is being insulin resistant.
    I agree, i still eat lots of garbage which i need to change on, starting to work on it :smile:
  • SecretAgent27
    SecretAgent27 Posts: 57 Member
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    I agree with "Don't Drink Your Calories". If you simply replace your liquid calories with food (same number of calories), you're going to feel more full. The same goes with junk food/snacks. Replace those calories meat and vegetables and you're going to be less hungry.

    When I started dieting, I cut out all the fast food, soda, and snacking. Stopped drinking any calories (no milk or orange juice). But in doing so, I didn't allow myself to become hungry. If it was late at night and I was hungry, I ate. I hadn't been tracking my calories but when I started, I realized that I was actually eating too LITTLE. I almost always have to figure out how to add healthy calories into my diet to avoid slowing down my metabolism (which I'd actually done). And it's pretty much all because I stopped the soda and snacks and things that don't do a very good job of making you feel full. That's the trade off.
  • BillRicks1
    BillRicks1 Posts: 473 Member
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    As others have said, please check with your Dr. first. That said, here's what I would want in your food log - WATER - you need approx. 122 ounces of water a day. Not that bad if you break it down hourly. About 8 an hour for a 16 hour day. PROTEIN - I calculate you need about 147 ounces of lean protein a day. This will help with the hunger pains. It will keep you feeling fuller longer than sugar or carbs. Spread this out over the day (5 or 6 smaller meals) and include some high protein snacks. Your estimated Resting Metabolic rate is 2032. Shoot for eating about 200 under that (~1800) for a gradual, sustained weight loss. Again, see your Dr. first and make sure they approve of any changes - small or large!

    Good luck!
  • Flab2fitfi
    Flab2fitfi Posts: 1,349 Member
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    I would make an appointment. Ignore the receptionist as they are not medically trained. Just book an appointment. I book them all the time and if its not urgent they never ask what it is for. Also your practice may have Nurse who specialises in weight loss so ask the doctor when you go.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    I do not know what to do i am afraid to feel that ill again. so how hungry is normal when dieting?

    I would appreciate any advice.

    There really isn't any reason to feel hungry except right before meal time. With insulin resistant (which is usually what is meant by "pre-diabetic") you should strive for low net carb diet. Net carbs are total carbs minus fiber. So, they higher the fiber content of carbs, the more you can eat. Try to avoid foods or meals high in sugar and low in protein and fiber. This prevents a sharp rise and fall in blood sugar.

    I agree that you really should discuss this with your doctor and perhaps ask for a referal to a nutritionist.

    The American Diabetes Association site might also be helpful for you. Even though you don't have diabetes, the diet suggestions work well for insulin resistance.

    http://www.diabetes.org/