Soy or Whey Protein ?

LaurenDanielle014
LaurenDanielle014 Posts: 88 Member
in Fitness and Exercise
So i have been doing alot of research and i really need to UP my protein since i am burning anywhere from 450 - 1200 calories a day (five-six times a week) and im not a huge meat eater...

I am using a Soy protein right now and I have been told that WHEY is best for what i am trying to achieve... I am reading alot of articles and they all seem to contradict each other... What do YOU recommend ?

also -- what is the deal with QUEST bars ?! I thought they were a great source of protein but now i am hearing they have false advertising and incorrect ingredients ?
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  • Ysmir
    Ysmir Posts: 828 Member
    In for answers
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
    Unless you have a reason not to eat whey (e.g. vegan, lactose intolerant, etc), whey is superior in every way.
  • MisterYoYo
    MisterYoYo Posts: 6
    I heard that all of those "nutrition bars" are really bad... Glorified candy...
    I use Whey because a buddy of mine (Who is in great shape) recommended it.
    I throw it in the juicer (Vanilla) and it tastes great...
  • 3laine75
    3laine75 Posts: 3,069 Member
    What are you trying to achieve? Whey is best for post workout as it is the fastest digested but if you just need to get your protein in, soy would be fine. (Not too sure if the soy contains all the essential amino acids though - might be worth checking)
  • LaurenDanielle014
    LaurenDanielle014 Posts: 88 Member
    i want to really tone and lose about 15-20 more Lbs, and have a protein shake before or after a work out to keep me full and improve my workout..... sounding like Whey is going to be my best bet..
  • MisterYoYo
    MisterYoYo Posts: 6
    Try and drink the Whey shake in the earliest part of the day that you can...
  • LaurenDanielle014
    LaurenDanielle014 Posts: 88 Member
    Okay I work out at night after work at 5:30. I should still have a whey protein shake in the morning? Im new to the protein world LOL
  • MisterYoYo
    MisterYoYo Posts: 6
    I only have it in the morning... You should blend a
    "celery - Kale/spinach - fruit" drink for post workout.
    Lighter, yet effective...
  • Shawshankcan
    Shawshankcan Posts: 900 Member
    Here is an article about soy milk, would assume it applies to soy protein powder..

    http://www.strengthsensei.com/why-soy-milk-is-a-con-job/
  • Shawshankcan
    Shawshankcan Posts: 900 Member
    Okay I work out at night after work at 5:30. I should still have a whey protein shake in the morning? Im new to the protein world LOL

    Just eat a normal breakfast. Have your protein before and after as normal, it is fine to do it this way.. I have a protein shake in the morning and before working out simply out of convenience. On days I don't work (as in my job), I eat eggs instead.
  • MisterYoYo
    MisterYoYo Posts: 6
    I just found this...
    I'm gonna have to pick up some sweet potato!!!

    "Post-Workout Refueler

    Almonds’ protein helps build and repair muscle. Plus, the potassium (twice as much as you get in two bananas) balances your electrolytes and fluids.

    Ingredients: Oranges, almonds, sweet potato, apple

    Calories: 231"
  • BillyJan1992
    BillyJan1992 Posts: 171 Member
    I prefer Whey Protein
  • 125KC
    125KC Posts: 71 Member
    I only use whey.
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    Here is an article about soy milk, would assume it applies to soy protein powder..

    http://www.strengthsensei.com/why-soy-milk-is-a-con-job/

    Great article that provides zero support for any of its listed arguments

    1. The amount depends greatly on how the soy is processed

    2. So does spinich, broccoli and cucumbers. Avoid those as well?

    3. Hot topic word, but the same can be said of dairy milk, corn, grains, etc., so not really an argument against anything but GMOs

    4. Ongoing debate, but stated as fact. Great use of fear inducing terminology though

    5. Argument seems to be mostly toward those who already have a thyroid issue

    6. Oligosaccharides are found in many things, and also "can be synthesized from lactose" (thanks google)

    7. Strong evidence that this is an issue in infants (primarily in formula), but I have yet to see a study that shows any concerns among adults

    Having said all that, I use whey, not soy, but not for any of these reasons. But really, that "article" is simply sad.
  • Joreanasaurous
    Joreanasaurous Posts: 1,384 Member
    I stick with Whey.
  • sanderdejonge
    sanderdejonge Posts: 415 Member
    Whey is a fast protein, so take it (pre and) post workout.
    I'm not sure what soy protein is, but I guess slow, similar to casein? Then you might want to take that before you go to bed. But for that I'd suggest eating greek yoghurt instead.
  • Tanya949
    Tanya949 Posts: 604 Member
    I eat whey protein, with the odd plant protein smoothie (vega one...pea protein I believe). I use whey protein in my homemade protein bars, and in my greek yogurt before bed. To take a break from the protein powder, I'll eat a big egg white omelet. I'm interested in trying the casein protein before bed, just have to go out and find some.
  • sanderdejonge
    sanderdejonge Posts: 415 Member
    I eat whey protein, with the odd plant protein smoothie (vega one...pea protein I believe). I use whey protein in my homemade protein bars, and in my greek yogurt before bed. To take a break from the protein powder, I'll eat a big egg white omelet. I'm interested in trying the casein protein before bed, just have to go out and find some.
    Casein is a slow protein, so is the protein in greek yoghurt.. So I'd suggest eating 500ml (approx 40gr of protein) of greek yoghurt instead of casein protein. Cheaper and healthier!

    It's better to take a slow protein before bed because it will supply your muscles with amino acids all night long!
    Whey is perfect post work out; quick supply to repair the damage!
  • Katietheroo
    Katietheroo Posts: 4
    While a little now and then is no big deal, large amounts of soy are not good for woman.(do a quick Google search about soy and woman's health) It can mess with your hormones so prolonged use can throw your whole system out of whack. it's better to stick with whey.
  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
    Whey. I don't trust soy.
  • Shawshankcan
    Shawshankcan Posts: 900 Member
    Here is an article about soy milk, would assume it applies to soy protein powder..

    http://www.strengthsensei.com/why-soy-milk-is-a-con-job/

    Great article that provides zero support for any of its listed arguments

    1. The amount depends greatly on how the soy is processed

    2. So does spinich, broccoli and cucumbers. Avoid those as well?

    3. Hot topic word, but the same can be said of dairy milk, corn, grains, etc., so not really an argument against anything but GMOs

    4. Ongoing debate, but stated as fact. Great use of fear inducing terminology though

    5. Argument seems to be mostly toward those who already have a thyroid issue

    6. Oligosaccharides are found in many things, and also "can be synthesized from lactose" (thanks google)

    7. Strong evidence that this is an issue in infants (primarily in formula), but I have yet to see a study that shows any concerns among adults

    Having said all that, I use whey, not soy, but not for any of these reasons. But really, that "article" is simply sad.

    The article I posted has summed up other articles I have read on the subject. The greatest flaw from this one is the lack of sources, thus making it seem an opinion piece.
  • ovi212
    ovi212 Posts: 145 Member
    Soy has antioxidants that whey doesn't. Also, there is nothing wrong with soy! Trust me, I've spent the last week reading about 80 undergrad projects about it.
  • MapleFlavouredMaiden
    MapleFlavouredMaiden Posts: 595 Member
    Food is best, whey, casein, and egg next. Soy is garbage. Effs with your hormones and is generally just bad news imo.
  • MapleFlavouredMaiden
    MapleFlavouredMaiden Posts: 595 Member
    Soy has antioxidants that whey doesn't. Also, there is nothing wrong with soy! Trust me, I've spent the last week reading about 80 undergrad projects about it.

    Cause undergrads have allll the answers...smh
  • lambchristie
    lambchristie Posts: 552 Member
    I use a whey protein and my trainer has told me to have it AFTER my workout to help repair muscles. He said to eat carbs before to give you energy for the burn/workout.
  • momoneka
    momoneka Posts: 52 Member
    Glad to see all of these answers because I just went out to buy some whey powder. :)
  • ovi212
    ovi212 Posts: 145 Member
    Actually...they had to get all their information from the primary literature...so why not try actually reading scientific articles where real scientists present their results ....

    And it does not affect your hormones....it can even help with cancer and cardiovascular disease

    Inform yourself before preaching
  • Rocbola
    Rocbola Posts: 1,998 Member
    How do you know you are needing protein supplements? Have you been diagnosed with protein deficiency?
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    Food is best, whey, casein, and egg next. Soy is garbage. Effs with your hormones and is generally just bad news imo.
    I'm afraid that is just total nonsense. I suggest actually do some proper research
  • rejectuf
    rejectuf Posts: 487 Member
    How do you know you are needing protein supplements? Have you been diagnosed with protein deficiency?

    I'd imagine someone could figure out if they need more protein by using this site for it's intended purpose: tracking calories and macronutrients. Just a hunch.

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