Appear fatter?

I've lost about 2-4lbs (hard to tell because of my scale) and tomorrow would mark the second week of my diet. However, I'm appearing fatter than two days ago? My belly seems to stick out a bit more. I don't know whether I'm being paranoid but it seems like it. Would a 2-4lb weight loss be noticeable? My starting weight was 154lbs at 5ft 8in, so not overweight. Also, pushups seem to be getting a bit harder. Again, I don't know if I'm not trying hard enough or what? Is there any plausible reason why I seem to appear fatter? I know this seems silly but thanks.

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  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    There is no way you can see a gain or loss of 2-4 pounds, unless you are 3 months old. Maybe you are just a little bloated.
  • gypsy_spirit
    gypsy_spirit Posts: 2,107 Member
    You're an 18 year old male with only about 14 pounds to lose. How much difference do you expect to see when all 14 pounds is gone?

    If you are feeling weaker when working out, you could be eating too few calories.
  • david2133
    david2133 Posts: 58
    I put 14lbs because I didn't know how much to lose. By 14lbs, I don't mean 14lbs to get to a healthy weight as I'm already at one but to a figure that I'd be happy with. Right now, I'm quite chubby. It's not that noticeable when I have clothes on though. I'm expecting to have an athletic figure and hopefully make my abs more prominent.
  • Faye_Anderson
    Faye_Anderson Posts: 1,495 Member
    I put 14lbs because I didn't know how much to lose. By 14lbs, I don't mean 14lbs to get to a healthy weight as I'm already at one but to a figure that I'd be happy with. Right now, I'm quite chubby. It's not that noticeable when I have clothes on though. I'm expecting to have an athletic figure and hopefully make my abs more prominent.

    You'd be better doing this by eating at least maintenance calories and lifting heavy. You're already a healthy weight, you are looking to change your body composition
  • motivatedmartha
    motivatedmartha Posts: 1,108 Member
    My tummy often appears bigger after doing abs work - it settles down again
  • lachesissss
    lachesissss Posts: 1,298 Member
    2-4lbs is about the size of a good, fiber-y deuce. I didn't really notice a huge difference in weightloss until I'd dropped close to 40lbs. Stop jedi mind tricking yourself into thinking that you're fatter, etc. By weight alone, you aren't. You're just expecting insta results and sometimes the weightloss game just doesn't work that way.
  • david2133
    david2133 Posts: 58
    But how will I lose the fat by eating at maintenance? Also, my BMI is 23.41, quite close to 25 which is overweight. I heard the only way to expose abs is by removing the fat covering them? Whilst we're on the subject, as someone said before that 4lbs is unnoticeable, how much in my case will be? Can someone advise me how much to lose?
  • elliej
    elliej Posts: 466 Member
    I put 14lbs because I didn't know how much to lose. By 14lbs, I don't mean 14lbs to get to a healthy weight as I'm already at one but to a figure that I'd be happy with. Right now, I'm quite chubby. It's not that noticeable when I have clothes on though. I'm expecting to have an athletic figure and hopefully make my abs more prominent.

    You'd be better doing this by eating at least maintenance calories and lifting heavy. You're already a healthy weight, you are looking to change your body composition
    Quoted for truth
  • Faye_Anderson
    Faye_Anderson Posts: 1,495 Member
    But how will I lose the fat by eating at maintenance? Also, my BMI is 23.41, quite close to 25 which is overweight. I heard the only way to expose abs is by removing the fat covering them? Whilst we're on the subject, as someone said before that 4lbs is unnoticeable, how much in my case will be? Can someone advise me how much to lose?

    BMI is not a good indication of health. body builder's BMIs put them into the obese category but they aren't obese! Lifting heavy raises your metabolism and helps you burn fat better than cardio, eating at or above maintenance helps you to build muscle
  • LoveInnocent
    LoveInnocent Posts: 44 Member
    If you are a healthy weight, its not that you want to lose, you technically want to gain. By lifting heavy and eating maintenance calories and more protein you will build more muscle. The more muscle mass you have the more that burns fat. Muscle weighs more than fat. But you eill appear more bloated depending on the type of food you are eating too.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    unless you've been doing 400 crunches a day, you're just a bit bloated.
  • david2133
    david2133 Posts: 58
    I understand but my point is wouldn't it be better if I lost excess fat before muscle gain? Otherwise, the fat would just cover any muscle I gain. My body fat percentage is 19.8%.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    I understand but my point is wouldn't it be better if I lost excess fat before muscle gain? Otherwise, the fat would just cover any muscle I gain. My body fat percentage is 19.8%.

    no, you should start lifting as soon as possible. strength training will help you burn a lot of fat. i totally understand wanting to lose weight and then build muscle, because i used to think the same way. and the great thing is that you can do both at the same time. not only that, it's a little easier to get strong in the beginning if your body has all those fat reserves to tap.
  • david2133
    david2133 Posts: 58
    Really? I thought only cardio is better for fat burn than weight lifting. It was also my understanding that gaining muscle and losing fat can't occur simultaneously as one requires a caloric deficit whilst the other needs a caloric surplus? Forgive me for my naïveté if I'm incorrect.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    Really? I thought only cardio is better for fat burn than weight lifting. It was also my understanding that gaining muscle and losing fat can't occur simultaneously as one requires a caloric deficit whilst the other needs a caloric surplus? Forgive me for my naïveté if I'm incorrect.


    you are sort of correct. if you strength train while eating at a slight deficit you can and will get stronger. your body will fuel itself with food and fat stored up. also, you will have something called newbie gains. they're awesome. for the first few months and even a year you can and will just keep getting stronger. you'll be setting personal records every week.

    but at one point your gains will slow down. you might struggle to go up 5 pounds on squats. you'll fail a rep or two. at that moment is when you start to look at your diet. and remember, this can take a really long time, almost a whole year. it can even be minimized if you make sure to eat plenty of protein while on a deficit.


    also, to get the very large muscles, you will need to be on a deficit. and you build muscle, while also putting on some fat. then you do a calorie deficit while cutting back on the weight lifting and doing some extra cardio. this is what is commonly known as "bulk and cut."
  • david2133
    david2133 Posts: 58
    So in my case, should I carry on my diet but also strength train too? Also, would 10lbs be sufficient of weight loss. I get what you're saying but i want to lose weight first to give me the motivation. I hope you understand what I mean? For someone of my physique would 10lbs be noticeable. Most of my fat is on my abdomen with the remainder on my chest and to a lesser extent on other places.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    So in my case, should I carry on my diet but also strength train too? Also, would 10lbs be sufficient of weight loss. I get what you're saying but i want to lose weight first to give me the motivation. I hope you understand what I mean? For someone of my physique would 10lbs be noticeable. Most of my fat is on my abdomen with the remainder on my chest and to a lesser extent on other places.

    dude, i have no idea what you look like. i have no idea what your ideal body is. you say 5'8" and 154lbs, and you're just at the cusp on having an overweight BMI. that all means nothing to me.

    i'm 6'3" and 235 lbs. according to my BMI i'm overweight. i don't care. i compete in triathlons in the clydesdale division and usually come out in the top half of it, and have even won first place. i also carry most of my weight in my stomach. it's common, and the last place you lose weight from.

    if dropping the number on the scale motivates you, thats great. you know what motivates me? lifting something up that last week was too heavy. running a distance that last week was too far. finishing a race that last year i completed much slower.
  • david2133
    david2133 Posts: 58
    So in my case, should I carry on my diet but also strength train too? Also, would 10lbs be sufficient of weight loss. I get what you're saying but i want to lose weight first to give me the motivation. I hope you understand what I mean? For someone of my physique would 10lbs be noticeable. Most of my fat is on my abdomen with the remainder on my chest and to a lesser extent on other places.

    dude, i have no idea what you look like. i have no idea what your ideal body is. you say 5'8" and 154lbs, and you're just at the cusp on having an overweight BMI. that all means nothing to me.

    i'm 6'3" and 235 lbs. according to my BMI i'm overweight. i don't care. i compete in triathlons in the clydesdale division and usually come out in the top half of it, and have even won first place. i also carry most of my weight in my stomach. it's common, and the last place you lose weight from.

    if dropping the number on the scale motivates you, thats great. you know what motivates me? lifting something up that last week was too heavy. running a distance that last week was too far. finishing a race that last year i completed much slower.

    My BF is 19.8% if that helps?
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    So in my case, should I carry on my diet but also strength train too? Also, would 10lbs be sufficient of weight loss. I get what you're saying but i want to lose weight first to give me the motivation. I hope you understand what I mean? For someone of my physique would 10lbs be noticeable. Most of my fat is on my abdomen with the remainder on my chest and to a lesser extent on other places.

    dude, i have no idea what you look like. i have no idea what your ideal body is. you say 5'8" and 154lbs, and you're just at the cusp on having an overweight BMI. that all means nothing to me.

    i'm 6'3" and 235 lbs. according to my BMI i'm overweight. i don't care. i compete in triathlons in the clydesdale division and usually come out in the top half of it, and have even won first place. i also carry most of my weight in my stomach. it's common, and the last place you lose weight from.

    if dropping the number on the scale motivates you, thats great. you know what motivates me? lifting something up that last week was too heavy. running a distance that last week was too far. finishing a race that last year i completed much slower.

    My BF is 19.8% if that helps?

    it doesn't.

    but if you think you want to lose 10-15 pounds, go for it. but i'm telling you that you will see the best results from a slight deficit; a strength training routine consisting of predominantly barbell movements like squats, deadlifts, overhead press, and bench press; a reasonable amount of cardio-conditioning; and adequate rest.
  • david2133
    david2133 Posts: 58
    So in my case, should I carry on my diet but also strength train too? Also, would 10lbs be sufficient of weight loss. I get what you're saying but i want to lose weight first to give me the motivation. I hope you understand what I mean? For someone of my physique would 10lbs be noticeable. Most of my fat is on my abdomen with the remainder on my chest and to a lesser extent on other places.

    dude, i have no idea what you look like. i have no idea what your ideal body is. you say 5'8" and 154lbs, and you're just at the cusp on having an overweight BMI. that all means nothing to me.

    i'm 6'3" and 235 lbs. according to my BMI i'm overweight. i don't care. i compete in triathlons in the clydesdale division and usually come out in the top half of it, and have even won first place. i also carry most of my weight in my stomach. it's common, and the last place you lose weight from.

    if dropping the number on the scale motivates you, thats great. you know what motivates me? lifting something up that last week was too heavy. running a distance that last week was too far. finishing a race that last year i completed much slower.

    My BF is 19.8% if that helps?

    it doesn't.

    but if you think you want to lose 10-15 pounds, go for it. but i'm telling you that you will see the best results from a slight deficit; a strength training routine consisting of predominantly barbell movements like squats, deadlifts, overhead press, and bench press; a reasonable amount of cardio-conditioning; and adequate rest.

    Ok, thanks. Back to the topic, could bloating have caused it? I didn't feel particularly bloated and I have been doing crunches, though no way near 400.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    So in my case, should I carry on my diet but also strength train too? Also, would 10lbs be sufficient of weight loss. I get what you're saying but i want to lose weight first to give me the motivation. I hope you understand what I mean? For someone of my physique would 10lbs be noticeable. Most of my fat is on my abdomen with the remainder on my chest and to a lesser extent on other places.

    dude, i have no idea what you look like. i have no idea what your ideal body is. you say 5'8" and 154lbs, and you're just at the cusp on having an overweight BMI. that all means nothing to me.

    i'm 6'3" and 235 lbs. according to my BMI i'm overweight. i don't care. i compete in triathlons in the clydesdale division and usually come out in the top half of it, and have even won first place. i also carry most of my weight in my stomach. it's common, and the last place you lose weight from.

    if dropping the number on the scale motivates you, thats great. you know what motivates me? lifting something up that last week was too heavy. running a distance that last week was too far. finishing a race that last year i completed much slower.

    My BF is 19.8% if that helps?

    it doesn't.

    but if you think you want to lose 10-15 pounds, go for it. but i'm telling you that you will see the best results from a slight deficit; a strength training routine consisting of predominantly barbell movements like squats, deadlifts, overhead press, and bench press; a reasonable amount of cardio-conditioning; and adequate rest.

    The good captain knows his stuff...
  • Faye_Anderson
    Faye_Anderson Posts: 1,495 Member
    Ok, thanks. Back to the topic, could bloating have caused it? I didn't feel particularly bloated and I have been doing crunches, though no way near 400.

    You seem to be ignoring the good advice you're getting, but "back to topic" your weight fluctuates over the day, in my case this can be anything up to 6lbs and I don't look any heavier or thinner. I think you're imagining you look fatter, especially if you don't feel bloated. A 2lb -4lb loss wouldn't make any great significance. How many calories do you eat per day?
  • corgarian
    corgarian Posts: 366 Member
    So in my case, should I carry on my diet but also strength train too? Also, would 10lbs be sufficient of weight loss. I get what you're saying but i want to lose weight first to give me the motivation. I hope you understand what I mean? For someone of my physique would 10lbs be noticeable. Most of my fat is on my abdomen with the remainder on my chest and to a lesser extent on other places.

    dude, i have no idea what you look like. i have no idea what your ideal body is. you say 5'8" and 154lbs, and you're just at the cusp on having an overweight BMI. that all means nothing to me.

    i'm 6'3" and 235 lbs. according to my BMI i'm overweight. i don't care. i compete in triathlons in the clydesdale division and usually come out in the top half of it, and have even won first place. i also carry most of my weight in my stomach. it's common, and the last place you lose weight from.

    if dropping the number on the scale motivates you, thats great. you know what motivates me? lifting something up that last week was too heavy. running a distance that last week was too far. finishing a race that last year i completed much slower.
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  • Try not to put so much focus on whether or not you "appear fatter" because chances are its all in your head. This is your journey and your goals. If you want to lose 14lbs with just a calorie deficit first, then do it. But understand that it's going to take patience and a lot more than a couple of weeks to see the difference, even if you've lost x pounds on a scale.

    However, if your end goal is to build muscle or get fit, there's no reason why you can't start now. The sooner, the better with fitness.
  • david2133
    david2133 Posts: 58
    Ok, thanks. Back to the topic, could bloating have caused it? I didn't feel particularly bloated and I have been doing crunches, though no way near 400.

    You seem to be ignoring the good advice you're getting, but "back to topic" your weight fluctuates over the day, in my case this can be anything up to 6lbs and I don't look any heavier or thinner. I think you're imagining you look fatter, especially if you don't feel bloated. A 2lb -4lb loss wouldn't make any great significance. How many calories do you eat per day?

    I have taken into account all the advice I've been given. I definetly haven't ignored it. It's just that I am very easily demotivated so I'd like to see some results to show myself I'm going somewhere. I figured 10lbs would be enough for a significant difference though I haven't seen before and after pics of someone similar to me who lost 10lbs. I'm eating 1200 cal/day.
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    I understand but my point is wouldn't it be better if I lost excess fat before muscle gain? Otherwise, the fat would just cover any muscle I gain. My body fat percentage is 19.8%.

    Nevermind.
  • maryann9wood
    maryann9wood Posts: 75 Member
    Oh now you had to go start the 1200 calorie thing. An 18 year old should NOT be eating that little. You are still growing, many men grow in height and size through about 22. Please see a professional to help you find a good nutritional plan.
  • cingle87
    cingle87 Posts: 717 Member
    Ok, thanks. Back to the topic, could bloating have caused it? I didn't feel particularly bloated and I have been doing crunches, though no way near 400.

    You seem to be ignoring the good advice you're getting, but "back to topic" your weight fluctuates over the day, in my case this can be anything up to 6lbs and I don't look any heavier or thinner. I think you're imagining you look fatter, especially if you don't feel bloated. A 2lb -4lb loss wouldn't make any great significance. How many calories do you eat per day?

    I have taken into account all the advice I've been given. I definetly haven't ignored it. It's just that I am very easily demotivated so I'd like to see some results to show myself I'm going somewhere. I figured 10lbs would be enough for a significant difference though I haven't seen before and after pics of someone similar to me who lost 10lbs. I'm eating 1200 cal/day.

    For the love of god, a 18 year old male @ 5 8" should not be eating any where nere 1200, you could easily be losing on 1800-2000+ why starve yourself?

    The reason MFP gave you the 1200 number you set it to lose 2lbs per week which with someone who is at healthy weight wanting to lose some vanity pounds is no way achievable or advisable. Please re evaluate your goals set them to 0.5lbs per week and lift some damn heavy weights.
  • zeal26
    zeal26 Posts: 602 Member
    My stomach appears more noticeable lately but I figure it's because there's less fat around it. But at 2-4lbs lost, I would say bloating and normal body fluctuations. Some days my stomach looks a lot bigger than others.

    I eat at 1200(ish) calories (though I'm slowly upping them week by week) and I do think 1200 for a 5' 8'' 18 year old male is way too little. If you're not even overweight, you could really do with taking your weight loss slowly and focusing more on strength and fitness.
  • david2133
    david2133 Posts: 58
    Oh sorry, I hadn't realised. I've been quite sendentary doing little to no exercise and barely leaving the house for the last week so I thought I'd have to eat quite low in calories.