i am about to give up
albajrai
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I lost around 50 lb in 18 months. Now my weight is 180 lb. My goal is 160 lb
I pay attention to the details so i weigh my food, i weigh every thing. If i don't know the calorie for anything i don't eat it.
I did p90x ,insanity and T25. Currently i am doing p90x3. These workouts helped me so much.
I drink plenty of water
I am using polar hrm
i don't cheat
I am trying my best to do every thing right
Since 4 months i am suffering, my weight never moved.
I was eating 2400 cal for two months, burning around 400 (6 times a week) as exercise but didn't lose any lb.
Then, i reduced my cal intake to 2100 for one month , burning 400 cal but my weight is the same.
So I reduced my intake to 1500 for another month and I double my workout so i am burning 600-700 cal, but no more loss.
Now i am hungry all the time, tired and become nervous and depressed (for sure this because i am eating two low).
Now ,I don't believe in calorie in-out any more ,i don't believe in starvation and metabolism any more.
Our bodies are really beyond our understanding.
Male
Age 30
Height - 5' 8"
Weight 180 lb
I pay attention to the details so i weigh my food, i weigh every thing. If i don't know the calorie for anything i don't eat it.
I did p90x ,insanity and T25. Currently i am doing p90x3. These workouts helped me so much.
I drink plenty of water
I am using polar hrm
i don't cheat
I am trying my best to do every thing right
Since 4 months i am suffering, my weight never moved.
I was eating 2400 cal for two months, burning around 400 (6 times a week) as exercise but didn't lose any lb.
Then, i reduced my cal intake to 2100 for one month , burning 400 cal but my weight is the same.
So I reduced my intake to 1500 for another month and I double my workout so i am burning 600-700 cal, but no more loss.
Now i am hungry all the time, tired and become nervous and depressed (for sure this because i am eating two low).
Now ,I don't believe in calorie in-out any more ,i don't believe in starvation and metabolism any more.
Our bodies are really beyond our understanding.
Male
Age 30
Height - 5' 8"
Weight 180 lb
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Just because your weight doesn't go down does not mean you aren't burning fat. Your body can retain a lot of water especially during intense exercise and I have my suspicions that upon fat loss your fat cells start retaining water as well only to eventually shed it. I have no idea from your post how long you have been at this or how long you stuck to those calorie deficit phases but it was definitely a mistake to drop yourself to 1500 calories a day exercising as much as you are and you should return to 2400 or at least 2100.
What is your actual goal exactly? It can't be just a number on the scale can it? Are you looking for a certain asthetic look? A particular percent bodyfat? A strength goal? Why are you so focused on the number 160?0 -
What about your measures?
Do you (or, better, some friend) see that you actually look different, more fit, slimmer?
What do tell you your clothes?
Did you take "before" pics as to compare with how are you now?
There is not only the scale to see our results.
You did a lot of work till now, don't waste it!
And, yes, you are feeling nervous and depressed also for the too low calorie intake...
Don't give up!0 -
I am sorry you are feeling so down!
Could you give yourself a mental break for a month by eating at your maintenance calories? Just make sure to keep logging! Maybe after a month you'll think of some other approach.
I think you're right though that our bodies are a mystery sometimes...0 -
Why give up? why waste all the time and effort you have put into lossing 50lbs?!?! Weight loss is a marathon. You have to keep going keep trying. I agree with aaron. Dont drop your calories so low just because you dont see a difference. Your body needs those calories to keep doing the workouts your doing. Change up your routine, change around the foods you eat. Enjoy your current weight loss and keep going. Eventually weightloss slows down. Most people say.. first 20lbs comes off so easy.. its that last 20 thats a pain in the *kitten*. So keep with it. Remind yourself of all the dedication you have put in. Once you hit your goal weight your not going to give up right? Be proud of yourself and your body.0
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You dropped your calories to 1500......
I wonder why?
Your nutrition requirements of Protein, Carbs and Fat are very important and that will determine your body composition working out as hard as you say you are.
I would recommend reading Will Brink's "Body Building Revealed" or "Fat Loss Revealed" to understand the importance of nutrition in reaching your goal: coz you have indeed 'hit the nail on the head' by realising a calorie is not just any old calorie from what ever food you feel like.
http://www.brinkzone.com/
If you don't want to buy a book from an internationally acknowledged author, Scooby's Home Workout's on the internet has a very good foc nutrition advice section that will again explain the importance of macro (and micro) nutrients in getting the body you want: not just calories in and calories out.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/nutrition/
Good Luck
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I am sorry you are feeling so down!
Could you give yourself a mental break for a month by eating at your maintenance calories? Just make sure to keep logging! Maybe after a month you'll think of some other approach.
This is not a bad idea. If you are exhausted and frustrated perhaps you should "treat" yourself by determining what your current maintenance level is. Ease up off the exercise, do maybe half what you have been doing, and eat more. Then after a rest period perhaps you can go back to it and start seeing gains again.0 -
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I drink plenty of water
I am using polar hrm
i don't cheat
I am trying my best to do every thing right
Right now i'm wondering about myself also... I went down to 86kg and this week i'm back up to 88kg... I haven't done anything differently.. other then start a gym program... I can't believe that it is muscle weight.... especially since I have only gone three times...
I did increase my calories and while the cardio is about the same... because i'm trying to lose my last 7kg but i figured i needed the extra protein...
I would suggest... like me.. you should just keep on going and stop worrying about it... take a break from the diet.. just eat healthy and continue to exercise lightly... don't even look at the scale... and after the month is over... hit the diet again hard... see what happens...0 -
Doesn't seem possible. Have you been to the doctor?
Do you count alcohol, juice, coffee, tea, soda, etc? Do you eat out?0 -
I drink plenty of water
I am using polar hrm
i don't cheat
I am trying my best to do every thing right
Right now i'm wondering about myself also... I went down to 86kg and this week i'm back up to 88kg... I haven't done anything differently.. other then start a gym program... I can't believe that it is muscle weight.... especially since I have only gone three times...
I did increase my calories and while the cardio is about the same... because i'm trying to lose my last 7kg but i figured i needed the extra protein...
I would suggest... like me.. you should just keep on going and stop worrying about it... take a break from the diet.. just eat healthy and continue to exercise lightly... don't even look at the scale... and after the month is over... hit the diet again hard... see what happens...
If you started weight lifting after not having weight lifted for a long time the muscles will tend to get a little sore and retain a lot of water. A 2 kg weight gain is completely explainable by water retention due to use of your muscles. I wouldn't worry about it man, its not fat and its not muscle....not over that amount of time, it is just water.0 -
I drink plenty of water
I am using polar hrm
i don't cheat
I am trying my best to do every thing right
None of this is relevant if you arent actually eating at a calorie deficit.0 -
The last time I plateau'd I took diet break and ate at maintenance for 3 weeks. I did keep logging and exercising. When I started at a deficit again, the scale started moving, albeit more slowly than before. Some say it is beneficial to the metabolism-- maybe. However, it was definitely good for my brain to take an occasional diet break when you have been eating at a deficit long term.0
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Just because your weight doesn't go down does not mean you aren't burning fat. Your body can retain a lot of water especially during intense exercise and I have my suspicions that upon fat loss your fat cells start retaining water as well only to eventually shed it. I have no idea from your post how long you have been at this or how long you stuck to those calorie deficit phases but it was definitely a mistake to drop yourself to 1500 calories a day exercising as much as you are and you should return to 2400 or at least 2100.
What is your actual goal exactly? It can't be just a number on the scale can it? Are you looking for a certain asthetic look? A particular percent bodyfat? A strength goal? Why are you so focused on the number 160?
I know it is a mistake , I read and i am still reading a lot of articles and some books in diet and health. I just want to break this number 180 lb. If i return to 2100 - 2400 or even more i am sure i will not gain weight. But doing same things i did it in previous 4 months will not help.
My goal is to lose more fat ..my current BF is 18% .. my goal is 10%.
I am focusing on 160 because it is my ideal weight i guess. If adding more muscles to 160 lb no problem for sure.0 -
What about your measures?
Do you (or, better, some friend) see that you actually look different, more fit, slimmer?
What do tell you your clothes?
Did you take "before" pics as to compare with how are you now?
There is not only the scale to see our results.
You did a lot of work till now, don't waste it!
And, yes, you are feeling nervous and depressed also for the too low calorie intake...
Don't give up!
My friends see that i am slimmer and look better. But the truth is that my measurements are the same since 4 months. If my measurements are improving i will not really write this post. Actually i start thinking seriously that i may have a medical issue
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You have to look at things in balance. How long have you been training to lose fat without taking a break? (fat not weight!) What is your macro-nutrient breakdown percentages? How hard do you train and how often? Do you mix up nutritional intake between training days and non training days? Do you get enough water ? (How much is plenty?) How high is salt / sodium intake? Do you eat clean or do you add anything in just to make up calorie intake? How much Cardio v weight training do you do? these are some of the questions I would ask myself in your position.
What I do keep seeing on here is calorie deficit, calorie deficit, calorie deficit all the time. Well I am sorry it is not always about calorie deficit. Training and nutritional intake should be done in phases or periodised. Fat loss isn't and will never be a quick fix. Healthy eating and physical exercise should become part of your lifestyle not just a passing fad, so don't give up (be persistent). Take a step back and analyse what you have done so far, congratulate yourself on what you have achieved. Rest, recover and give yourself a chance to enjoy the new body you have now at this time.0 -
Give up ...or don't give up .. it's your choice.
Look, you know the health benefits of being fit and the right weight. So take a deep breath, have a word with yourself and get back on it.
If you want hugs ... get a puppy
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I would maintain for a while so you don't give up, you've come too far to give it up!0
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If you started weight lifting after not having weight lifted for a long time the muscles will tend to get a little sore and retain a lot of water. A 2 kg weight gain is completely explainable by water retention due to use of your muscles. I wouldn't worry about it man, its not fat and its not muscle....not over that amount of time, it is just water.
I was kind of figuring that also....0 -
Yes you can give up that's your choice or you could try and see whats going on. If you open your diary people may be able to give more specific logging advice. Or you can wallow in self pity and undo all the work you've done. Your choice0
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A few things..
Your diary is closed. So there's no supporting evidence of your accuracy. You are possibly retaining water due to your new workout plan. Also you have not said how long you stay at the reduced level before you decide to cut again. If you insist that your measurements are the same then you aren't in a deficit so either your food logging isn't accurate or your calories burned from exercise are too high.
"Maybe" you have a medical condition but make sure that your not just using that as an excuse. .considering that you managed to lose 50 lbs I'm more likely to think that there isn't anything medically wrong with you but I'm not a doctor.
Open your diary and we'll see.0 -
you lost 50lbs and with the first hiccup you lose faith and about to give up?? what gives!
looks like you are pushing yourself too hard, and your body is getting defensive and retaining fats or what they call it a starvation mode.
Celebrate what you've achieved already, enjoy your life as you live it, live healthy, eat well, and exercise, and and the body will take care of itself!0 -
Please don't give up.0
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zellturtle... I gave my self two weeks as rest... eating 2400 cal...just to sharpen my metabolism...even i stopped my workouts...then i reduced it to 2100 and start my workout. but nothing happened
chandra2802 ... i am really happy with my new body....but i hope to get a new idea here , some experience or some words encourage me as your words.
DerROK...Thanks for the links and support...but i am really well educated in nutrition...i will check them
Aaron_K123... i am really considering giving my self and body some rest. I dont want even to see the scale.
elljay91.... I already done...thanks
eslcity...believe me it is water...muscles have some defensive response to damaging by absorbing some water.especially when heavy lifting .
mspoopoo.... i just drink tea with stevia and water (:
eldamiano.... thats why i reduced my calories ... i am trying different ways
acpgee..... thanks for sharing your experience.. i might try this.0 -
PLEASE increase your calorie intake. With all the exercising you are doing you need more cals. Your body is hanging onto everything it has because you are not feeding it enough every day. Just make sure what you eat is not "empty calories." Grab fruits, veggies and lean protein. Even foods with natural fats will help your metabolism--try nuts and avocados, etc. These are so good for your health, overall well being, and metabolism. You are being way too hard on yourself!! Look at how far you've come already. You rock:)0
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DerROK...Thanks for the links and support...but i am really well educated in nutrition...i will check them
Prob style you wrote your message in. As you mentioned many details, but nothing about ensuring you consumed 180g Protein (or 148g Protein if using the 1.8 per kg rather than the Ameican 1g per lb calculation) in your 1500 calories or about trying carb cycling and always ensuring you kept your healthy fat intakes up high for your hormones, then I doubt I would have wondered about your Nutrition which you barely mention.
The workouts you mention are very demanding and I am sure that your body must want to add lb of LBM, so at 1500 calories I wondered if it had all the nutrients it needs to do that. Else, it may think it's starving and reacting defensively.
Wish I was 30 again! You can add loads more LBM than I can in a year
The big value of Will Brink's eBooks is he sometimes offers free forum membership for his forum bundled with it, where you get advice direct from him!
I am sure you will find something that works for you: so many things like Intermittent Fasting, Carb Cycling to try before giving up.
I hope you get through this bad patch and one day we are all reading your success story 0 -
Thank you all for your support.
After I read your posts.I decided to increase my calorie intake from 1500 to 1800. and decreased my workout burned calorie to 500.
I already did that since two days. I feel better...not depressed any more. I guess I was pushing my body hard.
I was following nutrition plan of p90x3 which suggesting 2400 - 2100 (40 c,30 p , 30 f) but now I will keep on 1800 cal
I will see what happens and I will update this thread.0 -
I just would like to thank you all and tell you that my weight start moving down.
After i increased my calorie from 1500 to 1800 and reduced my workout from 600 to 500 ... miracle happened0 -
A. Go back up to 2400
B. Start lifting weights (as in heavy weights). You'll see a much more dramatic change.0
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