Why do the scales stand still when I exercise???

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I recently quit losing weight despite creating a calorie deficit that should have lost. I gave up the treadmill for a week and did low carb (crazy high calories and fat) and I lost 2 pounds. I figured its water as one pound came soaring back.

This week I went back to eating right. I purchased the Bodymedia' arm band wondering if I was just some oddball over estimating my BMR or activity level. I'm doing everything to a T!! Seriously.. Measuring, weighing, keeping my pie chart balanced. Yet even after creating a big deficit I'm not seeing it on the scales.

If it all boils down to 3500 calories = a pound.. How come I'm not seeing it? I'm not discouraged. I like my exercise because it seems to get me going and makes me hungry enough to actually eat all my calories lol! But it does stink that it seems to stall me.

The only thing I know to do is lower my calories. But a deficit is a deficit right? If I'm making 1000 deficit each day it shouldn't matter? So.. Do I just create an even bigger deficit to lose?

Thanks :)

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  • kristinegift
    kristinegift Posts: 2,406 Member
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    How many calories are you netting per day? If you're stagnating, you might want to add 100-200 calories a day, because your body might be holding on to weight because it thinks it's starving. I usually stagnate for a little while when I'm building up a lot of muscle, and I'll add a couple hundred calories and then drop 1-2 pounds in a week. Just keep eating good food and exercising, and the pounds will come off eventually :)
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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    Because when you first start to exercise or increase intensity, your muscles store extra glycogen in anticipation of the next workout. In order to store glycogen, water is required. This is what we refer to as "water weight". It is not the same as bloating when you consume too much sodium or something. It would be barely noticible except with the scale. It can be enough to mask small losses in fat and frightens many people off of exercise. Or people often assume they are gaining muscle. It is one of the reasons why scale weight isn't a reliable indicator of progress.

    When I changed up my workout routine to lifting heavier, I gained two pounds and stayed there for an entire month. My measurements barely changed, but in the before and after photos you can see a big difference.

    It is temporary and eventually your weigh loss will catch up and the scale will begin to move again

    ETA - this is also the explaination for the big drop when dropping your carbs. Carbs are stored as glycogen in the muscles. When you lower carbs, the stores drop and the water weight is released. Binge on carbs and you'll suddenly increase in weight as the stores are replenished.
  • dt3312
    dt3312 Posts: 212 Member
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    The scales don't reflect everything. Two examples from my own life:

    I got sick and bedridden. I lost 7 pounds in a month without trying and with eating the same diet. At first I thought "Great! I lost 7 pounds!" But then I realized my measurements stayed the same and I had gotten flabby. I lost muscle tone.

    Another example: The scale is staying the same, but my waist measurement is decreasing, and my arms are becoming more muscular. I am getting in shape even though the scale says the same thing.

    How are your measurements doing?
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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  • mulecanter
    mulecanter Posts: 1,792 Member
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    Because when you first start to exercise or increase intensity, your muscles store extra glycogen in anticipation of the next workout. In order to store glycogen, water is required. This is what we refer to as "water weight". It is not the same as bloating when you consume too much sodium or something. It would be barely noticible except with the scale. It can be enough to mask small losses in fat and frightens many people off of exercise. Or people often assume they are gaining muscle. It is one of the reasons why scale weight isn't a reliable indicator of progress.

    When I changed up my workout routine to lifting heavier, I gained two pounds and stayed there for an entire month. My measurements barely changed, but in the before and after photos you can see a big difference.

    It is temporary and eventually your weigh loss will catch up and the scale will begin to move again

    ETA - this is also the explaination for the big drop when dropping your carbs. Carbs are stored as glycogen in the muscles. When you lower carbs, the stores drop and the water weight is released. Binge on carbs and you'll suddenly increase in weight as the stores are replenished.


    This!
    (Thank you for not telling her she's in starvation mode.)
  • jaimedeline77
    jaimedeline77 Posts: 28 Member
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    Thanks!

    I know I'm not starving lol.. Well I don't feel like I am.

    I'm 37
    Weigh 145 (I've lost 20! Woohoo)
    I'm eating 1400 calories and by end of day my pie chart is pretty balanced.
    I'm exercising on treadmill and some outdoors. But I'm going for an hour each day.

    My calorie deficit (so says my arm band) is 900-1200 daily depending on my day to day routine.

    The only thing that I'm not doing is lifting weights!
    That is pure laziness, no motivation, and total disinterest! I've got some weights like hand weights? But for whatever reason I pick them up and feel like a dork because I just can't get into it and motivate myself.

    I'm really happy! I've tried low carb.. I've tried 1200 calories and even 1050 calories.. All stall with exercise!
    Except? I did 1200 calories with major carb restrictions and 2 hours exercise! That bought me 2 pounds a week that didn't come back when I changed up. But gosh I was miserable with food choices and all that exercise lol!

    I think I'm going to stick it out a few weeks and go with the idea my muscles are holding that water!

    How long do you think I should allow myself to stall before I reevaluate?
  • jaimedeline77
    jaimedeline77 Posts: 28 Member
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    So? It's possible that I have lost.. I'm just gaining too? That sounded bizarre but you know what I mean!

    Anyone know just how much water these muscles can hold??? Lol

    Like? If I'm on a deficit that shows I've lost 2 pounds.. And it doesn't show on scale then let's assume there's two pounds of water in my muscles. So? By the time I create another 7000 calorie deficit I should see it on scales! Or am I to assume my muscles are now holding 4 pounds of water?

    Somebody educate me :)
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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    If you are 15 pounds or so away from goal weight like your ticker indicates, you should not be trying to lose 2 pounds per week. As you get closer to goal weight, the weight loss will slow. Try aiming for half a pound to one pound a week.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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    So? It's possible that I have lost.. I'm just gaining too? That sounded bizarre but you know what I mean!

    Anyone know just how much water these muscles can hold??? Lol

    Like? If I'm on a deficit that shows I've lost 2 pounds.. And it doesn't show on scale then let's assume there's two pounds of water in my muscles. So? By the time I create another 7000 calorie deficit I should see it on scales! Or am I to assume my muscles are now holding 4 pounds of water?

    Somebody educate me :)

    Yes, it is possible you have lost fat but it is not showing on the scale due to water fluctuations for any number of reasons. Since you are saying you notice it when you start to exercise, the glycogen storage is a likely issue for the initial few weeks and a couple of pounds. If we start talking about a consistent trend upwards, it may not be.

    Again, part of the problem is using the scale to measure progress. The time frame is also an issue. Over a longer period of time, the scale can show us a trend, but over the short term it can easily be influenced by a number of factors that can mask a weight loss trend.
    Weight loss is not linear, there are any number of factors that affect scale weight as noted in the link I posted above. It depends on how you are "creating" the 7000 calorie deficit. Yes we know a pound is about 3500 calories, but weight loss isn't quite that simple. There are a number of factors that may come into play. There is often overetimatation of calorie burns, underestimation of food intake, hormones, and other factors that can affect the weight loss. Over time, it will eventually come off if we are maintaining a deficit, but a 7000 calorie deficit does not always translate directly into a 2 lb weight loss.

    Start looking at it over a period of time, not just week to week or worse, day to day, along with other things like measurements and progress photos. If you notice the scale stop moving when you start exercising, continue to exercise and monitor the scale progress along with other progress measures over a few weeks (like more than 2 or 3) and then see how it is trending, up or down.

    Also , as Deksgrl noted, 2 lbs a week is far too high of a goal for someone with 15lbs to lose. It is only a reasonable goal for someone with 100lbs or more to lose.
  • jaimedeline77
    jaimedeline77 Posts: 28 Member
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    My check in day is suppose to be every Monday. I weigh, take measurements, and pics.
    I've peeked at scales every day this week.

    When I bought this armband and synced it with mfp.. It told me 1400 calories. Lol that's a lot to me so I've been nervous.
    As of this morning I've now gained 2 pounds.

    It's just frustrating.. But I do understand what y'all are saying. Lol even if it's not what I want to hear! Ha ha!
  • AusEliza
    AusEliza Posts: 60 Member
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    I found this too, but it was infact that I was putting on more muscle which is heavier then fat.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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    I found this too, but it was infact that I was putting on more muscle which is heavier then fat.

    No, you weren't putting on muscle eating at a calorie deficit. Your muscles were retaining water. And a pound of fat is the same as a pound of muscle, they are just different volume, not weight.