Silly question.
Chris_Pierce
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A thought just popped into my head as I was entering my exercise for the day. Is there anything wrong with burning more calories during exercise than my net consumption?
Example: Today I burned around 1500 calories in exercise. But my net goal is 1290.
I generally burn around the same amount as my net goal. That way I can still eat a ton of food and lose weight. So far it's working well. I'm losing weight, I feel good, a little sore and a little tired, but I'm enjoying myself. I enjoy lifting and cardio, so I don't want to stop what I'm doing unless there is something bad happening that I'm not aware of.
Has anyone done this long term?
Thoughts?
Thanks
Chris
Example: Today I burned around 1500 calories in exercise. But my net goal is 1290.
I generally burn around the same amount as my net goal. That way I can still eat a ton of food and lose weight. So far it's working well. I'm losing weight, I feel good, a little sore and a little tired, but I'm enjoying myself. I enjoy lifting and cardio, so I don't want to stop what I'm doing unless there is something bad happening that I'm not aware of.
Has anyone done this long term?
Thoughts?
Thanks
Chris
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No silly questions.
My thought- If it's working, keep doing it. As long as you feed your body, thats all you need to do. I highly doubt you are robbing your body of any nutrient, vitamins, etc.0 -
Yeah, I have no I problem eating all the protein I need this way. I take vitamin supplements as well so there's no problem there.
I wonder though, do I need more than just extra calories when I exercise a lot?0 -
Wow, I would be really hungry eating 1290 calories A day! Today I've eaten around 2,100 so far!! But I guess, do whatever works best for you. Are you able to hit your macros?0
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Maybe not on the day, but eventually. Do it often enough your body will feel threatened and you'll notice rebellion kicking in.
Like eating that low, which is almost minimum for a sedentary woman, causing like what a 2000 calorie deficit, and are you indeed losing 4 lbs of fat each week?
Of course, it might be hard to know if losing fat or muscle mass as most will do in a diet doing wrong exercise and not eating enough protein.
If you aren't losing what math says you should be, then body has already adapted, and you aren't burning what you think.
Or, do you mean your non-exercise goal is 1290, but with your exercise calories correctly added, you get to eat 2790?
Sure, that's fine, I just burned 2000 on long bike ride, and I'm eating back majority leaving an extra smallish deficit.0 -
No, I'm eating around a 1000 deficit. My net is 1290. So if I eat 3000 I need to burn an extra 1700. I eat a lot. Look at my diary.0
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Wow, I would be really hungry eating 1290 calories A day! Today I've eaten around 2,100 so far!! But I guess, do whatever works best for you. Are you able to hit your macros?
Yep. Did you read my first post? I NET 1290. I eat way way way more. Then I burn it off.0 -
What are you doing to burn 1500 calories?0
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Chris, am I understanding that you are eating @2800? There is no problem doing that. If you can survive and adhere on 1290, go for it.0
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Today it was a 30 mile bike ride, a bunch of ab work and stretching. Why do you ask?0
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Chris, am I understanding that you are eating @2800? There is no problem doing that. If you can survive and adhere on 1290, go for it.
That is correct. I'm at 189 and I want to be 175 maybe 170. So I've got around 10 weeks to go.0 -
Today it was a 30 mile bike ride, a bunch of ab work and stretching. Why do you ask?
Was just wondering what had to be done to burn 1500 calories....
I mean that is a lot of calories being used up.0 -
I think it's fine as long as you plan to stay active on a high level after you reach your GW. If you hit your goal weight, keep eating the same amount but pretty much stop exercising...well that's how a lot of former athletes gain a lot of weight. They eat the same after the stop the workouts.0
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Chris, am I understanding that you are eating @2800? There is no problem doing that. If you can survive and adhere on 1290, go for it.
That is correct. I'm at 189 and I want to be 175 maybe 170. So I've got around 10 weeks to go.
It's usually a good idea to lose slower the closer to goal you get with smaller deficits. Doesn't mean everyone does it. It's just that as you get to a lower body fat %, the harder it is to make sure the weight you're losing is a higher percentage of fat to muscle. If you're not worried about extra body recomp once you hit goal, then keep on, keeping on.0 -
Yeah. I'm not looking forward to the day when I need to actually eat less. Maybe I should get some practice in one of these days0
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Eat less! No way!
Well now, don't be cutting down on the fun bike rides just to accomplish that.
Then again you'll burn less when you weigh less.
Then again when you weigh less you go faster.
So that's a wash.
Enjoy your fast downhills while you can, while you won't miss the more difficult uphill at this weight, I miss the downhills. Bike not geared high enough to pedal faster, all mass and gravity.0 -
Sadly, my bike is stationary
But it's easier to take a ride while the kids are napping, so that's a plus. 0 -
I was thinking of doing this myself. Putting in a few hours at the gym before all that good Easter food Sunday!0
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Yeah. I'm not looking forward to the day when I need to actually eat less. Maybe I should get some practice in one of these days
Have you thought of adding weight lifting to your workout??0 -
He does have strength training listed in his exercise diary in addition to his bicycling...Yeah. I'm not looking forward to the day when I need to actually eat less. Maybe I should get some practice in one of these days
Have you thought of adding weight lifting to your workout??0 -
No such thing as a daft question .. but we can supply daft answers
Good for you for doing all that work .. Is it sustainable? - Well I'm sure that your body will left you know when it's not .. Tired Hungry etc....
How's the weight loss going? - If you are not losing then maybe recheck your maths (Inputs and outputs)
Do you feel healthy? If so, it certainly seems to be working for you at the moment .. but just listen to your body .. it will let you know when enough is enough!!
Good on ya and good luck.0 -
I always net around the same and I feel totally fine. I eat dinner after my workout, and I am full without having to eat back all the calories I am supposed to. As long as you feel healthy then go for it.0
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He does have strength training listed in his exercise diary in addition to his bicycling...Yeah. I'm not looking forward to the day when I need to actually eat less. Maybe I should get some practice in one of these days
Have you thought of adding weight lifting to your workout??
Ok, I didn't view his diary initially, I just went by what he posted here.....
So I will step out of this thread.
Good luck mate with your goals.0 -
Yeah. I'm not looking forward to the day when I need to actually eat less. Maybe I should get some practice in one of these days
Have you thought of adding weight lifting to your workout??
I was lifting everyday. Using a three day split. But then I though I'd try a full body every other day approach because I read about it on body building.com. I'm going back to the three day split starting today. I hate not lifting everyday.0 -
No such thing as a daft question .. but we can supply daft answers
Good for you for doing all that work .. Is it sustainable? - Well I'm sure that your body will left you know when it's not .. Tired Hungry etc....
How's the weight loss going? - If you are not losing then maybe recheck your maths (Inputs and outputs)
Do you feel healthy? If so, it certainly seems to be working for you at the moment .. but just listen to your body .. it will let you know when enough is enough!!
Good on ya and good luck.
The weight is coming off and I'm generally only hungry first thing in the morning before I eat breakfast so no problems there. I'm got little kids, so I never get enough sleep0 -
The weight is coming off and I'm generally only hungry first thing in the morning before I eat breakfast so no problems there. I'm got little kids, so I never get enough sleep
Sounds like you've hit on the right system for you - nice one.
Maybe just keep an eye out for anything untoward - and if so - back off for a while.
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So, if I read it right, you are comparing your 1290 calorie input to your TDEE output, minus the workout.
You just have to analyze yourself. How much do you burn in the other 21-23 hours in the day, including sleep? Every body is different, so that is the question you have to ask yourself. Have guards against sending your body into starvation mode, because the body adapts to change rather quickly. It is always looking for the most efficient way to operate. If you make it think that you are going to regularly give it less, it will adhere to that, and you won't lose as much weight after a while.
I am not a physician, so I am just referencing what I have learned from health class and reputable websites. if anyone can confirm or repute this with other information, it would be helpful for me and for the OP.
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So, if I read it right, you are comparing your 1290 calorie input to your TDEE output, minus the workout.
You just have to analyze yourself. How much do you burn in the other 21-23 hours in the day, including sleep? Every body is different, so that is the question you have to ask yourself. Have guards against sending your body into starvation mode, because the body adapts to change rather quickly. It is always looking for the most efficient way to operate. If you make it think that you are going to regularly give it less, it will adhere to that, and you won't lose as much weight after a while.
I am not a physician, so I am just referencing what I have learned from health class and reputable websites. if anyone can confirm or repute this with other information, it would be helpful for me and for the OP.
Josh
So OP is netting that amount, eating back exercise calories so he can indeed enjoy close to, or perhaps more of, what he enjoys.
But you are correct as to what can happen if someone isn't careful. It's not the eating level so much as the amount of deficit from what your level of activity is burning. So in OP's case eating back exercise calories, it would be a matter of how does 1290 compare to sedentary TDEE, which could be a very reasonable deficit depending on size.
And even if that doesn't happen, recovery while in a diet is impaired. Bigger deficit less recovery. Workouts can start providing less benefit for what feels like hard work. But OP is observant of that too.
http://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/truth-about-metabolic-damage
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/heybales/view/reduced-metabolism-tdee-beyond-expected-from-weight-loss-6162510 -
I actually didn't lose weight on my last weigh in. But I did finally tighten my belt today, so I'm gaining muscle. Which is awesome because people keep telling me that it's nearly impossible with a deficit.
In other news I tried to have a cheat day today but I just couldn't let myself do it.
My name is Chris and I have an addiction.0 -
Heybales, very interesting read. It all seems very complicated though.
I was doing some reading on tdee. And I found a three or four calculators. They all had me at around 4000 calories a day! Some even more. That sounds nuts to me. But then again what do I know?0
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