Year of No Sugar Reads Like a How-To Manual for an ED

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  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    And she got to use her children as lab experiments so that she could make a few duckets on a book deal. Well, at least it's not like this sort of disordered demonization of things has been known to have long ten effects of children.....
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.
    I would imagine that if we looked at traditional diets of the longest lived people that actual sugar consumption would not come close to what the typical American consumed....but I haven't looked. Americans are losing ground on the longevity measure.

    Uh oh, we'd better up our sugar consumption! Seriously though, I have the paper I was reading at work - I will come back and post references later on this morning.
    Point was it's not sugar but lifestyle that dictates longevity and overall health and the USA has been headed in the wrong direction for quite a while, regardless of the sugar they consume.

    If I had to guess, it would be our activity level, but you are right. The US is #30-50 depending on which list you're looking at. (There are between 200-250 countries)
  • rprussell2004
    rprussell2004 Posts: 870 Member
    Wow... just wow.

    I'm a keto-er, I avoid sugar like the plague, but ****damn. That's just nuts.

    Besides, as I recently rediscovered on a road trip with the kiddos, waffles with maple syrup are effin' GOOD!

    :smokin:
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
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  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Wow... just wow.

    I'm a keto-er, I avoid sugar like the plague, but ****damn. That's just nuts.

    Besides, as I recently rediscovered on a road trip with the kiddos, waffles with maple syrup are effin' GOOD!

    :smokin:

    This is why I don't keto :)
  • rprussell2004
    rprussell2004 Posts: 870 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Uh - okay - I hate to be THAT GUY - but.. source, please? That flies in the face of every single thing I have read, ever.

    It could be that we've replaced it in ingredient lists with HFCS, "dehydrated cane juice," agave nectar, and so forth, but that's still sugar. It's like my 7yo saying "I didn't HIT my brother! I just TAPPED him!"
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    more evidence that the obesity crisis is more due to lower activity levels than what we eat.... while "abs are made in the kitchen" most people who are physically very active don't tend to overeat (and the exceptions will be people who only overeat a little and their bf% isn't likely to be much above 30%), but people who sit on the couch all day will be a lot more prone to overeating and in having dangerously high bf% levels.

    I know that since I have been completely sidelined from even walking, with plantar faciitis and tendonitis, I am finding it VERY difficult not to over eat. :grumble:

    This is my issue as well. I became extremely obese when I blew my knee completely out about a decade ago. Even now, when I take a lazy weekend it's basically impossible for me to stay under calories.

    I have a tendency to eat like a crazy man, so even when active I have to monitor my intake, but even a moderate level of non exercise physical activity (walks to store, playing with kids, on my feet at work all day) let's me eat quite a bit without going over. I blame less activity on the obesity epidemic more that I point the finger at processed foods
  • rprussell2004
    rprussell2004 Posts: 870 Member
    waffles with maple syrup are effin' GOOD!

    :smokin:

    This is why I don't keto :)

    LOL yeah, I can see that :drinker:

    There are... other... side-effects that I prefer to avoid too, though.

    (And that's all I have to say about THAT... :sick: )
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Uh - okay - I hate to be THAT GUY - but.. source, please? That flies in the face of every single thing I have read, ever.

    It could be that we've replaced it in ingredient lists with HFCS, "dehydrated cane juice," agave nectar, and so forth, but that's still sugar. It's like my 7yo saying "I didn't HIT my brother! I just TAPPED him!"

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2011/07/13/ajcn.111.018366
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Wrong..Currently. Americans eat more sugar then ever before. That fact is recognized by every level of government and most people who do not think sugar consumption is a problem.

    Here's a simplistic paper on it.
    http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/dphs/nhp/adults/documents/sugar.pdf


    Here's another one..

    http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf (page 8)

    This one says that sugar consumption has increased by 39%. I would think it to be higher, but it is a few years old.

    Cane sugar and beet sugar and dextrose decreased, every other type increased.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    A year of no sugar - wow that sounds like fun ( not )
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Wrong..Currently. Americans eat more sugar then ever before. That fact is recognized by every level of government and most people who do not think sugar consumption is a problem.

    Here's a simplistic paper on it.
    http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/dphs/nhp/adults/documents/sugar.pdf


    Here's another one..

    http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf (page 8)

    This one says that sugar consumption has increased by 39%. I would think it to be higher, but it is a few years old.

    Cane sugar and beet sugar and dextrose decreased, every other type increased.

    I'm reasonably certain that we topped out around 1999/2000 and sugar consumption has actually been on the decrease since then
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    Those poor kids
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    Fretting over the fructose content of lemon juice while continuing to eat dates? WTF?

    people who write these kinds of books are allergic to logic.
    +1
  • rprussell2004
    rprussell2004 Posts: 870 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Uh - okay - I hate to be THAT GUY - but.. source, please? That flies in the face of every single thing I have read, ever.

    It could be that we've replaced it in ingredient lists with HFCS, "dehydrated cane juice," agave nectar, and so forth, but that's still sugar. It's like my 7yo saying "I didn't HIT my brother! I just TAPPED him!"

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2011/07/13/ajcn.111.018366

    Well, that's only over the past decade. And it concludes that we're still having more than we ought to. But it's a good trend IMO. Thanks.
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    kids are good at naturally following their appetite and not overeating.

    This is so true! My son can just eat a cookie and walk away from the box. He can eat a few chips, close the bag and walk away. He can eat 2 scoops of ice cream and then not finish the rest of the container. I'm very jealous of that. I can buy him a snack for school lunch and never have to worry about him eating the whole container in one day. The only thing i force him to finish is salad and veggies. Because he need to eat those things. But even that he knows to eat, and does pretty good at eating a healthy portion of them.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Wrong..Currently. Americans eat more sugar then ever before. That fact is recognized by every level of government and most people who do not think sugar consumption is a problem.

    Here's a simplistic paper on it.
    http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/dphs/nhp/adults/documents/sugar.pdf

    "A two ounce chocolate bar has 30 grams of sugar and the same calories as three medium bananas! The bananas are low in fat, high in vitamins and minerals and are fiber-rich. Bananas contain no sugar and will make you feel full longer than a candy
    bar. "

    Bananas actually have 14g of sugar.

    The "problem" with sugar is that
    1) we eat too many calories
    2) Carbs are just energy. Protein and fat are actual biological necessities.

    So, if you want to cut calories, added sugar is a great place to start, because it's "only" about palatability. If you focus on added sugar, you aren't talking about fruit, etc. with naturally occurring sugars as well as lots of other important things.

    However, there's no health BENEFITS to cutting out sugar (barring medical conditions) that aren't accrued from limiting calories a different way.
  • brookemart81
    brookemart81 Posts: 62 Member
    a maddeningly arbitrary yet worryingly fanatical exercise in self-control

    This so perfectly sums up not just the no-sugar thing but so many of the current dieting/health fads. I think a lot of people have a need to believe they can atone for all their dietary "sins" by restricting and flagellating themselves in some way. Sin, repent, and be forgiven. It would be nice if it were that simple- but like that review says, there's no magic bullet that will make you healthy and thin.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    kids are good at naturally following their appetite and not overeating.

    This is so true! My son can just eat a cookie and walk away from the box. He can eat a few chips, close the bag and walk away. He can eat 2 scoops of ice cream and then not finish the rest of the container. I'm very jealous of that. I can buy him a snack for school lunch and never have to worry about him eating the whole container in one day. The only thing i force him to finish is salad and veggies. Because he need to eat those things. But even that he knows to eat, and does pretty good at eating a healthy portion of them.

    I've learned that when my kids beg for cookies, to give them cookies with broccoli and chicken. They'll end up eating everything. If I refuse the cookies, it becomes a cookie-fight.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    a maddeningly arbitrary yet worryingly fanatical exercise in self-control

    This so perfectly sums up not just the no-sugar thing but so many of the current dieting/health fads. I think a lot of people have a need to believe they can atone for all their dietary "sins" by restricting and flagellating themselves in some way. Sin, repent, and be forgiven. It would be nice if it were that simple- but like that review says, there's no magic bullet that will make you healthy and thin.

    Any number of people on this website go from punishing themselves by overeating to punishing themselves by arbitrary dietary restrictions.
  • Dedshot
    Dedshot Posts: 145
    All I can think of if how thankful I am for parents who provided me with healthy food as I growing up... not to mention having parents who were sane.
    Those poor kids.
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Wrong..Currently. Americans eat more sugar then ever before. That fact is recognized by every level of government and most people who do not think sugar consumption is a problem.

    Here's a simplistic paper on it.
    http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/dphs/nhp/adults/documents/sugar.pdf


    Here's another one..

    http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf (page 8)

    This one says that sugar consumption has increased by 39%. I would think it to be higher, but it is a few years old.

    Cane sugar and beet sugar and dextrose decreased, every other type increased.

    I'm reasonably certain that we topped out around 1999/2000 and sugar consumption has actually been on the decrease since then

    According to the NY times, in 2012 they changed the method used to calculate sugar consumption which resulted in a perceived decrease. They now "adjust for waste" which cannot be accurately calculated. Most of the number are based off estimates, as people notoriously under estimate what they consume, but to guess at how much foods with added sugar are purchased, but thrown away is to skew the numbers even more.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/27/business/us-cuts-estimate-of-sugar-intake-of-typical-american.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    Even with that.. there this from the USDA website stating added sugar consumption is on the rise.. last updated March 2014

    http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/jun00/sugar0600.htm
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Wrong..Currently. Americans eat more sugar then ever before. That fact is recognized by every level of government and most people who do not think sugar consumption is a problem.

    Here's a simplistic paper on it.
    http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/dphs/nhp/adults/documents/sugar.pdf


    Here's another one..

    http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf (page 8)

    This one says that sugar consumption has increased by 39%. I would think it to be higher, but it is a few years old.

    Cane sugar and beet sugar and dextrose decreased, every other type increased.

    I'm reasonably certain that we topped out around 1999/2000 and sugar consumption has actually been on the decrease since then

    According to the NY times, in 2012 they changed the method used to calculate sugar consumption which resulted in a perceived decrease. They now "adjust for waste" which cannot be accurately calculated. Most of the number are based off estimates, as people notoriously under estimate what they consume, but to guess at how much foods with added sugar are purchased, but thrown away is to skew the numbers even more.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/27/business/us-cuts-estimate-of-sugar-intake-of-typical-american.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    Even with that.. there this from the USDA website stating added sugar consumption is on the rise.. last updated March 2014

    http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/jun00/sugar0600.htm

    Table 49

    http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/sugar-and-sweeteners-yearbook-tables.aspx#.U1Uq8XZZjq4
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Wrong..Currently. Americans eat more sugar then ever before. That fact is recognized by every level of government and most people who do not think sugar consumption is a problem.

    Here's a simplistic paper on it.
    http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/dphs/nhp/adults/documents/sugar.pdf


    Here's another one..

    http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf (page 8)

    This one says that sugar consumption has increased by 39%. I would think it to be higher, but it is a few years old.

    Cane sugar and beet sugar and dextrose decreased, every other type increased.

    I'm reasonably certain that we topped out around 1999/2000 and sugar consumption has actually been on the decrease since then

    According to the NY times, in 2012 they changed the method used to calculate sugar consumption which resulted in a perceived decrease. They now "adjust for waste" which cannot be accurately calculated. Most of the number are based off estimates, as people notoriously under estimate what they consume, but to guess at how much foods with added sugar are purchased, but thrown away is to skew the numbers even more.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/27/business/us-cuts-estimate-of-sugar-intake-of-typical-american.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    Even with that.. there this from the USDA website stating added sugar consumption is on the rise.. last updated March 2014

    http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/jun00/sugar0600.htm

    It was published in 2000, using 1994-1996 data.
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    kids are good at naturally following their appetite and not overeating.

    This is so true! My son can just eat a cookie and walk away from the box. He can eat a few chips, close the bag and walk away. He can eat 2 scoops of ice cream and then not finish the rest of the container. I'm very jealous of that. I can buy him a snack for school lunch and never have to worry about him eating the whole container in one day. The only thing i force him to finish is salad and veggies. Because he need to eat those things. But even that he knows to eat, and does pretty good at eating a healthy portion of them.

    I've learned that when my kids beg for cookies, to give them cookies with broccoli and chicken. They'll end up eating everything. If I refuse the cookies, it becomes a cookie-fight.

    Good plan! My son is a teen now, so the cookies just sit in the cabinet. I don't have to monitor them.. we've had the same box in there for 2 weeks now. I do have to monitor soda (easy I don't buy it lol) and other food that present as healthy and really are not. When you raise them right, they learn how to eat and as a result t they eat healthy just because. haha he will even ask for my mock pizza (made with eggplant) because it's sooo freaking good! My son can eat a tremendous amount of food., but he's thin because he eat healthier then I do. :)
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Wrong..Currently. Americans eat more sugar then ever before. That fact is recognized by every level of government and most people who do not think sugar consumption is a problem.

    Here's a simplistic paper on it.
    http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/dphs/nhp/adults/documents/sugar.pdf


    Here's another one..

    http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf (page 8)

    This one says that sugar consumption has increased by 39%. I would think it to be higher, but it is a few years old.

    Cane sugar and beet sugar and dextrose decreased, every other type increased.

    I'm reasonably certain that we topped out around 1999/2000 and sugar consumption has actually been on the decrease since then

    According to the NY times, in 2012 they changed the method used to calculate sugar consumption which resulted in a perceived decrease. They now "adjust for waste" which cannot be accurately calculated. Most of the number are based off estimates, as people notoriously under estimate what they consume, but to guess at how much foods with added sugar are purchased, but thrown away is to skew the numbers even more.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/27/business/us-cuts-estimate-of-sugar-intake-of-typical-american.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    Even with that.. there this from the USDA website stating added sugar consumption is on the rise.. last updated March 2014

    http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/jun00/sugar0600.htm

    Table 49

    http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/sugar-and-sweeteners-yearbook-tables.aspx#.U1Uq8XZZjq4

    That's still insane.
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    There is also this.. showing we are increasing

    http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/sugar-and-sweeteners-yearbook-tables.aspx#.U1UtB1VdWnk
    Table 20a

    And even if there is a valid slight decrease we are still leaps and bounds above recommended daily allowance. that's if the decrease is real and not due to the change is calculation methods.
  • cathipa
    cathipa Posts: 2,991 Member
    I definitely feel bad for those kids. In general I feel bad for any kids with extreme diets either because of food allergies or something their parents impose on them.

    She's right, the social isolation is the worst. Imagine those kids trying to go to a birthday party? Out for a play date at another kids house? I remember a kid in my class who had some sort of extreme food allergy. His mom always had to be in tow at all field trips and birthday parties to make sure he didn't eat something that could kill him and pack him some alternate food.

    The only difference is fructose won't kill you, but a true food allergy could. As a parent of a kid with a food allergy it is a scary thing knowing something hiding in food could kill your child. I don't socially isolate my kid, but I also don't want to have a reaction happen on another parent's watch and make them responsible.
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Wrong..Currently. Americans eat more sugar then ever before. That fact is recognized by every level of government and most people who do not think sugar consumption is a problem.

    Here's a simplistic paper on it.
    http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/dphs/nhp/adults/documents/sugar.pdf


    Here's another one..

    http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf (page 8)

    This one says that sugar consumption has increased by 39%. I would think it to be higher, but it is a few years old.

    Cane sugar and beet sugar and dextrose decreased, every other type increased.

    I'm reasonably certain that we topped out around 1999/2000 and sugar consumption has actually been on the decrease since then

    According to the NY times, in 2012 they changed the method used to calculate sugar consumption which resulted in a perceived decrease. They now "adjust for waste" which cannot be accurately calculated. Most of the number are based off estimates, as people notoriously under estimate what they consume, but to guess at how much foods with added sugar are purchased, but thrown away is to skew the numbers even more.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/27/business/us-cuts-estimate-of-sugar-intake-of-typical-american.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    Even with that.. there this from the USDA website stating added sugar consumption is on the rise.. last updated March 2014

    http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/jun00/sugar0600.htm

    Table 49

    http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/sugar-and-sweeteners-yearbook-tables.aspx#.U1Uq8XZZjq4

    table 49 shows an increase from 2011 and i'd bet there's another one for following years. with a small decease from previous years. It's still nearly double what we consumed 50 years ago. It's still ridiculous. The worst of it is that there is no need for most of it. We don't need the added sugar is so many things that have it.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Americans are actually consuming LESS sugar than we did 50 years ago, and we are living longer than ever. Countries that consume the most sugar (we are not one of them) have the longest lived peoples. Although I doubt sugar contributes to longevity, the 'we are eating more sugar than ever and our health is worse than ever' is nothing but dogma and, is completely false.

    Wrong..Currently. Americans eat more sugar then ever before. That fact is recognized by every level of government and most people who do not think sugar consumption is a problem.

    Here's a simplistic paper on it.
    http://www.dhhs.state.nh.us/dphs/nhp/adults/documents/sugar.pdf


    Here's another one..

    http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf (page 8)

    This one says that sugar consumption has increased by 39%. I would think it to be higher, but it is a few years old.

    Cane sugar and beet sugar and dextrose decreased, every other type increased.

    I'm reasonably certain that we topped out around 1999/2000 and sugar consumption has actually been on the decrease since then

    According to the NY times, in 2012 they changed the method used to calculate sugar consumption which resulted in a perceived decrease. They now "adjust for waste" which cannot be accurately calculated. Most of the number are based off estimates, as people notoriously under estimate what they consume, but to guess at how much foods with added sugar are purchased, but thrown away is to skew the numbers even more.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/27/business/us-cuts-estimate-of-sugar-intake-of-typical-american.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    Even with that.. there this from the USDA website stating added sugar consumption is on the rise.. last updated March 2014

    http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/jun00/sugar0600.htm

    Table 49

    http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/sugar-and-sweeteners-yearbook-tables.aspx#.U1Uq8XZZjq4

    table 49 shows an increase from 2011 and i'd bet there's another one for following years. with a small decease from previous years. It's still nearly double what we consumed 50 years ago. It's still ridiculous. The worst of it is that there is no need for most of it. We don't need the added sugar is so many things that have it.

    Sorry table 50, per capita intake, peaked in 1999

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