Endomondo Or MFP for calorie burns?
teshiburu
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Simply put which calculations are more accurate?
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MFP's calorie burns are an estimation. they don't have any accurate data to base it on. an accurate burn is based on your heart rate, vo2max, etc.0
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Neither is perfect, but I know that MFP underestimates most of my burns so I use Endomondo. I don't eat back exercise cals though so it doesn't matter. I prefer my HRM but it got left with the stuff to come later when I moved to Japan. To be safe, I'd go with the lower count.0
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Simply put which calculations are more accurate?
For Running and cycling buy a Heart Rate monitor, they are more accurate, not 100% accurate, more like 80% accurate for most of the people who use them. to be more accurate you need one that is designed for the sport you use it for.0 -
Both are just estimates. One could be more accurate for me, but not for someone else.
Since they are just estimates, the important thing is to be consistent. Pick one, and use it for a month our so along with your other logging. Then evaluate your progress and adjust as necessary.0 -
For me the best way to use MFP is to set my daily weight loss goal to be 0, but not eat back exercise calories. Exercise creates deficit and weight loss. I eat at least the base number of calories.
I find that MFP's numbers are generally within a hundred calories of other methods. If that 100 calories is the difference between weight loss and not, then I'm doing it wrong0 -
I trust endomondo synced up to an HRM with a chest strap more than MFP. MFP overestimates for me.0
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I trust endomondo synced up to an HRM with a chest strap more than MFP. MFP overestimates for me.
Does endomondo adjust the workout then using HR?0 -
Yes. You can either get an HRM that syncs using bluetooth to accomplish this, or you can manually enter the max and avg. heart rates from your workout as well as length of time into the endomondo website (if your HRM doesn't have bluetooth capabilities and can't connect to your phone with endo app).0
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Can you recommend a bluetooth HRM that works? all of the ones on endomondo store are excruciatingly painfully priced I may have given up the unhealthy foods, but healthy ones cost enough not to mention spending 60£ on a HRM lol0
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Can you recommend a bluetooth HRM that works? all of the ones on endomondo store are excruciatingly painfully priced I may have given up the unhealthy foods, but healthy ones cost enough not to mention spending 60£ on a HRM lol
Yeah, I'm not willing to spend the £60 required for a strap either.
Like JacksonPT said above, both are guesses (including the HRM option), so it's best to just try and be consistent in your methods. You will then be able to adjust accordingly based on results (long term and scientific, not emotional weekly madness).
That which is measured, can be improved.0 -
the problem with endomondo is that it relies on the accuracy of the GPS signal. yesterday, according to endomondo my run included a short dip in the river i was running next to...
i think possibly the best thing to do is go for an average figure between the two. or use something mapmyrun and plot your route out manually. time yourself, work out your speed (i find fingers are useful here) and then fiddle around with the exercise entry thing until you get something that probably represents your burn with some degree of accuracy
slightly frustrating scenario!0 -
Thanks for all the comments, all taken in and will work from them.
I do however have to ask with all these fitness apps and such - why is it so hard to calculate an accurate burn of calories? what factors need to be looked at that arent?
also - I have a watch and strap HRM would that help if i manually add the info into endomondo? will the 2 figures together provide a better result?0 -
Thanks for all the comments, all taken in and will work from them.
I do however have to ask with all these fitness apps and such - why is it so hard to calculate an accurate burn of calories? what factors need to be looked at that arent?
also - I have a watch and strap HRM would that help if i manually add the info into endomondo? will the 2 figures together provide a better result?
It's hard to calculate because every workout is different, and every person is different. If I go for a run, it's not the same as you going for a run. The course might be different. The intensity might be different. Our body weight might be different. I might be sprinting hill repeats, you could be jogging a flat course. There are too many variables. In actuality, the only variables that affect calorie burn are workload and the person's weight. Weight is pretty straight forward, but workload can vary HUUUGELY depending on the workout, and that's the crux of the problem when people start wanting accurate calorie burns.
Most people think HRMs are more accurate than almost any other method. While there is some degree of truth to it (assuming the HRM is setup correctly), it's still just an esimate that can be just as far off as any other estimate.
I go back to what I said before. Pick one way of estimating and do that consistently. Measure your results after a month or so then adjust as necessary.0 -
Thanks for all the comments, all taken in and will work from them.
I do however have to ask with all these fitness apps and such - why is it so hard to calculate an accurate burn of calories? what factors need to be looked at that arent?
also - I have a watch and strap HRM would that help if i manually add the info into endomondo? will the 2 figures together provide a better result?
C = (0.6309 x H + 0.09036 x W + 0.2017 x A -- 55.0969) x T / 4.184. C is the number of calories that you burned, H is your average heart rate, W is your weight, A is your age and T is the length of your exercise session in minutes.
HRM Calculate for shorter periods of T with greater accuracy so instead of calculating it once over say 35 minutes, HRM calculate it for say 1 minute segments and add all 35 calculations up
Strava/Endomondo and MFP don't even factor in effort it's just a simple time distance calculation. Strava /Endomondo doesn't even take into account wind speed, tyres Body mass, If you're on a bike I doubt if it even calculates for bit of a ride where you're not pedalling, IE descending downhill.0 -
Can you recommend a bluetooth HRM that works? all of the ones on endomondo store are excruciatingly painfully priced I may have given up the unhealthy foods, but healthy ones cost enough not to mention spending 60£ on a HRM lol
I honestly only have experience with the one on the endomondo website, but there are other on Amazon you can look into. They typically tell you in the ad if the bluetooth will work with your current phone and also if it will sync with endomondo. But, you could just get a decent HRM without bluetooth and manually enter the numbers. I started out doing it that way.0 -
your equation is pants0
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