Organic food ind engaged in a public disinformation campaign

I thought it was a religion / cult.

We actually have to buy certain vegetables organic because my husband has bad reactions (like breathing issues) when he eats those in non-organic.

I'm not saying everyone should...but it worries me that he can have NO reaction to organic green peppers and asthmatic issues with regular green peppers. And people say "there isn't really a difference". I call that some sort of difference.

Yes, but when I buy organic food (local if I can afford it) or choose to forgo meat in a meal or two, it's for environmental reasons not because I believe that it has a higher nutritional value. The second article that you linked actually discusses that point nicely. It also points out the difference between companies using the word "natural" (marketing tool with no meaning) and the "USDA organic" label (which has rigorous standards).

lot has changed since 2000 bub...

I thought "organic" meant that a person could really enjoy se...
oh... nevermind.

We actually have to buy certain vegetables organic because my husband has bad reactions (like breathing issues) when he eats those in non-organic.

I'm not saying everyone should...but it worries me that he can have NO reaction to organic green peppers and asthmatic issues with regular green peppers. And people say "there isn't really a difference". I call that some sort of difference.

Sounds like he has an allergy. So for him, obviously, he should avoid non-organic green peppers. They don't bother me, so I won't.

I am, however, allergic to whatever is floating around in the air right now. But since I can't not breathe, I'm stuck dealing with it.

also, skepticism about big Ag and the dairy industry's advertising motivies is good, while skeptism about the organic industry's motives is bad...

if you use the word "organic" correctly in its actual biological meaning, then all food is organic. In fact non-organic food is an oxymoron. Unless you eat rocks or something....

well, that's just a croc...

Tagging to catch up later.

And to add this: Most farmers producing organics are just doing it for the money. They're businessmen just like ConAgra, Monsanto, and Bayer.

if you use the word "organic" correctly in its actual biological meaning, then all food is organic. In fact non-organic food is an oxymoron. Unless you eat rocks or something....

I was JUST saying this to my husband at the store yesterday! Well, I've said it a bunch of times because the label "organic food" sounds so stupid to me. All produce is organic! Flour is organic! SUGAR is organic.

Salt though...

Wait. Think if I labeled salt as "organic" and charged more for it, people would buy it? They probably would.

it already exists. The world is full of oxymorons...



eta: I'm trying to make the image work I can't see it.... if you can't see the image google image search organic salt

New Zealand...nice...

I guess we don't have salt in our oceans domestically...

what the.... that's one of the images I tried to post but it wouldn't work :sad: there are some others as well

New Zealand...nice...

I guess we don't have salt in our oceans domestically...

what the.... that's one of the images I tried to post but it wouldn't work :sad: there are some others as well

Well, that was my last good idea. Off to commit Seppuku.

Because politicians never lie...
And there's no financial incentive for this kind of thing by companies that make billions off selling their products.... oh, hang on.

Meh, you're entitled you your opinion, I'm entitiled to mine. Pesticides aren't good for you, I'd prefer not to ingest them. Fossil fuel based agriculture is unsustainable. Nitrate runoff is poisoning rivers and oceans. Using chemicals, fertilisers etc, versus using organic principles makes a huge difference to the local and wider ecosystems. And then there's the people in developing countries who have to use the chemicals without appropriate protection and develop horrible illnesses and have babies with birth deformities. And so on, and on, and on... but I can't be bothered. Like I said, you're entitled to your opinion. Personally I disagree with you.

Because politicians never lie...
And there's no financial incentive for this kind of thing by companies that make billions off selling their products.... oh, hang on.

Meh, you're entitled you your opinion, I'm entitiled to mine. Pesticides aren't good for you, I'd prefer not to ingest them. Fossil fuel based agriculture is unsustainable. Nitrate runoff is poisoning rivers and oceans. Using chemicals, fertilisers etc, versus using organic principles makes a huge difference to the local and wider ecosystems. And then there's the people in developing countries who have to use the chemicals without appropriate protection and develop horrible illnesses and have babies with birth deformities. And so on, and on, and on... but I can't be bothered. Like I said, you're entitled to your opinion. Personally I disagree with you.

What is "fossil fuel based agriculture"? Are you suggesting farmers go back to plowing behind horses? I agree that the other things you mentioned are problems but on the other hand, we have 7 billion people to feed on this planet and we can't do that with 19th century farming practices.