Bill to ban Connecticut Childcares from serving whole milk.

QuietBloom
QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
A new bill making its way through the Connecticut legislature would ban daycare centers and home childcare providers from serving whole milk or 2% milk to the kids in their care. Setting aside for a moment the sheer lunacy of the proposed law's premise, I'd like to point out that it's also based on an incredibly faulty understanding of nutrition.

I rarely drink dairy, but when I do I reach for whole or 2% milk before skim or nonfat varieties. Whole milk is the least processed. Skim milk—you know, the "healthy" option everyone was supposed to switch to at some point in the 1990s—is made by separating and removing the fat from whole milk, which leaves the remaining product a shade of bluish-gray. To make it look palatable, and replace lost protein, milk powder is added back in, via a high-temp, high-pressure process that causes the cholesterol in skim milk to oxidize. Oxidized cholesterol is carcinogenic and has been shown in to promote arterial plaque formation. Oh, and because skimming the fat strips milk of crucial vitamins A and D, synthetic (i.e., less bioavailable) versions of these vitamins are added back into the milk—a sort of pointless procedure anyway, considering our bodies can't absorb these fat-soluble vitamins properly without fat.

Commercial whole milk, while still somewhat processed, is a lot closer to cow's milk in its natural state. No oxidized cholesterol, no need to dye it back to a natural-looking color or add synthetic vitamins. Yes, it has nearly double the calories of nonfat milk—150 per cup, compared to about 80 calories in a cup of skim. But calories aren't everything. Whole milk is richer in protein and fats, which promote satiety and fullness, and feeling full and satisfied longer makes people (including kids) less likely to overeat later.

That's not the only thing fats in milk are good for. They also help slow the release of sugars into the blood stream. Milk is actually more full of sugar than many people realize (in the form of lactose), so this is a helpful feature—almost as if the nutrients in milk naturally complement one another! And though the fat in milk is mostly the saturated kind, it's not necessarily the same type of fat you're getting from French fries and bacon. There are different types of saturated fats, which function different metabolically.

But enough biochemistry and abstraction—doesn't it just make sense that giving kids milk with less fat and less calories would help them avoid unhealthy weight gain? Well, good thing we have research looking at exactly this question in actual kids. A longitudinal Harvard study, published in 2005, found drinking skim or 1% milk was associated with weight gain in 9- to 14-year-olds, while drinking whole or 2% milk was not. A 2013 study found the same associations for pre-schoolers.

So in addition to infringing on personal liberty, the Connecticut bill—"An Act Concerning Nutrition Standards for Child Care Settings"—is based more on some legislator's harebrained idea of how nutrition and diet work than any actual nutrition or dietary science.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/24/conn-bill-would-ban-whole-milk-for-kids
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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Besides the fact that skim milk is absolutely disgusting?

    I can't imagine this making it- but god help us if it does.

    I do not understand why people are so fat-phobic. It makes me sad for these people pushing this crap through. And even more sad for their kids!
  • Platform_Heels
    Platform_Heels Posts: 388 Member
    I must say that I'm not shocked that Connecticut is thinking of doing this. They'll probably throw in a fine or a tax some where in the bill if it's found that the day cares are serving the "fatter" milk too.
  • Wait.... as an early childhood educator, I'm confused. Why would this even be a thing?
  • Excellent post.

    Edited to include:

    I guess they did not consider the importance of dietary fat in myelin formation and neuronal conductance...This process, and hence the requirement for adequate dietary fat, continues well into adolescence...
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    I must say that I'm not shocked that Connecticut is thinking of doing this. They'll probably throw in a fine or a tax some where in the bill if it's found that the day cares are serving the "fatter" milk too.


    As funny as that may sound to some, it's probably true.

    As I live in CT, I'll be writing my legislators.
  • BigT555
    BigT555 Posts: 2,067 Member
    yea this is ridiculous, there are plenty of other things that they could cut out that are much much worse than whole milk
  • Platform_Heels
    Platform_Heels Posts: 388 Member
    I must say that I'm not shocked that Connecticut is thinking of doing this. They'll probably throw in a fine or a tax some where in the bill if it's found that the day cares are serving the "fatter" milk too.


    As funny as that may sound to some, it's probably true.

    As I live in CT, I'll be writing my legislators.

    I do too hence the reason I said it. I'm sure Malloy will push the bill through.

    My question is what happens if a parent sends their kid to day care with a container of whole or 2% milk because that's what they want them to drink? Will it get taken away from them?
  • chriamaria
    chriamaria Posts: 76 Member
    Appalling! Young children need fat in their diet. Especially before the age of 2.
  • 4theking
    4theking Posts: 1,196 Member
    They just don't understand and that is so very frustrating!
  • cnlargent
    cnlargent Posts: 199 Member
    If I wanted myself or my child to drink water, we would. 2% at the very lowest, but whole is where its at for us.
  • chloematilds
    chloematilds Posts: 111 Member
    an overreaction to the fat content in milk. so, are they gonna give them soda instead?
  • scraver2003
    scraver2003 Posts: 526 Member
    I must say that I'm not shocked that Connecticut is thinking of doing this. They'll probably throw in a fine or a tax some where in the bill if it's found that the day cares are serving the "fatter" milk too.


    As funny as that may sound to some, it's probably true.

    As I live in CT, I'll be writing my legislators.

    I do too hence the reason I said it. I'm sure Malloy will push the bill through.

    My question is what happens if a parent sends their kid to day care with a container of whole or 2% milk because that's what they want them to drink? Will it get taken away from them?

    I was wondering the same thing - what if I send my boys to daycare with whole milk?

    It's so stupid.
  • Josalinn
    Josalinn Posts: 1,066 Member
    If it does get passed (yikes!) then their will probably be some sort of waiver you can sign that says you want your kid to get whole milk. I mean if kids can get waived for not getting vaccinations because of religious reasons, I would think that it would be possible get permission for your kid to drink whole milk.

    It seems a bit backwards. Parents should determine what their kids consume not the daycare or schools. Schools should provide healthy lunch options, don't get me wrong, but the parents should look at the school lunches and decide if they want to give their kids money for it. Likewise, parents should be able to tell daycares that they do/don't want their kids to drink x% milk.

    When I was in 1st grade the teacher took a candy bar away from a fat kid and reminded him that he wasn't supposed to be eating that and that his parents had him on a diet. The parents asked her to keep an eye on him and she obliged. You couldn't do that today but ya know I thought it was interesting. (Also I really didn't like him, he was mean to me and wouldn't share the markers with me because my mom was a single mom, great kid.) As a side note, its sad I remember this >.<
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,261 Member
    Fat free milk is not a particular healthy option and to which this panel obviously have no clue about.......this is worrying.
  • PJPrimrose
    PJPrimrose Posts: 916 Member
    Politicians/ bureaucrats making a fuss over stuff that doesn't matter to divert attention away from real issues. It makes them feel/look useful while actually accomplishing nothing.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    yea this is ridiculous, there are plenty of other things that they could cut out that are much much worse than whole milk

    Or even 2%! Idiocracy at it's finest.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    This seems rather odd, since saturated fat is more important for young children than for any other group. I'm surprised more pediatricians are not weighing in. I wonder what prompted the bill.

    But one point in the OP doesn't seem correct, at least not in my area. It's very hard to find whole milk that has not been fortified with vitamin D. In fact, most people around here refer to whole milk as "vitamin D" milk. Because of this, many even think that ONLY whole milk is fortified.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    I don't understand this bill, seeing how very young children really need that fat during their developing years.
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    Excellent post.

    Edited to include:

    I guess they did not consider the importance of dietary fat in myelin formation and neuronal conductance...This process, and hence the requirement for adequate dietary fat, continues well into adolescence...

    It has always been my understanding that children, particularly young children, are supposed to drink whole milk for this very reason. One of my coworkers at the Starbucks I used to work at would get quietly upset every time a parent ordered his/her child skim milk, particularly if the child was under 5.
  • lizafava2
    lizafava2 Posts: 185
    I think this must be a ploy to get more fat for butter-making since butter consumption is on the rise. Only partly kidding....

    My kids don't drink (other mammals) milk and never have. It caused quite a stir at school when they refused to drink it and I had to pretend they were allergic so that they would stop serving it to them and making them "have one sip". Milk consumption in school is highly political, non-scientific and regulated already. Lots of lobby dollars going into these laws.
  • Though I understand the desire to keep the milk that contains the most nutrients, I have to wonder ... where is the call to action? Where can those who would be affected by this go to sign a petition or contact the legislators?
  • samamps88
    samamps88 Posts: 52


    I rarely drink dairy, but when I do I reach for whole or 2% milk before skim or nonfat varieties. Whole milk is the least processed. Skim milk—you know, the "healthy" option everyone was supposed to switch to at some point in the 1990s—is made by separating and removing the fat from whole milk, which leaves the remaining product a shade of bluish-gray. To make it look palatable, and replace lost protein, milk powder is added back in, via a high-temp, high-pressure process that causes the cholesterol in skim milk to oxidize. Oxidized cholesterol is carcinogenic and has been shown in to promote arterial plaque formation. Oh, and because skimming the fat strips milk of crucial vitamins A and D, synthetic (i.e., less bioavailable) versions of these vitamins are added back into the milk—a sort of pointless procedure anyway, considering our bodies can't absorb these fat-soluble vitamins properly without fat.

    http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/24/conn-bill-would-ban-whole-milk-for-kids

    Not sure exactly the way they do it in the us but here in the UK, all milk no matter whether whole or fat free is processed and the entirety of the fat content is removed and then depending what it is going to be ie whole, 2% or 0% the exact amount of fat is added back in to ensure that every batch is the same, extra stuff ie protein and milk powder is not added back in. Like I said that is UK I know the US are different in the way they process foods
  • misskris78
    misskris78 Posts: 136 Member
    Interesting. I buy whole milk for my kids and use it for cooking. No one has a weight problem. It's quite the opposite - my 4 year old is a string bean.

    As a side note, I buy milk produced by a local (although not particularly small) dairy and the whole milk does not have vitamin D added.
  • Where I live they tried to ban certain types of cheese because they were high in fat and sugar. Because those 8-16 grams of cheese (about 50 calories) a day is the reason why the kids are getting obese.
  • darrensurrey
    darrensurrey Posts: 3,942 Member
    Besides the fact that skim milk is absolutely disgusting?

    I can't imagine this making it- but god help us if it does.

    I do not understand why people are so fat-phobic. It makes me sad for these people pushing this crap through. And even more sad for their kids!

    BECAUSE FAT MAKES YOU FAT!!!!!!



















    :bigsmile:

    Tells you all you need to know about the authorities if they are clueless about things we do know about.
  • DawnieB1977
    DawnieB1977 Posts: 4,248 Member
    Wow, are they going to start feeding the kids weight watchers yogurts and low fat cheese as well?

    We buy full fat milk for our kids, neither has a weight problem. In fact we drink it ourselves! I sometimes buy skim milk for myself, but my husband moans at me saying it's less healthy.

    I live in England, not sure if that makes any difference to the quality of the milk.
  • Shawshankcan
    Shawshankcan Posts: 900 Member
    Same flavor of stupidity, in Manitoba, a woman was fines 10 dollars for not packing a grain in their child's lunch. This caused the day care provided to give the child ritz crackers. What was the lunch? Left over roast beef, carrots and potatoes.
  • ChristineS_51
    ChristineS_51 Posts: 872 Member
    In Australia it says on lower fat varieties "Not suitable for children ... " - I think it does have an age mentioned but seems crazy to force children to drink skim milk which is pretty awful - unless it is the long-lift UHT stuff in which case it seems less watery. Ban junk food yes but not milk :noway:
  • tethar
    tethar Posts: 28 Member
    So I have a daughter. She's six now, but even at a younger age, I knew she had a growth hormone disorder. She receives a daily injection for it, but she is still small and grossly underweight.

    The school is already telling her about healthy food, vegetables, stuff like that, and to stay away from ice cream, etc. The problem is, underweight and not healthy, she needs high calorie foods. I don't like whole milk, I buy 1% for myself (I grew up in the 90s, it's what I grew up on) but whole for her because she needs it. If she is getting full on veggies and water and not getting enough fats, proteins, and calories, then she is not going to be healthy. And I know she is not the only child that is underweight and needs more in their diet.

    Not every child is the same, and treating every child as if they are the same, and different people don't have different dietary needs, is a recipe for disaster.
  • Lonestar5775
    Lonestar5775 Posts: 740 Member
    Thanks for posting this very informative and detailed explanation. It truly is time we as a people stand up to this sort of nonsense.