please help! water and sodium questions!

Well, I've come to realize that I have been taking in too much sodium (in my opinion.) Not only that, but I don't drink NEARLY enough water. OK, so I really didn't drink water at all... I'm trying to remedy that as of today. My question is, won't i retain water from all the sodium?!? I would hate to step on the scale day after day and feel so bloated all the time...
Or does it not work that way? If I do retain water, will it eventually... you know... work itself out? I do want to work on cutting back the sodium, it's just that it's in EVERYTHING. And usually in larger quantities than I need!
Any advise or tips would be appreciated!

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  • knra_grl
    knra_grl Posts: 1,566 Member
    No - drinking lots of water will make you pee more - the salt will eventually leave your system - any fluids count towards your water intake, but I have found that I really like the Dasani water enhancers when I am not in the mood to drink water - whatever it takes and the Dasani ones taste like kool aid (especially the grape one) :drinker:
  • wilsoje74
    wilsoje74 Posts: 1,720 Member
    Drinking water doesn't cause you to retain water, it does the opposite. Try to limit packaged foods and restaurant food to help decrease sodium
  • killervogel5
    killervogel5 Posts: 24 Member
    Drinking water doesn't cause you to retain water, it does the opposite. Try to limit packaged foods and restaurant food to help decrease sodium
    ^^ This.

    I try to flush my system of excess salt by "over-watering" twice a week. I don't recommend that for everyone, especially if you don't work in an environment where you can use the restroom (very) frequently, but it works for me.
  • onefortyone
    onefortyone Posts: 531 Member
    Yeah, the more water you drink, the less you retain - because drinking & peeing lots keeps your system hydrated/flushed clean I guess! I know that if I have a sodium-heavy meal/day, I increase my water that day and the day after and it often barely makes a blip on the scale. It helps that high levels of sodium makes me suuuper thirsty anyway!
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,336 Member
    For the vast majority of people, their body regulates the amount of water and sodium it retains quite well especially if a person is consuming more or less the same amount all the time. Water retention due to sodium is more often a result of eating a large amount more than a person usually consumes which challenges the normal mechanisms to regulate levels of sodium and water.

    If you have been consuming a lot of sodium then cut your amounts, you will find you will lose that water rather quickly. If you at the same time increase water consumption, you will speed that process along.

    In other words, cut your sodium consumption and increase your fluid consumption especially water, and you will not retain water.
  • CA_Underdog
    CA_Underdog Posts: 733 Member
    I don't drink NEARLY enough water. OK, so I really didn't drink water at all...
    You are alive, so you're obviously eating foods or drinking liquids that contain water and hydrate you. If you're concerned, check the color of your pee. It's a great indicator and the ideal is straw-colored.

    http://health.clevelandclinic.org/2013/10/what-the-color-of-your-urine-says-about-you-infographic/
    My question is, won't i retain later from all the sodium?!?
    Yes, excessive sodium intake will cause you to retain water. That's true whether you drink water directly, beverages that contain water, or eat foods that contain water.
    it's just that it's in EVERYTHING. And usually in larger quantities than I need!
    It tends to mostly be in processed foods. There's a great thread on eating low-sodium you may enjoy here--

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1272206-low-sodium-food-suggestions
  • cadaver0usb0nes
    cadaver0usb0nes Posts: 151 Member
    For the vast majority of people, their body regulates the amount of water and sodium it retains quite well especially if a person is consuming more or less the same amount all the time. Water retention due to sodium is more often a result of eating a large amount more than a person usually consumes which challenges the normal mechanisms to regulate levels of sodium and water.

    If you have been consuming a lot of sodium then cut your amounts, you will find you will lose that water rather quickly. If you at the same time increase water consumption, you will speed that process along.

    In other words, cut your sodium consumption and increase your fluid consumption especially water, and you will not retain water.

    This. CUT SODIUM AND DRINK MORE WATER. You should have about half your body weight in ounces of water per day. Try making your own foods because processed and pre-packaged foods and restaurant foods have a ton of sodium.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    No - drinking lots of water will make you pee more - the salt will eventually leave your system - any fluids count towards your water intake, but I have found that I really like the Dasani water enhancers when I am not in the mood to drink water - whatever it takes and the Dasani ones taste like kool aid (especially the grape one) :drinker:

    I got myself a SodaStream and purchase the flavor essences instead of soda mixes so I get much of my water from fizzy water (aka LaCroix, Klarbrunn, etc). No problems getting my minimum in these days. I occasionally will use the flavor enhancers too if I want something a little closer to soda.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    Well, I've come to realize that I have been taking in too much sodium (in my opinion.) Not only that, but I don't drink NEARLY enough water. OK, so I really didn't drink water at all... I'm trying to remedy that as of today. My question is, won't i retain water from all the sodium?!? I would hate to step on the scale day after day and feel so bloated all the time...
    Or does it not work that way? If I do retain water, will it eventually... you know... work itself out? I do want to work on cutting back the sodium, it's just that it's in EVERYTHING. And usually in larger quantities than I need!
    Any advise or tips would be appreciated!

    Your body needs to maintain a steadystate ionic concentration (dissolved salts). The two components of this are water and salt (sodium).

    What does this mean for you. Well, if you have lots of sodium in your diet your body will need to balance that out with dissolving it in additional water to maintain its steadystate balance of a specific concentration of sodium dissolved in water. What that means is the more sodium you have the more water your body will retain. 400mg of salt takes 2 pounds of water to dissolve to your bodies ionic concentration.

    What happens if you drink very little water. Well in a way this is the same as eating lots of sodium. If you are dehydrated then the sodium level in your blood increases because there is less water and again your body will retain water that you do take in.

    What happens if you drink lots of water? The effect is to dilute out the amount of sodium, to adjust for this your body will want to remove some water from your system...ie you will need to pee.

    So as counter intuitive as this might seem if your goal is to retain less water then you should drink lots of water along with having a moderate sodium intake.

    My actual advice to you however is that this isn't something you should care about at all. Your scale weight isn't an indicator of your health, your percent bodyfat is...and that has absolutely nothing to do with how much water you happen to be retaining on a given day.

    That said its never a bad idea to drink lots of water. I wouldn't care about the sodium though unless you have a medical condition and are under a doctor's advisement to lower your sodium intake.
  • bwogilvie
    bwogilvie Posts: 2,130 Member
    That said its never a bad idea to drink lots of water. I wouldn't care about the sodium though unless you have a medical condition and are under a doctor's advisement to lower your sodium intake.

    Actually, it can be a bad idea to drink too much water. Hyponatremia - low blood sodium due to excessive water consumption - can be serious or even fatal. If your blood sodium concentration gets lower than the sodium concentration in cells, the cell membranes will transport water from the blood into tissues, causing them to swell. If the brain is one of those tissues, it can cause confusion and even death.

    The best advice is to drink when you're thirsty.

    Further reading:
    http://www.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/hyponatremia/overview.htm
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/20/sports/sportsspecial/20marathon.html
    http://www.runnersworld.com/drinks-hydration/revisionist-drinking
    http://www.outsideonline.com/blog/outdoor-adventure/tim-noakes-on-the-serious-problem-of-overhydration-in-endurance-sports.html
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    That said its never a bad idea to drink lots of water. I wouldn't care about the sodium though unless you have a medical condition and are under a doctor's advisement to lower your sodium intake.

    Actually, it can be a bad idea to drink too much water. Hyponatremia - low blood sodium due to excessive water consumption - can be serious or even fatal. If your blood sodium concentration gets lower than the sodium concentration in cells, the cell membranes will transport water from the blood into tissues, causing them to swell. If the brain is one of those tissues, it can cause confusion and even death.

    The best advice is to drink when you're thirsty.

    Further reading:
    http://www.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/hyponatremia/overview.htm
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/20/sports/sportsspecial/20marathon.html
    http://www.runnersworld.com/drinks-hydration/revisionist-drinking
    http://www.outsideonline.com/blog/outdoor-adventure/tim-noakes-on-the-serious-problem-of-overhydration-in-endurance-sports.html

    Well yes but honestly you would really really have to force the water down to drink that much water with peoples standard sodium intake.

    You are right though that you can take this too far. If you become a total nazi about your sodium intake and try to drive it as low as you can plus drink gallons of water a day you could cause yourself harm. Your body needs to maintain its steady state, it needs water but it also does need sodium.

    The advice to drink lots of water stems from the fact that there are a lot more people who are chronically dehydrated than there are people who drink to much water.
  • SNOflake888
    SNOflake888 Posts: 71 Member
    Thanks guys! This really answers every question i had! Y'all are fantasic!
  • CA_Underdog
    CA_Underdog Posts: 733 Member
    Well yes but honestly you would really really have to force the water down to drink that much water with peoples standard sodium intake If you become a total nazi about your sodium intake..
    Hyponatremia is a concern for endurance athletes--those engaging in physical activity lasting 90+ minutes--even those who are not "sodium nazis" and rather eat the RDA of 1,500-2,300 mg or a less healthy American's 3400mg/day. I learned this well from my dawn-to-dusk hike of the Grand Canyon (134 degrees). Marathon runners have learned also. If you overhydrate, please dial it back before pushing your body.

    Overhydration--in addition to washing out sodium--can wash our calcium, potassium, and other beneficial things. The immediate results of calcium and potassium deficiencies are less dramatic. Long-term?

    Play it safe. Don't underhydrate. Don't overhydrate. Aim for straw-colored pee. :)

    http://health.clevelandclinic.org/2013/10/what-the-color-of-your-urine-says-about-you-infographic/
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    Well yes but honestly you would really really have to force the water down to drink that much water with peoples standard sodium intake If you become a total nazi about your sodium intake..
    Hyponatremia is a concern for endurance athletes--those engaging in physical activity lasting 90+ minutes--even those who are not "sodium nazis" and rather eat the RDA of 1,500-2,300 mg or a less healthy American's 3400mg/day. I learned this well from my dawn-to-dusk hike of the Grand Canyon (134 degrees). Marathon runners have learned also. If you overhydrate, please dial it back before pushing your body.

    Overhydration--in addition to washing out sodium--can wash our calcium, potassium, and other beneficial things. The immediate results of calcium and potassium deficiencies are less dramatic. Long-term?

    Play it safe. Don't underhydrate. Don't overhydrate. Aim for straw-colored pee. :)

    http://health.clevelandclinic.org/2013/10/what-the-color-of-your-urine-says-about-you-infographic/

    Okay thats fair as well. I mean it is a steadystate, you do things like overexert yourself while dehydrated or drink far to much water and overexert yourself you can cause yourself problems, all things in moderation and sodium is essential.