Raspberry Keytones AND Garcinia Cambogia

Listen lady, this is my first time on these forums and I was just looking to get peoples input so if you don't like that I posted this thread, here's an idea. D O N T C L I C K O N I T.

I know Raspberry Keytones. I KNOW HER!
She's really nice, very supportive.

Listen lady, this is my first time on these forums and I was just looking to get peoples input so if you don't like that I posted this thread, here's an idea. D O N T C L I C K O N I T.

Most of the people here who are saying it's a waste of money are trying to also look out for some newbly members who might stumble upon this thread and think that taking this BS will work better than calorie reduction and exercise. They don't, they're just a waste of money. Nobody's saying that you can't waste your money, we're just presenting FACTS for other members to see.

And thats cool. But seriously, thats all they gotta say lol.

Listen lady, this is my first time on these forums and I was just looking to get peoples input so if you don't like that I posted this thread, here's an idea. D O N T C L I C K O N I T.

Most of the people here who are saying it's a waste of money are trying to also look out for some newbly members who might stumble upon this thread and think that taking this BS will work better than calorie reduction and exercise. They don't, they're just a waste of money. Nobody's saying that you can't waste your money, we're just presenting FACTS for other members to see.

And thats cool. But seriously, thats all they gotta say lol.

They are both useless. No evidence of either of them doing anything.

" In conclusion, RK prevents and improves obesity and fatty liver. These effects appear to stem from the action of RK in altering the lipid metabolism, or more specifically, in increasing norepinephrine-induced lipolysis in white adipocytes."
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320505001281

There's conflicting studies out there, but here is one supporting raspberry ketones to lose weight. I seemed to have decreased appetite and lost a bit of weight while on them, but, of course this is inconclusive as to whether or not the RK was having a true effect. I'm also not using them any longer.


EDIT:
Instead of asking ppl for personal opinions and experience, why not read the science articles and come to your own conclusions? Go to Google, search "Google scholar", then use your keywords. Very easy and much more informative (and accurate) than ppl's opinions on the matter.

This study is supporting raspberry keytones to reduce weight gain in rodents on a high fat diet. It is not supporting fat loss in humans.

Yeah, I'm not completely stupid, I knew about the search option, and I did that but the very few that came up about taking BOTH at the same time, was just a bunch of people being rude and no one actually answering the question. I guess I should have known it wouldn't be different for me, right?! lol

They are both useless. No evidence of either of them doing anything.

" In conclusion, RK prevents and improves obesity and fatty liver. These effects appear to stem from the action of RK in altering the lipid metabolism, or more specifically, in increasing norepinephrine-induced lipolysis in white adipocytes."
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320505001281

There's conflicting studies out there, but here is one supporting raspberry ketones to lose weight. I seemed to have decreased appetite and lost a bit of weight while on them, but, of course this is inconclusive as to whether or not the RK was having a true effect. I'm also not using them any longer.


EDIT:
Instead of asking ppl for personal opinions and experience, why not read the science articles and come to your own conclusions? Go to Google, search "Google scholar", then use your keywords. Very easy and much more informative (and accurate) than ppl's opinions on the matter.

This study is supporting raspberry keytones to reduce weight gain in rodents on a high fat diet. It is not supporting fat loss in humans.

Do you not understand that for ethical reasons humans are not used in preliminary studies? Also this:

"Another reason rodents are used as models in medical testing is that their genetic, biological and behavior characteristics closely resemble those of humans, and many symptoms of human conditions can be replicated in mice and rats. "Rats and mice are mammals that share many processes with humans and are appropriate for use to answer many research questions," said Jenny Haliski, a representative for the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Office of Laboratory Animal Welfare."
http://www.livescience.com/32860-why-do-medical-researchers-use-mice.html

They are both useless. No evidence of either of them doing anything.

" In conclusion, RK prevents and improves obesity and fatty liver. These effects appear to stem from the action of RK in altering the lipid metabolism, or more specifically, in increasing norepinephrine-induced lipolysis in white adipocytes."
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320505001281

There's conflicting studies out there, but here is one supporting raspberry ketones to lose weight. I seemed to have decreased appetite and lost a bit of weight while on them, but, of course this is inconclusive as to whether or not the RK was having a true effect. I'm also not using them any longer.


EDIT:
Instead of asking ppl for personal opinions and experience, why not read the science articles and come to your own conclusions? Go to Google, search "Google scholar", then use your keywords. Very easy and much more informative (and accurate) than ppl's opinions on the matter.

This study is supporting raspberry keytones to reduce weight gain in rodents on a high fat diet. It is not supporting fat loss in humans.

Do you not understand that for ethical reasons humans are not used in preliminary studies? Also this:

"Another reason rodents are used as models in medical testing is that their genetic, biological and behavior characteristics closely resemble those of humans, and many symptoms of human conditions can be replicated in mice and rats. "Rats and mice are mammals that share many processes with humans and are appropriate for use to answer many research questions," said Jenny Haliski, a representative for the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Office of Laboratory Animal Welfare."
http://www.livescience.com/32860-why-do-medical-researchers-use-mice.html

But that doesn't really answer the fact that this study has nothing to do with weight loss :noway:

"In conclusion, RK prevents and improves obesity..."

What part about improving obesity does not include weight loss? I do not believe they are talking about increasing obesity when they discuss improving obesity.

Yes, I do understand that and it doesn't change my previous statement.

Then you don't actually understand.

They are both useless. No evidence of either of them doing anything.

" In conclusion, RK prevents and improves obesity and fatty liver. These effects appear to stem from the action of RK in altering the lipid metabolism, or more specifically, in increasing norepinephrine-induced lipolysis in white adipocytes."
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320505001281

There's conflicting studies out there, but here is one supporting raspberry ketones to lose weight. I seemed to have decreased appetite and lost a bit of weight while on them, but, of course this is inconclusive as to whether or not the RK was having a true effect. I'm also not using them any longer.


EDIT:
Instead of asking ppl for personal opinions and experience, why not read the science articles and come to your own conclusions? Go to Google, search "Google scholar", then use your keywords. Very easy and much more informative (and accurate) than ppl's opinions on the matter.

This study is supporting raspberry keytones to reduce weight gain in rodents on a high fat diet. It is not supporting fat loss in humans.

Do you not understand that for ethical reasons humans are not used in preliminary studies? Also this:

"Another reason rodents are used as models in medical testing is that their genetic, biological and behavior characteristics closely resemble those of humans, and many symptoms of human conditions can be replicated in mice and rats. "Rats and mice are mammals that share many processes with humans and are appropriate for use to answer many research questions," said Jenny Haliski, a representative for the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Office of Laboratory Animal Welfare."
http://www.livescience.com/32860-why-do-medical-researchers-use-mice.html

But that doesn't really answer the fact that this study has nothing to do with weight loss :noway:

"In conclusion, RK prevents and improves obesity..."

What part about improving obesity does not include weight loss? I do not believe they are talking about increasing obesity when they discuss improving obesity.

Yes, I do understand that and it doesn't change my previous statement.

Then you don't actually understand.