Not losing at all

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  • ren_ascent
    ren_ascent Posts: 432 Member
    OMG there is no such thing as starvation mode as you people think of it. Eating 1200 calories is not even close to low enough to cause the body to stop losing fat. MR.M asked the right question. I would bet tons of money most people who think they are eating 1200 calories are not actually weighing all their food on a scale and being diligent with their tracking. Please explain to me why eating more calories would cause fat loss?

    "Eating 1200 calories is not even close to low enough to cause the body to stop losing fat. " . . . 1200 calories is MY low ball and I'm practically a midget with a small build. Don't try and get the person to starve themselves. I do agree with logging EVERYTHING and doing it right. Pick up a bite sized Snickers? Log it. Have an extra helping of veggies? Log it.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    Strong thread hijack

    Yeah good point. Yopeeps nice talking to you man but I'm going to drop it, let people talk about the OP's comment.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member

    I just used a Bod Pod on Sunday. Have you heard of the Bod Pod? Water retention is from dieting which I have figured out. I didn't start losing actually weight scale until I start this my fitness pal and still getting stronger. You are right muscle gains fat lost. N scale loss that does not matter.

    Yo just wondering man when you get down to the percent bodyfat you want are you going to bulk up your calories to aid in muscle gain and keep hitting those deadlifts? Right now I'm focused on the fat loss but am lifting still. Going to switch it up once I get down to about 12% bodyfat to eating at surplus build a little muscle. But if during the fat loss I'm also building a little muscle that'd be great, just not expecting it you know.

    Your able to do both at the same time. When I hit my weight goal I will be very close to my lifting goal. If I am not as strong then yeah I will bulk up.

    http://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/5-2-fat-loss-diet-for-lifters

    Give that article a try.
  • amwbox
    amwbox Posts: 576 Member
    I don't think you're eating enough calories considering how much you're working out. If you are eating too little, your body will go into starvation mode and you won't lose weight.

    God I wish people would stop saying that. Its an old wives tale and its just not true.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    I've been running 2-3 times a week for about a year. The past 3 weeks I stepped it up to 3-4 times a week (200-300 calories per workout), have reduced my caloric intake to 1200, and have not lost any weight. I'm 19 pounds heavier than I was 4 years ago, and my doctor wants me back to where I was. Just had my thyroid and glucose levels checked-everything's fine. Why am I not losing????
    Have you heard of a site called T nation.com There is a article in there I recommend you read. Your metabolism is in a wreck. http://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/truth-about-metabolic-damage

    I am almost very sure that this article will answer your questions.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    I don't think you're eating enough calories considering how much you're working out. If you are eating too little, your body will go into starvation mode and you won't lose weight.

    God I wish people would stop saying that. Its an old wives tale and its just not true.

    The body will eat away your muscles. To some people you might just be a smaller slimmer fat person. NO one wants that. Starvation mode does exist.
  • ren_ascent
    ren_ascent Posts: 432 Member
    What the derp did I just wonder into?

    Yeah. I commented then started reading back . . . putting my hands where people can see them & backing out slowly.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    What the derp did I just wonder into?

    Yeah. I commented then started reading back . . . putting my hands where people can see them & backing out slowly.

    You walked into people set in there ways because they see results. There ways to get better results.
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  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member


    The body will eat away your muscles. To some people you might just be a smaller slimmer fat person. NO one wants that. Starvation mode does exist.
    This is so wrong it's not funny. If you eat a moderate amount of protein and lift weights then the body will have no reason to "eat muscle". Especially if you are a relatively high body fat. Muscle loss is only a real concern when you are already lean or when you do not lift. Muscle doesn't come close to providing as much fuel as fat. Per lb fat provides about 4 times as much energy when burned for fuel as does muscle. Plus most people have so much more fat on board then needed that for the body to prioritize muscle over it as a fuel source simply makes no sense what so ever. The reason people lose a ton of weight and look very small is that they didn't have nearly as much mass as they thought they did.
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  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    What the derp did I just wonder into?

    Yeah. I commented then started reading back . . . putting my hands where people can see them & backing out slowly.

    You walked into people set in there ways because they see results. There ways to get better results.
    No they are people who understand biology and nutrition and don't rely on T nation articles for everything.
    There might be better ways but.....how would you know, if you have applied those better ways? Because an article says so?


    The body will eat away your muscles. To some people you might just be a smaller slimmer fat person. NO one wants that. Starvation mode does exist.
    This is so wrong it's not funny. If you eat a moderate amount of protein and lift weights then the body will have no reason to "eat muscle". Especially if you are a relatively high body fat. Muscle loss is only a real concern when you are already lean or when you do not lift. Muscle doesn't come close to providing as much fuel as fat. Per lb fat provides about 4 times as much energy when burned for fuel as does muscle. Plus most people have so much more fat on board then needed that for the body to prioritize muscle over it as a fuel source simply makes no sense what so ever. The reason people lose a ton of weight and look very small is that they didn't have nearly as much mass as they thought they did.
    Also, strongly agree^^^^

    I learned through trial and error that what I says works for me. Maybe Im not human.
  • 1) You might want to take a look at what those calories consist of...
    Losing weight I have found is 80% what you eat or don't eat and only 20% exercise. My nutritionist started me out on 40% carbs,
    30% fat, 30% protein for a break down of micro nutrients.
    2) Also, the amount of sleep you are getting will make a difference too. They say try to get 7-8 hours of sleep.
    3) Water intake is key for energy and hydration as well. I was told to drink 1/2 my body weight in ounces of water per day.

    This is what I started at though it has been changed along the journey - but in May 2013 I was 277 and am now down to 196!

    Good Luck to you! :happy:
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    What the derp did I just wonder into?

    Yeah. I commented then started reading back . . . putting my hands where people can see them & backing out slowly.

    You walked into people set in there ways because they see results. There ways to get better results.
    No they are people who understand biology and nutrition and don't rely on T nation articles for everything.
    There might be better ways but.....how would you know, if you have applied those better ways? Because an article says so?


    The body will eat away your muscles. To some people you might just be a smaller slimmer fat person. NO one wants that. Starvation mode does exist.
    This is so wrong it's not funny. If you eat a moderate amount of protein and lift weights then the body will have no reason to "eat muscle". Especially if you are a relatively high body fat. Muscle loss is only a real concern when you are already lean or when you do not lift. Muscle doesn't come close to providing as much fuel as fat. Per lb fat provides about 4 times as much energy when burned for fuel as does muscle. Plus most people have so much more fat on board then needed that for the body to prioritize muscle over it as a fuel source simply makes no sense what so ever. The reason people lose a ton of weight and look very small is that they didn't have nearly as much mass as they thought they did.
    Also, strongly agree^^^^

    I learned through trial and error that what I says works for me. Maybe Im not human. I just finish taking nutrition this semester with an A. I am going to add a minor in exercise science. I think I have done enough research over hours of hours in my life.
  • artistryrose
    artistryrose Posts: 84 Member
    [/quote]

    I learned through trial and error that what I says works for me. Maybe Im not human.
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    You are human, I have finally found what works for me after 6 years of trying everything noted above, but since I don't have a medical/scientific journal to back it up, my weight loss, extra energy, increased strength, and overall well being must just be a figment of my imagination :)
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member


    I learned through trial and error that what I says works for me. Maybe Im not human.
    No you are human, you simply are confusing a correlation with a causation. I achieved a lot of weight loss and I build a decent amount of muscle. I watch game of thrones. I could say watching game of thrones has worked for me. Everyone should simply watch game of thrones and they will lose weight and gain muscle. It worked for me...
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member

    I learned through trial and error that what I says works for me. Maybe Im not human.
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    You are human, I have finally found what works for me after 6 years of trying everything noted above, but since I don't have a medical/scientific journal to back it up, my weight loss, extra energy, increased strength, and overall well being must just be a figment of my imagination :)
    [/quote]

    That because exercise science is a little different. My brother is a doctor in physical therapy but is clueless to fitness.
  • Lindzpnc
    Lindzpnc Posts: 98 Member
    1200 calories may be too much for you...it depends on your starting weight! When I was 300 lbs I was able to eat 1900 cals and do 3 workouts and lose....now there is no way I can eat that many I lowered it to 1200 but may need to go even lower
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member


    I learned through trial and error that what I says works for me. Maybe Im not human.
    No you are human, you simply are confusing a correlation with a causation. I achieved a lot of weight loss and I build a decent amount of muscle. I watch game of thrones. I could say watching game of thrones has worked for me. Everyone should simply watch game of thrones and they will lose weight and gain muscle. It worked for me...

    That show is pretty good I haven't seeing the earlier season. Every Sunday HBO.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    In all honesty most people can lose weight on 1200 calories. Really other then inactive, petite, women, everyone should be able to. The reason people don't is that they are not good at tracking intake. 99% of the time the calorie goal is not the problem, its the tracking. So if they are thinking they are eating 1200 but really having 1800 and they decrease calories to 1000 they are really only decreasing to 1650...
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    1200 calories may be too much for you...it depends on your starting weight! When I was 300 lbs I was able to eat 1900 cals and do 3 workouts and lose....now there is no way I can eat that many I lowered it to 1200 but may need to go even lower

    I'd invite you to look up what age and weight you would have to be to have a TDEE of 1200. Last time I looked you would have to be an 85 year old 4 foot tall completely sedentary woman. I doubt that 1200 calories is too much for the OP.
  • retropactum
    retropactum Posts: 75 Member
    Can we make sure that the OP is logging accurately and not eating more than their body is burning before we start inventing medical problems for them?

    Are you logging everything? Including fruits and veggies, condiments, cooking oils, etc.
    Are you using a food scale, measuring cups/spoons, or eyeballing portion sizes?
    Will you open your diary for us?
    Are you eating back any of your earned exercise calories?
    If so, are you relying on MFP/gym machine estimates to estimate your burn?

    ^THIS... and with only 19 lbs to lose, your weight loss should be slow (set calculators to about 1/2-1 lb loss per week)
  • k_nicole87
    k_nicole87 Posts: 407 Member
    There is so much win in this thread.
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  • Lindzpnc
    Lindzpnc Posts: 98 Member
    1200 calories may be too much for you...it depends on your starting weight! When I was 300 lbs I was able to eat 1900 cals and do 3 workouts and lose....now there is no way I can eat that many I lowered it to 1200 but may need to go even lower

    I'd invite you to look up what age and weight you would have to be to have a TDEE of 1200. Last time I looked you would have to be an 85 year old 4 foot tall completely sedentary woman. I doubt that 1200 calories is too much for the OP.

    I log religiously.... When I'm taking it seriously and always overestimate portions and underestimate cal burned and even so there are weeks when the scale doesnt budge!!! I have to have a dramatic deficit to see any progress. Yes I strength train and have done Hiit before... Its not always black and white. Everyones body is different. Hormones, medical conditions do play a factor
  • k_nicole87
    k_nicole87 Posts: 407 Member
    There is so much fail in this thread.
    FIFY

    NO! If I get a good chuckle, it is clearly a personal win. It works for me. It will work for everyone.
  • lthames0810
    lthames0810 Posts: 722 Member
    Late, but in to bookmark.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    1200 calories may be too much for you...it depends on your starting weight! When I was 300 lbs I was able to eat 1900 cals and do 3 workouts and lose....now there is no way I can eat that many I lowered it to 1200 but may need to go even lower

    I'd invite you to look up what age and weight you would have to be to have a TDEE of 1200. Last time I looked you would have to be an 85 year old 4 foot tall completely sedentary woman. I doubt that 1200 calories is too much for the OP.

    I log religiously.... When I'm taking it seriously and always overestimate portions and underestimate cal burned and even so there are weeks when the scale doesnt budge!!! I have to have a dramatic deficit to see any progress. Yes I strength train and have done Hiit before... Its not always black and white. Everyones body is different. Hormones, medical conditions do play a factor

    You have to judge weight loss success by the long term, not by a single week. Almost everyone will stall out for a week here and there, even those who are doing everything right. If a couple of weeks without a loss is how you determine that a weight loss plan isn't working then I would urge you to reconsider your measure of success.

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  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    1200 calories may be too much for you...it depends on your starting weight! When I was 300 lbs I was able to eat 1900 cals and do 3 workouts and lose....now there is no way I can eat that many I lowered it to 1200 but may need to go even lower

    I'd invite you to look up what age and weight you would have to be to have a TDEE of 1200. Last time I looked you would have to be an 85 year old 4 foot tall completely sedentary woman. I doubt that 1200 calories is too much for the OP.

    I log religiously.... When I'm taking it seriously and always overestimate portions and underestimate cal burned and even so there are weeks when the scale doesnt budge!!! I have to have a dramatic deficit to see any progress. Yes I strength train and have done Hiit before... Its not always black and white. Everyones body is different. Hormones, medical conditions do play a factor

    I'm confused by something. Logging religiously implies no need for estimation but then you go on to describe how you estimate things. If you know their value there is no need to estimate. If you feel the need to "overestimate" or "underestimate" that implies you have some doubt as to the actual caloric value and burn of the foods and activities you are partaking in. Yet at the same time you express utter confidence in your values. So which is it?

    Hormones and medical conditions can change the amount of water you retain or have minor influence on your BMR but they cannot reverse the laws of physics. At somepoint your body has to get energy from somewhere to maintain your brain function, your heartbeat and your body temperature and no amount of horomonal changes and no medical condition is going to change that.
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