Grief and hunger

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I learned something odd this week. Maybe not odd for others but it was a learning for me. My brother passed away on Tuesday (on my birthday) from a long bout with cancer. While caring for him and supporting his wife I struggled to log food and stay on track but did okay. After he past I started to feel like I needed to eat anything and everything. During the process of caring for him it was so easy to forget to eat and I never felt hunger, I ate because I needed to make sure his wife was eating. When it was all over, i realized that was not hunger it was grief and loss I was feeling. I was feeling entitled to over eat, to say the heck with it and to have whatever i wanted. To say I am an emotional eater would be a huge understatment but seeing it so clearly now is enligtening to me on my own path to better health. I hope I continue to see feelings more for what they are instead of stuffing it with food hoping to feel better. I ahve not gained and lost a pound this week. An odd success story but just one i wondered if anyone else can relate to.

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  • willrun4bagels
    willrun4bagels Posts: 838 Member
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    Very sorry to hear about your brother :heart:
  • knitapeace
    knitapeace Posts: 1,013 Member
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    I'm so sorry about your brother.

    Stepping outside your feelings to evaluate them is very difficult, especially painful ones and even more so when they are so fresh and immediate. I applaud you for being able to accomplish this and use what you learned. It's something I struggle with every day, with emotions that aren't nearly as life-changing as these.
  • hellykill
    hellykill Posts: 59 Member
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    You are in my thoughts... so sorry to hear your brother passed.

    It is very interesting how such emotions can affect appetite. I think it's great you have that awareness and thanks for sharing with all of us. I have always eaten my feelings. I figure I will always have to be conscious of this.

    Take care and inbox me anytime if you need to chat.
  • Vune
    Vune Posts: 672 Member
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    I am very sorry for your loss. I lost my father last month. I'm just starting to get my appetite back. I've been falling back on convenience foods just to make sure i get something in me. I usually have problems with keeping my appetite under control during rough times, but i went the other way for this.

    My therapist said there is no wrong way to grieve, so long as you're not getting yourself out others. It's good that your recognizing it for what it is, and its also okay to eat that ice cream if it'll sooth you a little bit. You've been through a lot.
  • looseseal
    looseseal Posts: 216 Member
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    PennyJB, I am so very sorry for your loss. This is all new and you are likely in a numb state right about now. I had 7 relatives die in 2013, including my mom and dad 11 days apart. I found it impossible to prepare food, let alone pay attention to what I was eating, put on the lbs. Although my grief was immense it never stopped me from eating. My oldest daughter was the opposite, she couldn't eat and lost weight. We're all different.

    I personally have found that grief is kind of like losing weight in that it's not linear (at least not for me). It has its ups and downs, you think you're doing better then bam, you're not. Someone gave this to my brother at one of the many funerals last year ... I think it was my mom's but not sure. I hope it helps you through this time. Take care.


    The Mourner’s Bill of Rights ~ Alan D. Wolfert, Ph.D

    Although you should reach out to others as you do the work of mourning, you should not feel obligated to accept the unhelpful responses you may receive from some people. You are the one who is grieving, and as such, you have certain “rights” no one should try to take away from you.

    1) You have the right to experience your own unique grief. No one else will grieve in exactly the same way you do. So, when you turn to others for help, don’t allow them to tell you what you should or should not be feeling.

    2) You have the right to talk about your grief. Talking about your grief will help you heal. Seek out others who will allow you to talk as much as you want, as often as you want, about your grief. If at times you don’t feel like talking, you also have the right to be silent.

    3) You have the right to feel a multitude of emotions. Confusion, disorientation, fear, guilt, and relief are just a few of the emotions you might feel as part of your grief journey. Others may try to tell you that feeling angry, for example, is wrong. Don’t take these judgmental responses to heart. Instead, find listeners who will accept your feelings without condition.

    4) You have the right to be tolerant of your physical and emotional limits. Your feelings of loss and sadness will probably leave you feeling fatigued. Respect what your body and mind are telling you. Get daily rest. Eat balanced meals. And don’t allow others to push you into doing things you don’t feel ready to do.

    5) You have the right to experience “griefbursts.” Sometimes, out of nowhere, a powerful surge of grief may overcome you. This can be frightening, but is normal and natural. Find someone who understands and will let you talk it out.

    6) You have the right to make use of ritual. The funeral ritual does more than acknowledge the death of someone loved. It helps provide you with the support of caring people. More importantly, the funeral is a way for you to mourn. If others tell you the funeral or other healing rituals such as these are silly or unnecessary, don’t listen.

    7) You have the right to embrace your spirituality. If faith is part of your life, express it in ways that seem appropriate to you. Allow yourself to be around people who understand and support your religious beliefs. If you feel angry at God, find someone to talk with who won’t be critical of your feelings of hurt and abandonment.

    You have the right to search for meaning. You may find yourself asking, “Why did he or she die? Why this way? Why now?” Some of your questions may have answers, but some may not. And watch out for clichéd responses some people may give you. Comments like, “It was God’s will” or “Think of what you have to be thankful for” are not helpful and you do not have to accept them.

    9) You have the right to treasure your memories. Memories are one of the best legacies that exist after the death of someone loved. You will always remember. Instead of ignoring your memories, find others with whom you can share them.

    10) You have the right to move toward your grief and heal. Reconciling your grief will not happen quickly. Remember, grief is a process, not an event. Be patient and tolerant with yourself and avoid people who are impatient and intolerant with you. Neither you nor those around you must forget that the death of someone loved changes your life forever.
  • Alassonde
    Alassonde Posts: 228 Member
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    I had a similar experience many years ago, my fiancee had cancer and I completely lost my appetite for months while caring for him and then mourning his loss. I was probably a few weeks/months after he passed that I started eating normally again, much to the relief of friends and family (I got down to about 85 pounds; I had always been thin but that was a low point).
  • katkins73
    katkins73 Posts: 416 Member
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    I'm so sorry to hear that (((hugs))):heart:
  • KatyRu
    KatyRu Posts: 55 Member
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    I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. :heart:

    I can say that I've learned this lesson as well. Finding out my dad had cancer was so hard. I gained probably 40 pounds after his diagnosis. I've since lost that weight + 5 (I found out 2 1/2 years ago). Somewhere along the way, I learned an important lesson. I had just gotten a call from my mom (around a month ago) telling me that my dad's cancer is spreading very quickly, and I immediately got up to go grab some Ben & Jerry's Half Baked (my all-time comfort food). After eating and logging around one serving, I stopped and realized: All overeating will do is make me feel WORSE.

    Yep. I no longer feel entitled to food after a hard day, because "I had a hard day and I NEED/EARNED it." No. What I NEED is lasting happiness. Food won't make me happy for any longer than the 2 seconds it's in my mouth, and THEN I feel guilty. So then, not only am I feeling sad, I'm feeling sad AND guilty. That doesn't fix anything.

    The day I learned that was a huge revelation for me too. Congratulations for getting to know yourself, and my best wishes for you and your family.
  • onefortyone
    onefortyone Posts: 531 Member
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    I am so, so sorry for the loss of your brother.

    I felt exactly the same after my daughter died. She was born sleeping in January. I lost all the baby-weight within days, but then piled 10lbs back on immediately because I felt 'entitled' to eat comfort foods. I felt like, I don't deserve to be in agony AND hungry. Haven't I suffered enough? And specifically healthy foods like salad, fruits and vegetables felt like a literal slap in the face. I also felt phantom hunger pains right after eating because I just wanted to feel full constantly. It is all part of healing and grieving, and (hopefully) totally normal to have a strange relationship with food for a while when your world is turned upside down.

    Now four months on, most days I do not feel 'entitled' to overeat. I know there's no point being fat AND sad. I know that vegetables are delicious and I want to eat them every day. I want to be healthier for my future. Most days. Sometimes I still have days where I just want to eat and eat and eat. Sometimes I do just that. But I am still working on it.

    Good luck, add me if you like (though I don't say much) and again I am so sorry.
  • PennyJB63
    PennyJB63 Posts: 21 Member
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    Thank you all so much, your words mean a great deal to me. Having permission to grieve in the way that is right for me is a big part of what I needed to hear today. It's a process and it seems to change by the minute. I am sorry for all of the people that shared their stories of loss with me. I am so sorry each of you have had to endure this pain.