Nutritionist wants 1200 calories/day
Katrina_F
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I'm contemplating weight loss surgery after years and years of failed attempts at losing weight and then keeping it off. I've been going through the program at Kaiser so that my options are open, and the nutritionist wants us on a 1200 calorie diet with a focus on protein. Is 1200 calories too little? I've only been doing it for a few days, and it hasn't been that difficult. But if I can keep up my motivation to lose weight without the surgery I want to make sure that I'm optimizing my hard work. MFP recommends almost 1800 calories a day for weight loss, so I'm thinking of upping it to 1400-1550. I'd appreciate any thoughts/suggestions.
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I'm contemplating weight loss surgery after years and years of failed attempts at losing weight and then keeping it off. I've been going through the program at Kaiser so that my options are open, and the nutritionist wants us on a 1200 calorie diet with a focus on protein. Is 1200 calories too little? I've only been doing it for a few days, and it hasn't been that difficult. But if I can keep up my motivation to lose weight without the surgery I want to make sure that I'm optimizing my hard work. MFP recommends almost 1800 calories a day for weight loss, so I'm thinking of upping it to 1400-1550. I'd appreciate any thoughts/suggestions.
I'd continue to work with your nutritionist and if you have doubts about whether enough calories are sufficient for you then talk that out with your nutritionist. Not sure seeking out advice from the internet is honestly your best option.
My gut says 1200 calories is too little and that that sort of aggressiveness in your diet is unnecessary unless you are about to drop dead from morbid obesity but as I said, between you and your nutritionist. Just be frank with them, express your concerns...ask why such a low calorie amount is necessary and see how they respond.0 -
Im not going to say dont listen to her/him. Im not a professional and so cant give that type of absolutism.
What my experience was however: My nutritionist told me to go on 1700 calories a day when I weighed 300lbs+. I decided to use the 2100 calories mfp gave me instead. I lost on average 2lbs a week on this. Very glad I tested out the higher calorie goal first. I know if I had used the lower calorie goal I would have been much more likely to fall off the wagon and quit the diet altogether. I am still on 2000 calories a day now and have lost 92lbs. I see the nutritionist every few months and she is consistently surprised at how much I eat to lose weight.
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I'm on 1200 and couldn't sustain it if I couldn't eat back exercise calories. I've lost at least 2lb per week for these first weeks.0
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I am on 1310, and do pretty good, about 1.5-2 a week lost. Sometimes If I am hungry I eat back some from working out. I am currently 240.0
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I had weight loss surgery almost 3 years ago and I will tell you that the 1200 calorie diet they put me on before surgery wasn't near as hard as I thought and I lost weight on it, because it is very high protein. If you aren't hungry on 1200, it's because of all the protein and probably the extra water they have you drinking.
As for upping your calories, I would advise you to stick with what the nutritionist is telling you. Surgery or not, this is their business and they do know what they are talking about. If you feel the need to talk or have more questions, message me. And good luck.0 -
When you have a LOT of weight to lose there's nothing wrong with 1200 for a SHORT time to give yourself some good motivation I dropped about 20 lbs my first month (from 230 SW). If you can handle it I'd go for it, though if you find yourself getting hungry definitely eat a little more.0
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I am on 1200 calories a day plus workout calories (around 300 extra calories on those days), and it isn't easy but you just have to eat a lot more fruit and vegetables than you used to. My diet focuses on proteins, vegetables and fruits, cutting out as much complex carbs and sugar as I can. Honestly, I feel fuller and happier this way! Do what you are comfortable with, but 1200 is possible.0
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The 1200 recommended calories was recommended for the entire class, I haven't visited with a nutritionist personally. I've been doing ok with the 1200 a day (lots of fresh fruit and veggies), but I don't want my body to go into starvation mode even though I'm eating adequately. I'm also just looking for advice, or anyone else's experience with eating so little. I am more than well aware that the internet is not a word to live by. Just want information so that I can make an educated decision with what's provided.0
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My opinion on why so many nutritionists put people on 1200 calories is as follows: Very few people need to be on such low calories to lose weight. No one who is obese needs to be on 1200 calories. Most people suck at counting calories. They forget to count things, they have cheat meals, the don't weigh food, they eat food that is difficult to track (out to eat, food prepared by others). If a nutritionist told you 1800 calories, which is more reasonable you may end up eating 2500+ due to miscounting. You don't lose weight, you blame the nutritionist, you fire them. If they tell you 1200 calories, you end up eating the 1700-1800 they actually want you on, you lose weight, they look like the genius. In the rare case you actually count 100% correctly and eat 1200 calories, you lose lots of weight really fast and then they up your calories the next time you meet with them...
1200 calories is way to low for almost everyone IF and only IF you count correctly.0 -
hmmm.. I set mine to 1200. Maybe I should just keep it at for miss counts. Makes sense.0
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My opinion on why so many nutritionists put people on 1200 calories is as follows: Very few people need to be on such low calories to lose weight. No one who is obese needs to be on 1200 calories. Most people suck at counting calories. They forget to count things, they have cheat meals, the don't weigh food, they eat food that is difficult to track (out to eat, food prepared by others). If a nutritionist told you 1800 calories, which is more reasonable you may end up eating 2500+ due to miscounting. You don't lose weight, you blame the nutritionist, you fire them. If they tell you 1200 calories, you end up eating the 1700-1800 they actually want you on, you lose weight, they look like the genius. In the rare case you actually count 100% correctly and eat 1200 calories, you lose lots of weight really fast and then they up your calories the next time you meet with them...
1200 calories is way to low for almost everyone IF and only IF you count correctly.
I never looked at it this way but I think it's an excellent point.
I think 1200 is way too low as well if you're going to log properly though. I had less to lose and I've never eaten less than 1600, and lost 70 pounds in a year. So if you're going to weigh your food and be anal about logging like me... I'd follow MFP. If you don't want to bother weighing food and don't mind estimating... 1200 is probably good.0 -
This makes sense. I have been one to weight my food, prepare my own meals and track everything (even when I don't want too). I've only gone over my 173 the last few days. Yesterday I ate like 1800 so I went to the gym and worked off 500 calories. Maybe I should make an appointment for the nutritionist for a more personal idea of what I should really do.0
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In Nov. 2012 I weighed 339 pounds at 5'1". My BMI was 61, I was in a wheel chair having severe joint damage from arthritis, and I was 62 years old. My primary care physician and I both felt that my best chance to lose weight would be with bariatric surgery, so I decided to have the "sleeve". My insurance company required 6 months of a weight loss plan before they would approve surgery. My nutrionist suggested I try to lose at least 4 pounds a month. I found MFP and entered my information and listed my weight goal of 2 pounds per week and my activity level as sedentary. I began at 1480 calories per day, but gradually decreased as I lost weight. In 6 months I had lost 50 pounds and my doctors were as astounded as I was. So I just kept doing what I had been doing and chose to not have the surgery. By Dec. 2013 I had lost another 50 pounds. SInce then my weight loss has slowed but I think that is to be expected as my body adjusts. I have also increased my calories to 1380 per day and according to MFP I could lose 1 pound per week. I have plateaued in the last month, but I'm not worried about it as I have learned that if I eat at a deficit I will lose weight...it's inevitable, so I just keep on in good faith. I've lost nearly 20 more pounds since Jan, 2014 and I hope to lose another 50 by Dec. of this year, but even another 30 will make me very happy. It's not a race, it's a goal and it's about being healthier and having less pain and improved mobility. You need to read everything you can and educate youself as this information will help you tremendously for the longterm with or without surgery. Nutritionsts are a great asset but you need to learn what works for you AND what you can live with. There's not much of a point of a 1200 calorie diet if you find it intolerable. You can do this but be an active participant in the decisions made and always be proactive and express your concerns to your healthcare professionals. They'll appreciated your honesty and will want to work with you to make the best plan for YOU! Best of luck.0
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I don't have a lot of weight to loose. But I've been netting 1290 calories for nearly 2 months now. It's not hard. 1200 without exercising would be impossible for me. I'd have to live on protein shakes, and I'd have malnutrition. I'd probably die. Haha.
If you exercise a lot and net 1200 calories until you meet your weight goal it should be a breeze. You can even treat yourself everyday if you want, as long as you work for it. I want beer later, so I spent 90 minutes doing cardio after my weight lifting routine.
Protein is huge, don't even bother working out if you don't eat enough protein. It really is that simple.
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My opinion on why so many nutritionists put people on 1200 calories is as follows: Very few people need to be on such low calories to lose weight. No one who is obese needs to be on 1200 calories. Most people suck at counting calories. They forget to count things, they have cheat meals, the don't weigh food, they eat food that is difficult to track (out to eat, food prepared by others). If a nutritionist told you 1800 calories, which is more reasonable you may end up eating 2500+ due to miscounting. You don't lose weight, you blame the nutritionist, you fire them. If they tell you 1200 calories, you end up eating the 1700-1800 they actually want you on, you lose weight, they look like the genius. In the rare case you actually count 100% correctly and eat 1200 calories, you lose lots of weight really fast and then they up your calories the next time you meet with them...
1200 calories is way to low for almost everyone IF and only IF you count correctly.
You may actually have something there.
OP, 1200 calories is not a one size fits all count, so I am suspicious that a nutritionist would recommend that calorie goal for an entire group of people. I have seen nutritionists on MFP touting some pretty unscientific advice.0 -
Part of the reason for this diet is to see if you can follow directions and do what is required because those who succeed with lweight loss surgery have to comply with dietary restrictions for the rest of their life. 1200 calories give you adequate nutrition and losing as much weight as possible before surgery will improve liver function. Why you'd come here and question your nutritionist is beyond me. We aren't professionals. If we had the answers, we would be overweight now.0
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My opinion on why so many nutritionists put people on 1200 calories is as follows: Very few people need to be on such low calories to lose weight. No one who is obese needs to be on 1200 calories. Most people suck at counting calories. They forget to count things, they have cheat meals, the don't weigh food, they eat food that is difficult to track (out to eat, food prepared by others). If a nutritionist told you 1800 calories, which is more reasonable you may end up eating 2500+ due to miscounting. You don't lose weight, you blame the nutritionist, you fire them. If they tell you 1200 calories, you end up eating the 1700-1800 they actually want you on, you lose weight, they look like the genius. In the rare case you actually count 100% correctly and eat 1200 calories, you lose lots of weight really fast and then they up your calories the next time you meet with them...
1200 calories is way to low for almost everyone IF and only IF you count correctly.
I worry about this a lot. I sometimes add a little more to my diary to make up for what I may have missed. So far though I have weighed and measured everything.0 -
1200 seems too low, 1400-1600 would be more accurate and easier for you to control0
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I'm just curious. What are the guidelines for weighloss surgery? Do you have to be a special BMI or weight?0
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Part of the reason for this diet is to see if you can follow directions and do what is required because those who succeed with lweight loss surgery have to comply with dietary restrictions for the rest of their life.
^^This. If you decide to eat more than the 1200 calories, you need to be honest with the nutritionist about that, and probably leave the pre-surgery program, because you aren't demonstrating the ability for post-surgery compliance with calorie restrictions. (And if you can successfully stick to as little as 1200 calories, why not just lose weight in a non-surgical fashion at 1400 or 1500?)0 -
I tend to avoid disagreeing with someone's health care professional. My only question would be in regards to qualifications. Where I am, anyone can call themself a nutritionist. You can get an online degree for it. A Registered DIetician has a degree in their field and is regulated.0
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After years of morbid obesity, I decided to adopt a plant-based diet. I lost about 30 pounds in the first month and started gradually adding exercise and choosing whole grains over refined grains. I lost 185 pounds in about 14 months, over 50% of my body weight. My BMI went from 47.2 to 23.4. Now I have the energy and fitness to participate in endurance sports, such as cycling and running.
I didn't consistently count or worry about calories and I listened to my body about when and how much to eat. Generally, we feel full after eating a proper amount of whole fruits, vegetables, grains and legumes. It is much easier to overeat on calories if you are eating processed junk foods such as cookies, hamburgers, ice cream and the like. Obesity used to be nearly unheard of. Our food supply system is terribly broken.
That is my story. I know that counting calories would not have worked for me as a lifestyle change. Even if it produced short-term results, once I achieved success I would end up back where I started because no true change occurred. Everyone is different. Good luck.0 -
Your doctors /nutritionists are trained professionals so just do what they say to do.0
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I'm contemplating weight loss surgery after years and years of failed attempts at losing weight and then keeping it off. I've been going through the program at Kaiser so that my options are open, and the nutritionist wants us on a 1200 calorie diet with a focus on protein. Is 1200 calories too little? I've only been doing it for a few days, and it hasn't been that difficult. But if I can keep up my motivation to lose weight without the surgery I want to make sure that I'm optimizing my hard work. MFP recommends almost 1800 calories a day for weight loss, so I'm thinking of upping it to 1400-1550. I'd appreciate any thoughts/suggestions.
I didn't read the rest of the board, but I felt like this needed to be mentioned if it wasn't. While many times nutritionists can put people on too few calories because that's what they were taught to do, I don't believe that's the case here. You said you were looking at weight loss surgery. Often times patients will be put on a pre-surgery, low calorie diet to show that they are really ready for the commitment that having your stomach surgically shrunk will take. Because weight loss surgery, ultimately, is only a tool. You have to be prepared to change how you eat if you get it.
So, in this case, if your nutritionist is saying 1200 calories, it's probably to make sure you're prepared for the surgery.0 -
Thank you booksgiver, it helped.0
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My opinion on why so many nutritionists put people on 1200 calories is as follows: Very few people need to be on such low calories to lose weight. No one who is obese needs to be on 1200 calories. Most people suck at counting calories. They forget to count things, they have cheat meals, the don't weigh food, they eat food that is difficult to track (out to eat, food prepared by others). If a nutritionist told you 1800 calories, which is more reasonable you may end up eating 2500+ due to miscounting. You don't lose weight, you blame the nutritionist, you fire them. If they tell you 1200 calories, you end up eating the 1700-1800 they actually want you on, you lose weight, they look like the genius. In the rare case you actually count 100% correctly and eat 1200 calories, you lose lots of weight really fast and then they up your calories the next time you meet with them...
1200 calories is way to low for almost everyone IF and only IF you count correctly.
I totally totally agree. I believe people grossly underestimate their calories when left to their own devices. I watch a few BBC weight loss shows that illustrate how people can underestimate their calories by 100-200%!!! This is one of the reasons I don't like to log my food bc it is virtually impossible for me to know the exact amount unless Im eating everything out of packages or at restaurants that post their info. And to further illustrate this point I have a girlfriend who will swear up and down she eats `1200 calories a day. As shes telling me this, we sit at lunch and shes eating a giant bowl of minestrone soup along with a few pieces of bread. There were at least 3 cups of broth and a million beans in it. I asked her how in the world she survived on 1200 cals/day & she "explained" her lunch that day was only 300 calories. HA! the soup alone was easily 500calories just by virtue of the fact that it was a bucket load. The beans alone were probably 300cals.
As far as 1200 cals go I will say this- I went to one of those wellness/weightloss resorts where your food is portioned. This was 2 years ago and they had me on 1200/day. I was starving. The first day was fine by the 3rd day I was ready to die. 1200 is nothing imo.0 -
Books giver, your story is a great example of success.
I am in metric so I don't relate to pounds - but such a huge weight loss from a BMI of 61 and limited exercise capability, that is a great achievement!0 -
I'd have to agree with what was said earlier. Done properly, 1200 calories is "easy" (physically, if not mentally) to get by on. I had Gastric Bypass Surgery on April 2nd, 2014 and for the two weeks prior to that, The doctors had me on "three protein shakes a day plus 64 oz water".
All that protein and water, and I was never really physically hungry. Tempted? Yeah, because it was such a break from what I was used to, but 3 protein shakes was about... hmmm... 500 calories a day or so, so yeah, I could have done 1200 standing on my head...
Just so's ya know, after surgery, I am supposed to be doing two shakes a day and "mushy/soft" foods. My average intake so far since surgery is now up around 450 calories a day, and that's with me being absolutely "stuffed" all the time.
Protein shakes -- nasty as they may be after 2 or 3 a day for a couple of months -- do wonders for bringing off the weight and helping keep you mobile..
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The 1200 recommended calories was recommended for the entire class, I haven't visited with a nutritionist personally. I've been doing ok with the 1200 a day (lots of fresh fruit and veggies), but I don't want my body to go into starvation mode even though I'm eating adequately. I'm also just looking for advice, or anyone else's experience with eating so little. I am more than well aware that the internet is not a word to live by. Just want information so that I can make an educated decision with what's provided.
Starvation mode while eating 1200 calories?
You have some research to do!0 -
FWIW, I am completely satisfied on 1200 kcal/day. Not starvation mode by any means. Question: How do people who have reached their target weight post-surgery adjust to a maintenance diet with normal caloric intake?0
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