Weightlifting for Weightloss
irNathaniel
Posts: 178 Member
Hello MFP!
I come across lots of different information regarding weightlifting and weightloss - I would like to ask a simple question if anyone could help me.
I have read countless topics, blogs, information, magazines regarding this topic and I need some help to clear my head once and for all.
I will be getting a book - that was suggested by a Friend on my Friend list - but for now I am hoping you can help.
If you cannot gain Muscle on a deficiet (Except for noob gains) How does weightlifting help with weightloss? Muscle wont build, so you not gaining muscle mass, so there be no effect at all?
I dont see it - I just cant get my head around it.
I come across lots of different information regarding weightlifting and weightloss - I would like to ask a simple question if anyone could help me.
I have read countless topics, blogs, information, magazines regarding this topic and I need some help to clear my head once and for all.
I will be getting a book - that was suggested by a Friend on my Friend list - but for now I am hoping you can help.
If you cannot gain Muscle on a deficiet (Except for noob gains) How does weightlifting help with weightloss? Muscle wont build, so you not gaining muscle mass, so there be no effect at all?
I dont see it - I just cant get my head around it.
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Gaining muscle is not all that it is about . I was pretty sceptical about it myself when I started in december but just after a month I got comments like, hey , lookin better. Which was really surprizing since I havent lost any weight, or barely 2 pounds if that. On comparing some photos I concluded that lifting DOES improve your general posture and fixes a few aestethics here and there although dont expect a lot until well down the line. Your muscles ARE going to get trained and shaped even if you dont loose/gain which is going to show either way, needless to say you will feel a lot more energetic along the day than you would do just by dieting. Along that many people prefer lifting to cardio because its more manly or whatever.
A more complicated answer would be to do lifting to prevent muscle loss in case you have a lot of fat to drop (60+ pounds? totally pulled out of nowhere number). I am not really qualified to get into specifics but from personal observation my bench press went from 45 to 120 pounds in 4 months and I lost about 20 during that time. Feeling and looking a lot better now. I find it hard to believe that it has been for nothing, or I lost a lot of muscle and other nonsense the internet keeps spreading.0 -
For my goal weight I have around 55pounds to lose, im 252 - 250 now (depending lol) but my BF% is pretty high (38ish) On the BMI im obese..
I have noticed differences in my body since lifting, but not major - i will get there, I just want to directly lose weight - gaining muscle is supposed to help that. It is confusing, although Simple haha.0 -
You will have some lean body mass increase with resistance training of any type and specific neuromuscular adaptation even in a deficit but it will be a lot less than LBM gain than when bulking. The larger the deficit the smaller the possible gain.
However, the real reason to carry out resistance training in weight loss has various positive aspects -
1) minimize LBM loss - if you lose a little muscle then your metabolism goes down a little (at about 21 cals / lb lost / day more or less based on activity). It isn't much, but it can add up. You want to maintain LBM during weight loss.
2) non-linear loss - weight loss is, in general, in consistent. You'll have weeks that you don't follow well, you'll actually be in calorie excess. Small gains in muscle then will be a benefit.
3) hormonal and physiological balance - physical activity has other pluses such as bone retention, strength development, hormonal pluses that will help stay the course during weight loss and balance some of the hunger signaling and stress hormones.
4) fitness and capability - aside from weight loss, your goals might include the ability to do things. Resistance training is about that.
5) calorie burns - resistance training, while not as significant as other activities does provide some calorie burns. This can help slightly in weight loss.
If weight loss is your only concern, it isn't needed. If being healthy and active and being able to do stuff for a long time is a personal goal, resistance training of some sort should be part of your plan.
In short: resistance training isn't about losing weight, but in losing weight, resistance training helps retain muscle and provides other benefits.0 -
lifting weight is not necessarily about weight loss.
It is exercise however and burns calories so it does add to the deficet from your intake.
weight lifting is about maintaining the muscle you currently have (along with enough protien) you build strength.
If you are maintaining muscle the weight loss will mostly be fat...and isn't that what this is all about losing fat...
As PP indicated my bench has gone from 45lbs to almost 125lbs in 7 months and as a woman...well you can't argue that is not a definate strength increase.0 -
Ok, It make's alot more sense now - Clear and Simple - I do have healthy life style and fitness included in my plan and goal.
Thanks for the info.0 -
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Evgeni, that is one of the most helpful and concise explanations I have read for the benefits of weight-lifting whilst eating at a calorie deficit. Thank you.0
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I find the best training involves weight and body weight exercises. People who do both are never obese. There's little need for cardio. Here's why:
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/do-we-systematically-underestimate.html
"For Mr. Average Joe with a body weight of 80kg, this would mean that his 30 minutes body weight workout doesn't consume 288kcal, but 576kcal and thus way more than 30min of jogging, which should cost him ~400kcal.
Bottom line: I guess I don't have to tell you that these results are very important. Not for you, obviously, because you as a SuppVersity reader know about the fallacy of working out to burn energy, but for all those Average Joes and specifically Janes out there who still believe that you'd lose weight by simply burning all the junk you eat off in the gym.
Cardio "addicts" would yet not be the only ones for whom these results - if they turn out to be substantial - would have huge consequences. The average "expert" on the panels we owe the wise dietary and exercise guidelines to, would probably also have to revise his opinion on the primary of "cardio" exercise for its "superior ability to help shed weight"... unfortunately, my gut tells me that I am the only one who even noticed the (future) publication of this paper in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning."0 -
The goal of lifting while in a deficit is not to build muscle but to maintain the muscle you currently have. Yes, if you are new to weight training, and you are using an intelligently designed program focusing on progression it is possible to see some "newbie gains" for a short time but those gains are short lived and before long you will be in the same boat as everyone else, only being able to lose fat while in a deficit. Your body doesn't care where it gets its energy, be it food, stored fat, or muscle. Lifting heavy, and eating plenty of protein, gives your body a reason to hold on to the muscle you have and use stored fat for energy. In the end the ratio of muscle to fat will be more because you are maintaining muscle and losing fat which will aid in fat loss because muscle requires an energy source to maintain itself where as fat does not, it's just there.0
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