Maybe I missed something- no chocolate milk in schools?

So the trending topic in my area (CT) for the last few days is how they are removing chocolate milk from school lunches across the state. I have yet to hear what their reasoning is.... just that it's most likely going to happen. I even heard a radio station say that parents will be happy about it. I'm sorry, did I miss something? Compared to a lot of the food that they're serving to children in these school cafeterias chocolate milk is the least of their problems. I would love to hear WHY it's being removed.... personally, I don't find anything wrong with chocolate milk. I actually drink it as part of recovery from my workouts.
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  • Miss_XVX
    Miss_XVX Posts: 8 Member
    As I am not a citizen of the United States, I needed to read some articles about this topic. I clearly understand that they intend to reduce the amount of sugar that kids consume on a daily basis.

    But what I found rather shocking was the report of a school teacher in which she said that many kids use to throw away their vegetables and "real" food. She compared days when hamburgers, fries and similar stuff was served with days when carrots and other vegetables were on the menue. While they need two trashcans on hamburger days they need up to ten trashcans on the other days.

    I have also seen a documentation about school dinner in the UK where kids literally erupted in tantrums because they were offered vegetables instead of fries.

    And I think that is what's going wrong. Chocolate milk won't do any harm to kids with a healthy nutrition.
  • corgicake
    corgicake Posts: 846 Member
    Probably because chocolate milk = more calories. Never mind that last I heard school lunches in the US had a calorie minimum... no, that was not a typo.
  • _JPunky
    _JPunky Posts: 508 Member
    Probably because chocolate milk = more calories. Never mind that last I heard school lunches in the US had a calorie minimum... no, that was not a typo.

    I agree that we need to teach our kids to eat healthy and make smart food choices, but I would assume that the reason that there is a calorie minimum is because these are growing children that don't need to be on "diets".

    Also, there are a lot of areas in the US where the poverty level is high and that school lunch is the only meal a child is getting every day.

    Put into that perspective, I don't think the calorie minimum is the problem.
  • aribugg
    aribugg Posts: 164 Member
    Maybe they dont have it anymore, or maybe the kids just dont care, but when i was a little kid there was a giant colorful nutrition triangle posted on every wall of the lunchroom. we were taught nothing about calories, but i remember one day we had a guest speaker come in and teach about what our body needs. maybe with the educational cut backs, things like this dont happen anymore. but its still not in our schools hands to teach the children these things, it's what happens at home.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    It's because of the sugar.

    I don't know how many parents are actually happy about it, though. I have an acquaintance who's super crazy about this kind of thing and she posted on FB about wanting other parents to join her crusade against flavored milk in schools. Every single person who commented on her post basically told her to get bent.
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  • Galatea_Stone
    Galatea_Stone Posts: 2,037 Member
    Probably because chocolate milk = more calories. Never mind that last I heard school lunches in the US had a calorie minimum... no, that was not a typo.

    Of course there's a calorie minimum. It would be awful if they weren't being served enough food. What part of that do you find funny?

    I agree. It isn't funny in the slightest. There was a trend in several school districts in 2012 to cut the calories in school lunches based on USDA recommendations, and it backfired. The lunches served were NOT enough to sustain growing kids. Yes, there's obesity here, but there are also plenty of active kids who benefit from the added calories. Athletes, for example, could easily need 5000 calories a day in their teens. a 600 calorie school lunch isn't going to do anything for them.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    As I am not a citizen of the United States, I needed to read some articles about this topic. I clearly understand that they intend to reduce the amount of sugar that kids consume on a daily basis.

    But what I found rather shocking was the report of a school teacher in which she said that many kids use to throw away their vegetables and "real" food. She compared days when hamburgers, fries and similar stuff was served with days when carrots and other vegetables were on the menue. While they need two trashcans on hamburger days they need up to ten trashcans on the other days.

    I have also seen a documentation about school dinner in the UK where kids literally erupted in tantrums because they were offered vegetables instead of fries.

    And I think that is what's going wrong. Chocolate milk won't do any harm to kids with a healthy nutrition.

    It's partly because the veggies look like death on a plate.

    But yes, my experience standing lunch duty backs up what you've read.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Probably because chocolate milk = more calories. Never mind that last I heard school lunches in the US had a calorie minimum... no, that was not a typo.

    Of course there's a calorie minimum. It would be awful if they weren't being served enough food. What part of that do you find funny?

    I agree. It isn't funny in the slightest. There was a trend in several school districts in 2012 to cut the calories in school lunches based on USDA recommendations, and it backfired. The lunches served were NOT enough to sustain growing kids. Yes, there's obesity here, but there are also plenty of active kids who benefit from the added calories. Athletes, for example, could easily need 5000 calories a day in their teens. a 600 calorie school lunch isn't going to do anything for them.

    And in many poverty-stricken areas (like where I taught in rural Arkansas) school breakfast and school lunch are the only meals a lot of kids get. We'd catch tons of kids stealing extra milk to take home with them.
  • gypsy_spirit
    gypsy_spirit Posts: 2,107 Member
    Mmmmmmmmmmmmm, chocolate milk.

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  • atsteele
    atsteele Posts: 1,358 Member
    Removing chocolate milk as an option is idiotic. Now those kids who would only drink chocolate milk won't drink anything. Did you know that the student HAS to pick up a milk product (even if they are lactose intolerant) when they buy the school lunch? So not only will kids not drink the milk but it will be wasted as well. Good job, government officials!!
  • atsteele
    atsteele Posts: 1,358 Member
    Probably because chocolate milk = more calories. Never mind that last I heard school lunches in the US had a calorie minimum... no, that was not a typo.

    Of course there's a calorie minimum. It would be awful if they weren't being served enough food. What part of that do you find funny?

    I agree. It isn't funny in the slightest. There was a trend in several school districts in 2012 to cut the calories in school lunches based on USDA recommendations, and it backfired. The lunches served were NOT enough to sustain growing kids. Yes, there's obesity here, but there are also plenty of active kids who benefit from the added calories. Athletes, for example, could easily need 5000 calories a day in their teens. a 600 calorie school lunch isn't going to do anything for them.

    And in many poverty-stricken areas (like where I taught in rural Arkansas) school breakfast and school lunch are the only meals a lot of kids get. We'd catch tons of kids stealing extra milk to take home with them.

    Omgosh! This is so sad. :(
  • bravid98
    bravid98 Posts: 80 Member
    My kids don't like the food they serve in their elementary school so they pack everyday. It's nice actually because we can make sure they are getting a nutritious meal and not get the chocolate milk (loaded w/ sugar).

    Back when I was in school it wasn't cool to pack your lunch, but thankfully that seems to have passed.
  • bravid98
    bravid98 Posts: 80 Member

    And in many poverty-stricken areas (like where I taught in rural Arkansas) school breakfast and school lunch are the only meals a lot of kids get. We'd catch tons of kids stealing extra milk to take home with them.

    Omgosh! This is so sad. :(

    In the district next to us one of the elementary schools sends dinner home with kids who don't get enough food at home. Churches and donations help keep the program going.
  • atsteele
    atsteele Posts: 1,358 Member

    And in many poverty-stricken areas (like where I taught in rural Arkansas) school breakfast and school lunch are the only meals a lot of kids get. We'd catch tons of kids stealing extra milk to take home with them.

    Omgosh! This is so sad. :(

    In the district next to us one of the elementary schools sends dinner home with kids who don't get enough food at home. Churches and donations help keep the program going.

    That's awesome!! In America, in the land of plenty, there shouldn't be one kid who goes hungry.
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  • nilbogger
    nilbogger Posts: 870 Member
    I'm also in CT and from what I've seen on Facebook a lot of parents are really butthurt about it.

    I don't see the problem. In my opinion chocolate milk should be a treat, not something you have with lunch every day. If your kids refuse to drink anything else that's due to lazy parenting, isn't it? And of course you can give them a nice, big glass of chocolate milk when they get home if you like.

    I'm pretty surprised that people are blaming the schools for the fact that their kids are throwing away perfectly good food.
  • Platform_Heels
    Platform_Heels Posts: 388 Member
    Probably because chocolate milk = more calories. Never mind that last I heard school lunches in the US had a calorie minimum... no, that was not a typo.

    That's just it though. There's not a ton more calories in Chocolate milk. Fat Free TrueMoo brand has 120 calories. The "low fat" version has 140. Regular milk has 110 calories so it's not a significant difference.

    Their reasoning (I'm from CT also) is that there is a lot of SODIUM (?) and HFCS in it which I personally stay away from HFCS but again there are brands (TrueMoo) that uses cocoa and regular sugar. The state will get money if they take out the chocolate milk which is a joke because that money will go right back into their own pockets instead of going towards things like, oh say fixing the road situation? They actually put up ROAD CLOSED LOCAL TRAFFIC ONLY signs on one of the roads that leads to my house because they don't want to fill in the pot holes!

    But any way, what they fail to realize is that taking out the chocolate milk isn't going to fix the obesity problem and they will end up wasting money on regular milk because the kids who preferred the chocolate won't drink it. But you will have our dumbass lawmakers backing our useless Governor and get this ridiculous law on the books.
  • nilbogger
    nilbogger Posts: 870 Member
    I always chuckle to myself at a generation of kids raised on chocolate milk in schools, now banning it for their own kids.

    I used to drink chocolate milk with my lunch fairly often when I was in elemntary school. I had no idea how much sugar was in it. I assumed it was healthy because the school was serving it.
  • StraubreyR
    StraubreyR Posts: 631 Member
    Surprisingly, the reason it is going to fall under the ban is the added sodium. The bill restricts the sodium content of foods served, and chocolate milk happens to have enough added sodium to fall under the ban. Apparently, it was a last minute bill with unintended consequences.
  • Platform_Heels
    Platform_Heels Posts: 388 Member
    I always chuckle to myself at a generation of kids raised on chocolate milk in schools, now banning it for their own kids.

    I used to drink chocolate milk with my lunch fairly often when I was in elemntary school. I had no idea how much sugar was in it. I assumed it was healthy because the school was serving it.

    I drank it too because it was so sweet!
  • trijoe
    trijoe Posts: 729 Member
    Removing chocolate milk as an option is idiotic. Now those kids who would only drink chocolate milk won't drink anything. Did you know that the student HAS to pick up a milk product (even if they are lactose intolerant) when they buy the school lunch? So not only will kids not drink the milk but it will be wasted as well. Good job, government officials!!

    This isn't true in our neck of the woods. In my kids' elementary school, they have a choice of 2% milk, chocolate milk, bottled water, and juice drink (This is the one that ticks me off - For pete's sake, at least make it pure juice. The kids don't know they're grabbing juice flavored corn syrup. I know this, because many kids have told me they're drinking delicious, healthy juice.). They're allowed to take 2 - any 2.

    So my hunch is, this is a local thing. Could be your school board, could even be the meal providers. Let's not forget that in today's USA, most school meals are provided by companies that are hired by the school board. You may want to contact the food service provider and raise a little Holy Hell with them first, then go up the government chain.
  • nilbogger
    nilbogger Posts: 870 Member
    I always chuckle to myself at a generation of kids raised on chocolate milk in schools, now banning it for their own kids.

    I used to drink chocolate milk with my lunch fairly often when I was in elemntary school. I had no idea how much sugar was in it. I assumed it was healthy because the school was serving it.

    I drank it too because it was so sweet!

    I definitely knew it had more sugar than regular milk, but I don't think I would have believed it had almost as much sugar as a Snickers bar. Had I know that I might have thought, damn,, can I just have a Snickers instead of milk?
  • Christizzzle
    Christizzzle Posts: 454 Member
    I'm also in CT and from what I've seen on Facebook a lot of parents are really butthurt about it.

    I don't see the problem. In my opinion chocolate milk should be a treat, not something you have with lunch every day. If your kids refuse to drink anything else that's due to lazy parenting, isn't it? And of course you can give them a nice, big glass of chocolate milk when they get home if you like.

    I'm pretty surprised that people are blaming the schools for the fact that their kids are throwing away perfectly good food.

    At most school, kids are required to pick up everything in the lunch line knowing that they wont eat it. So throwing food away is the parents fault?
  • bcf7683
    bcf7683 Posts: 1,653 Member
    This entire thread reaffirms my decision my senior year of college to ditch teaching and become a graphic designer :drinker:
  • It's just prejudice: White milk builds strong body's and teeth; Chocolate milk is bad for you.
    Frosted flakes are "great" but you're koo-koo if you like coco puffs.
    White rice is fine; but once it gets dark, they call it "wild" or "dirty" rice.
    They keep the green olives in jars where every body can see them; but the black olives have to be locked up in a can!
  • bcf7683
    bcf7683 Posts: 1,653 Member
    Removing chocolate milk as an option is idiotic. Now those kids who would only drink chocolate milk won't drink anything. Did you know that the student HAS to pick up a milk product (even if they are lactose intolerant) when they buy the school lunch? So not only will kids not drink the milk but it will be wasted as well. Good job, government officials!!

    This isn't true in our neck of the woods. In my kids' elementary school, they have a choice of 2% milk, chocolate milk, bottled water, and juice drink (This is the one that ticks me off - For pete's sake, at least make it pure juice. The kids don't know they're grabbing juice flavored corn syrup. I know this, because many kids have told me they're drinking delicious, healthy juice.). They're allowed to take 2 - any 2.

    So my hunch is, this is a local thing. Could be your school board, could even be the meal providers. Let's not forget that in today's USA, most school meals are provided by companies that are hired by the school board. You may want to contact the food service provider and raise a little Holy Hell with them first, then go up the government chain.

    I graduated high school in 2007 and we were required to take a milk before the wonderful lunch ladies would let us even leave the line. Most of it ended up in the trash while everyone went back up and bought an iced tea or something else.
  • Platform_Heels
    Platform_Heels Posts: 388 Member
    I'm also in CT and from what I've seen on Facebook a lot of parents are really butthurt about it.

    I don't see the problem. In my opinion chocolate milk should be a treat, not something you have with lunch every day. If your kids refuse to drink anything else that's due to lazy parenting, isn't it? And of course you can give them a nice, big glass of chocolate milk when they get home if you like.

    I'm pretty surprised that people are blaming the schools for the fact that their kids are throwing away perfectly good food.

    At most school, kids are required to pick up everything in the lunch line knowing that they wont eat it. So throwing food away is the parents fault?

    In a way though it is. When I was a kid they posted the weekly menu in the news paper. My mom and I went through and picked out what appealed to me for a hot lunch and those were the days I didn't brown bag it. I don't have kids so I don't know whether or not they still do that but I never had a lunch that I didn't eat there. But then again I think the food that was served back when I was in elementary school was slightly better than it is now. Although I did get yelled at once from one of the lunch ladies because I wanted to eat my vanilla pudding before my meal. :( I got told I couldn't do that. :(
  • Platform_Heels
    Platform_Heels Posts: 388 Member
    It's just prejudice: White milk builds strong body's and teeth; Chocolate milk is bad for you.
    Frosted flakes are "great" but you're koo-koo if you like coco puffs.
    White rice is fine; but once it gets dark, they call it "wild" or "dirty" rice.
    They keep the green olives in jars where every body can see them; but the black olives have to be locked up in a can!

    :laugh:
  • nilbogger
    nilbogger Posts: 870 Member
    I'm also in CT and from what I've seen on Facebook a lot of parents are really butthurt about it.

    I don't see the problem. In my opinion chocolate milk should be a treat, not something you have with lunch every day. If your kids refuse to drink anything else that's due to lazy parenting, isn't it? And of course you can give them a nice, big glass of chocolate milk when they get home if you like.

    I'm pretty surprised that people are blaming the schools for the fact that their kids are throwing away perfectly good food.

    At most school, kids are required to pick up everything in the lunch line knowing that they wont eat it. So throwing food away is the parents fault?

    If it's happening all the time, yes. Or if you like, you can blame the kids for being picky.