Getting rid of belly fat - Am I doing it right?

liampotter27 · May 2014

I 25, male, a smoker, and I am a rather odd shape. My lower legs and arms are well toned so all of my excess weight is on my 'moobs', bum, thighs... but mostly my belly. As in I look pregnant and 2 months overdue...

I was approximately 14st 3.5lb before I decided enough was enough and I needed to get fit. I've spent the last 2-3 years breathing in and I'm now doing it 95% of the time without even noticing!

Before I started my new diet and exercise, my routine was usually:

- No breakfast
- Several cups of coffee per day (probably around 5-8) with milk and 1-2 sugars
- A snack in the morning
- A lunch, usually consisting of a sandwich (with some sloppy mayo filling), a bag of crisps, a fizzy drink and a chocolate bar
- A snack in the afternoon
- An evening meal, regardless of whether or not it was a healthy option, and of which 2-3 per week were takeaway/fast-food meals
- Several snacks in the evening (usually a small feast before going to bed!)... bags of crisps, chocolate, snack sausages... basically whatever was quick and easy
- Only exercise was 2-3 bouts of 1 hour of football (soccer) each week

I have now changed to the following:

- Breakfast biscuits for breakfast, I've been told this kick starts my metabolism in the morning?
- 1 coffee with milk, but no sugar
- No snacks between breakfast and lunch
- Dolmio PastaVita for lunch (various flavours!)
- No snacks in the afternoon
- An evening meal, usually a healthy option where possible, but sometimes resorting to fast food/takeaway once a week
- A banana before hitting the gym for an hour between 8-9pm, usually burning 400-500 kcal per session - 3-4 times per week
- No snacks on an evening, but sometimes feel so hungry I have to have a snack but I limit this to 1 quick item (usually a piece of fruit)
- Still doing 2-3 bouts of 1 hour of football each week.

I started approximately 3 weeks ago and last night my scales reckoned I was 13st 7.5lb, although positioning the scales somewhere else on the floor can make it read 13st 11lb, so I'm not really sure of my exact weight any more!!

I have a few quick questions to see if I am doing things right - Ideally I'd like to be less under 12.5st come September but my priority is focused on getting my belly to reduce in size so that I can stop breathing in and not see the huge bump:

1. I cannot see as much weight loss as I would have expected given the dramatic reduction in calories and massive increase in exercise. I've read that weight loss will be all over my body, before attempting to even out by taking fat from where it is most - is this true? And if so, how long (given my new regime) will it be before I can expect to see results?

2. I've read that the breakfast biscuits (or any breakfast for that matter) helps to kick-start your metabolism in the morning. Is this true? And if so, what is the benefit of this and is there an ideal time to eat breakfast?

3. I currently go to the gym between 8 and 9pm (after my evening meal) and do the treadmill for 45 mins (300-400 calories), then the stepper for 15 mins (200-300 calories). Sometimes I do the rower for 10 mins (150 calories) to warm up and reduce the treadmill time accordingly. Is there an ideal time to do the gym session? And could my time be better used with the equipment (e.g. more stepper, less treadmill)?

Thank you very much for any assistance!

EDIT - I would just like to add that I will not spend time calorie counting. I'm now just more aware of how many calories I am consuming so I can consume responsibly. I am also going to quit smoking as soon as possible, but having failed on 4 previous attempts it will be difficult. It is most definitely making my gym sessions difficult!

liampotter27 · May 2014

Bump - anyone? :-(

MityMax96 · May 2014

My advice

Figure out how many calories u need daily.
Then eat -20% of that number.
Get proper protein, fats and carbs to make up those calories.

Then start lifting weights, doing full body routines, comprising of compound lifts.
Squats, Bench press, dead lifts, chin/pull ups, dips, shoulder press

MityMax96 · May 2014

EDIT - I would just like to add that I will not spend time calorie counting. I'm now just more aware of how many calories I am consuming so I can consume responsibly. I am also going to quit smoking as soon as possible, but having failed on 4 previous attempts it will be difficult. It is most definitely making my gym sessions difficult!

uhm, then you will never achieve what you want.

If you want to lose weight.
You need to know how many calories you are consuming.
And how many calories you actually need.

So if you are not gonna put in the time and energy to log and track what you eat.....
Then don't bother doing this.

liampotter27 · May 2014

EDIT - I would just like to add that I will not spend time calorie counting. I'm now just more aware of how many calories I am consuming so I can consume responsibly. I am also going to quit smoking as soon as possible, but having failed on 4 previous attempts it will be difficult. It is most definitely making my gym sessions difficult!

uhm, then you will never achieve what you want.

If you want to lose weight.
You need to know how many calories you are consuming.
And how many calories you actually need.

So if you are not gonna put in the time and energy to log and track what you eat.....
Then don't bother doing this.

I only say I'm not calorie counting because I know I am eating at least 500 calories less per day than I used to, and I'm also burning off 500 with almost daily exercise. I'm not calorie counting to an exact science but I'm definitely aware of roughly how many I am eating so that it is consistently 500 or so less per day.

MityMax96 · May 2014

EDIT - I would just like to add that I will not spend time calorie counting. I'm now just more aware of how many calories I am consuming so I can consume responsibly. I am also going to quit smoking as soon as possible, but having failed on 4 previous attempts it will be difficult. It is most definitely making my gym sessions difficult!

uhm, then you will never achieve what you want.

If you want to lose weight.
You need to know how many calories you are consuming.
And how many calories you actually need.

So if you are not gonna put in the time and energy to log and track what you eat.....
Then don't bother doing this.

I only say I'm not calorie counting because I know I am eating at least 500 calories less per day than I used to, and I'm also burning off 500 with almost daily exercise. I'm not calorie counting to an exact science but I'm definitely aware of roughly how many I am eating so that it is consistently 500 or so less per day.

Ok then mate.

Good Luck.

csy108 · May 2014

EDIT - I would just like to add that I will not spend time calorie counting.

That's your choice, but if you don't record your calories and measure your foods accurately, you will never know for sure whether or not you're eating a calorie deficit or how much of one you are eating.

As for the rest of your question - I believe my body is a lot like yours. I do not like the shape at all - a lot of clothes fit pretty weird and my waist seems disproportionately large. I wish I could take inches off of there first, but I'm sure it will not work the way I want it.

I started doing a good bit more cardio and a weight program three weeks ago. I also started weighing/measuring all my food and calculating the expected calorie deficit and weight loss in a spreadsheet based on my total daily energy expenditure (http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/ http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy). I didn't see the results I was hoping for during the first two weeks. In fact, I only lost about a pound in two weeks and I know I have a lot to lose. But during week three, guess what - lost 2 1/2 inches from waist and hips and 4 more scale pounds. Most of all, the scale weight loss fit exactly what I expected on the spreadsheet, so I know my estimated calorie deficit is pretty close.

liampotter27 · May 2014

My advice

Figure out how many calories u need daily.
Then eat -20% of that number.
Get proper protein, fats and carbs to make up those calories.

Then start lifting weights, doing full body routines, comprising of compound lifts.
Squats, Bench press, dead lifts, chin/pull ups, dips, shoulder press

I've tried weights previously but I simply do not have the strength. :-(

Are the treadmill/rower/stepper no good?

MityMax96 · May 2014

My advice

Figure out how many calories u need daily.
Then eat -20% of that number.
Get proper protein, fats and carbs to make up those calories.

Then start lifting weights, doing full body routines, comprising of compound lifts.
Squats, Bench press, dead lifts, chin/pull ups, dips, shoulder press

I've tried weights previously but I simply do not have the strength. :-(

Are the treadmill/rower/stepper no good?

if you want to be a smaller version of what you are now, then do the stuff you listed.

If you want to be smaller, and have some muscle definition showing, then weight lifting is required.

We are all lacking in strength when we start out...but as time goes, you get stronger.

I started out the same way back in high school struggling to bench 95 lbs.
Today I can do about 255 or so....

liampotter27 · May 2014

EDIT - I would just like to add that I will not spend time calorie counting.

That's your choice, but if you don't record your calories and measure your foods accurately, you will never know for sure whether or not you're eating a calorie deficit or how much of one you are eating.

As for the rest of your question - I believe my body is a lot like yours. I do not like the shape at all - a lot of clothes fit pretty weird and my waist seems disproportionately large. I wish I could take inches off of there first, but I'm sure it will not work the way I want it.

I started doing a good bit more cardio and a weight program three weeks ago. I also started weighing/measuring all my food and calculating the expected calorie deficit and weight loss in a spreadsheet based on my total daily energy expenditure (http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/ http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy). I didn't see the results I was hoping for during the first two weeks. In fact, I only lost about a pound in two weeks and I know I have a lot to lose. But during week three, guess what - lost 2 1/2 inches from waist and hips and 4 more scale pounds. Most of all, the scale weight loss fit exactly what I expected on the spreadsheet, so I know my estimated calorie deficit is pretty close.

It's more because I know I'm eating less than I used to, and by a high margin. The app says I should be aiming for a net of approx. 1400 calories per day. Previously my net was likely 2500+ per day, and my initial calculations from my new 'regime' works out approx. 1300 net calories per day, if not less.

My cardio programme is as per my original post, but I simply do not have the strength (or free time) for weight training. I'm lucky to get the 1hr at the gym per night, with having a wife and two young children!

I'll definitely take a look at the spreadsheet though, thank you :-)

csy108 · May 2014

I've tried weights previously but I simply do not have the strength. :-(

If you lacked the strength then you were just trying to lift too much. You have to find the right starting place and then do a routine from there to gradually build muscle and strength. Real weight training folks on here can give you full, proper routines. I can tell you that even doing a couple exercises (bench press, pull downs, bicep curls, leg press, crunches) for like 20 minutes three times a week will give you increased strength and energy, even though it's not a complete routine.

Also, you might see even better results doing 30 minutes cardio and 30 minutes weights instead of 1 hour of cardio. And make sure, even if you refuse to lift, that you get enough protein in your diet.

liampotter27 · May 2014

My advice

Figure out how many calories u need daily.
Then eat -20% of that number.
Get proper protein, fats and carbs to make up those calories.

Then start lifting weights, doing full body routines, comprising of compound lifts.
Squats, Bench press, dead lifts, chin/pull ups, dips, shoulder press

I've tried weights previously but I simply do not have the strength. :-(

Are the treadmill/rower/stepper no good?

if you want to be a smaller version of what you are now, then do the stuff you listed.

If you want to be smaller, and have some muscle definition showing, then weight lifting is required.

We are all lacking in strength when we start out...but as time goes, you get stronger.

I started out the same way back in high school struggling to bench 95 lbs.
Today I can do about 255 or so....

I'm definitely aiming just for a slim physique (like I used to have when I was younger) and getting rid of the beer belly, rather than bulking up.

Thank you for your advice though, much appreciated!

Mr_Knight · May 2014

I only say I'm not calorie counting because I know I am eating at least 500 calories less per day than I used to, and I'm also burning off 500 with almost daily exercise. I'm not calorie counting to an exact science but I'm definitely aware of roughly how many I am eating so that it is consistently 500 or so less per day.

500 less than what?

If you don't know how many you were eating before, you don't know that you're eating at a deficit now.

liampotter27 · May 2014

To everyone suggesting weights, I'll try half an hour on the treadmill and half an hour with some weights at my next session. I'll try and keep this up too!

Thank you all for your suggestions and help, from a very appreciative newbie!

MityMax96 · May 2014

My advice

Figure out how many calories u need daily.
Then eat -20% of that number.
Get proper protein, fats and carbs to make up those calories.

Then start lifting weights, doing full body routines, comprising of compound lifts.
Squats, Bench press, dead lifts, chin/pull ups, dips, shoulder press

I've tried weights previously but I simply do not have the strength. :-(

Are the treadmill/rower/stepper no good?

if you want to be a smaller version of what you are now, then do the stuff you listed.

If you want to be smaller, and have some muscle definition showing, then weight lifting is required.

We are all lacking in strength when we start out...but as time goes, you get stronger.

I started out the same way back in high school struggling to bench 95 lbs.
Today I can do about 255 or so....

I'm definitely aiming just for a slim physique (like I used to have when I was younger) and getting rid of the beer belly, rather than bulking up.

Thank you for your advice though, much appreciated!

Weight lifting would still help you in this goal....My opinion.

I mean I have been lifting for 20 yrs now....
I don't look like Ronnie Coleman.

so a slim physique is still doable....with weight lifting.
You may be even happier with the results.

But good luck

liampotter27 · May 2014

I only say I'm not calorie counting because I know I am eating at least 500 calories less per day than I used to, and I'm also burning off 500 with almost daily exercise. I'm not calorie counting to an exact science but I'm definitely aware of roughly how many I am eating so that it is consistently 500 or so less per day.

500 less than what?

If you don't know how many you were eating before, you don't know that you're eating at a deficit now.

Before: regular snacks, huge meals, fizzy drinks, a midnight feast of crisps and chocolate every night, rare exercise, hardly any water.

After: breakfast biscuits, pasta pot lunch, small portioned evening meal, no snacks (and if I feel like a snack it's a piece of fruit), no fizzy drinks, plenty of water, almost daily exercis of approx. 500 calories burned.

My deficit is definitely at least 500, if not nearer to 1000.

stef_monster · May 2014

1. Genetics determines how your body loses fat. There's no way to target fat loss in a specific area. Some people lose it all over, some people in their belly, some in their thighs, etc. A measuring tape to measure inches lost and some progress pics will be your best friends. Also, weight loss takes time. You didn't gain it all in a month, so you won't lose it all in a month, either.

MFP and various other sources will tell you that a deficit of 3500 calories over the course of a week will make you lose one pound. Since you're not counting calories, you won't know what your true deficit is because gym machine calorie counts are notoriously inaccurate. Perhaps look into getting a pedometer or a heart rate monitor to give you more accurate info on your burns.

2. If you don't feel like eating in the morning, don't. Personally, I can barely function without breakfast, but some people aren't hungry until lunchtime. Eat when you are hungry- as long as you're hitting your calorie and macro goals, meal timing won't have much effect on weight loss.

3. Cardio is fantastic for building endurance, burning calories and therefore creating a deeper deficit, and improving cardiovascular health. Some people prefer lower impact cardio (swimming, elliptical, arc trainer) because it's easier on their joints. If you're running with poor form or old shoes, you could start experiencing joint pain if you overdo it.

That being said, weight lifting will make you look good naked. Look into Stronglifts, Starting Strength, or New Rules of Lifting for great programs. Those weight sessions usually only take about 20-30 minutes 3 times per week, leaving you plenty of time for 30 minutes or so of high intensity cardio on those nights and your regular cardio routine on the other nights.

Good luck!

TR0berts · May 2014

I only say I'm not calorie counting because I know I am eating at least 500 calories less per day than I used to, and I'm also burning off 500 with almost daily exercise. I'm not calorie counting to an exact science but I'm definitely aware of roughly how many I am eating so that it is consistently 500 or so less per day.

This means nothing. Seriously. Absolutely nothing. Unless you know how many Calories you need to maintain your current weight and count what you eat moving forward - and ensure that you are below that number - then it's all just a crapshoot. If you were eating 1000 Calories over maintenance before, and luck out and now eat/burn off 1000 Calories less than that, you'll just maintain.

liampotter27 · May 2014

My advice

Figure out how many calories u need daily.
Then eat -20% of that number.
Get proper protein, fats and carbs to make up those calories.

Then start lifting weights, doing full body routines, comprising of compound lifts.
Squats, Bench press, dead lifts, chin/pull ups, dips, shoulder press

I've tried weights previously but I simply do not have the strength. :-(

Are the treadmill/rower/stepper no good?

if you want to be a smaller version of what you are now, then do the stuff you listed.

If you want to be smaller, and have some muscle definition showing, then weight lifting is required.

We are all lacking in strength when we start out...but as time goes, you get stronger.

I started out the same way back in high school struggling to bench 95 lbs.
Today I can do about 255 or so....

I'm definitely aiming just for a slim physique (like I used to have when I was younger) and getting rid of the beer belly, rather than bulking up.

Thank you for your advice though, much appreciated!

Weight lifting would still help you in this goal....My opinion.

I mean I have been lifting for 20 yrs now....
I don't look like Ronnie Coleman.

so a slim physique is still doable....with weight lifting.
You may be even happier with the results.

But good luck

Yeah, I misread one now your posts, I definitely don't want to be a smaller version of what I am now. I'll try 30 mins cardio and 30 mins weights at my next session.

TiberiusClaudis · May 2014

My advice

Figure out how many calories u need daily.
Then eat -20% of that number.
Get proper protein, fats and carbs to make up those calories.

Then start lifting weights, doing full body routines, comprising of compound lifts.
Squats, Bench press, dead lifts, chin/pull ups, dips, shoulder press

Words to live by this ^^^^. I also believed I was eatting healthy and less..but I was stuck at a certain weight/BF forever. Then i finally broke down, bought a food scale and started logging. Within a day my eyes were open wider. I had no idea how many calories were in condiments, let alone sodium. I was eatting a lot of stir fries...thinking the meat/vegs would do me good..which of course they do, but I was sabotaging it all with the amount of soy sauce I was using. Also, if you are really serious, and this is going to hurt...stop drinking all, and I mean all booze. Liquids in general are often filled with empty calories. So now I only drink water, coffee...i do drink protein shakes but of course I use water in them.

At the end of the day, you will end up with the body you deserve. Up to you to decide what you want and then put in the time/energy to make it happen. But trust me, at your age, the potential of lean muscle you could put on is simply mind boggling. Its much harder when you get to be an old fart like me. Good Luck! TC

I've tried weights previously but I simply do not have the strength. :-(

Are the treadmill/rower/stepper no good?

if you want to be a smaller version of what you are now, then do the stuff you listed.

If you want to be smaller, and have some muscle definition showing, then weight lifting is required.

We are all lacking in strength when we start out...but as time goes, you get stronger.

I started out the same way back in high school struggling to bench 95 lbs.
Today I can do about 255 or so....

taiyola · May 2014

You can't choose where the weight comes off, unfortunately. I lost weight from all over, but the only reason now my legs are more toned and wobble less, is from weights.

Also, like someone else suggested - more protein. I don't know what you eat in the evening, but everything else is largely carbs that you're consuming.

Those breakfast biscuits are usually full of sugar, too.

liampotter27 · May 2014

My first week of recording stuff in MFP had me below my target net daily calories by between 100 and 200 calories, and that net target was for losing 2lb per week. If this is the case then surely I must be doing something right?

I would have thought that if I'm doing better than my target than whatever it doing must be right. I'm probably not the best at explaining how different my regime is now to my past, but I did do a lot of calculations at the start and set a new regime that would give me a lot less calories per day than before, which included regular exercise.

liampotter27 · May 2014

You can't choose where the weight comes off, unfortunately. I lost weight from all over, but the only reason now my legs are more toned and wobble less, is from weights.

Also, like someone else suggested - more protein. I don't know what you eat in the evening, but everything else is largely carbs that you're consuming.

Those breakfast biscuits are usually full of sugar, too.

Thank you - I'll definitely re-arrange my new plan to include more protein. Are there any foods that could help with this? My evening meals are usually a small portion of fresh fish with steamed veg, pork chops (with fat cut off) with steamed veg etc... Basically anything with steamed veg to try and ensure I'm getting my 5 a day.

Are there any 'quick but healthy' alternatives I could try for breakfast? I did try to get a low sugar pack, but they've still got sugar in.

liampotter27 · May 2014

1. Genetics determines how your body loses fat. There's no way to target fat loss in a specific area. Some people lose it all over, some people in their belly, some in their thighs, etc. A measuring tape to measure inches lost and some progress pics will be your best friends. Also, weight loss takes time. You didn't gain it all in a month, so you won't lose it all in a month, either.

MFP and various other sources will tell you that a deficit of 3500 calories over the course of a week will make you lose one pound. Since you're not counting calories, you won't know what your true deficit is because gym machine calorie counts are notoriously inaccurate. Perhaps look into getting a pedometer or a heart rate monitor to give you more accurate info on your burns.

2. If you don't feel like eating in the morning, don't. Personally, I can barely function without breakfast, but some people aren't hungry until lunchtime. Eat when you are hungry- as long as you're hitting your calorie and macro goals, meal timing won't have much effect on weight loss.

3. Cardio is fantastic for building endurance, burning calories and therefore creating a deeper deficit, and improving cardiovascular health. Some people prefer lower impact cardio (swimming, elliptical, arc trainer) because it's easier on their joints. If you're running with poor form or old shoes, you could start experiencing joint pain if you overdo it.

That being said, weight lifting will make you look good naked. Look into Stronglifts, Starting Strength, or New Rules of Lifting for great programs. Those weight sessions usually only take about 20-30 minutes 3 times per week, leaving you plenty of time for 30 minutes or so of high intensity cardio on those nights and your regular cardio routine on the other nights.

Good luck!

Thank you for your very detailed post!

I'm aware belly fat can't be targeted, I'm just trying to figure out the best regime for me to get myself into so that I do eventually get rid of the belly, even if it takes time!

Sounds like I need to get weight training into my regime and eat more protein, but continue somewhere along the lines off what I'm doing now.

Thank you everyone!

FatFreeFrolicking · May 2014

I only say I'm not calorie counting because I know I am eating at least 500 calories less per day than I used to, and I'm also burning off 500 with almost daily exercise. I'm not calorie counting to an exact science but I'm definitely aware of roughly how many I am eating so that it is consistently 500 or so less per day.

500 less than what?

If you don't know how many you were eating before, you don't know that you're eating at a deficit now.

Before: regular snacks, huge meals, fizzy drinks, a midnight feast of crisps and chocolate every night, rare exercise, hardly any water.

After: breakfast biscuits, pasta pot lunch, small portioned evening meal, no snacks (and if I feel like a snack it's a piece of fruit), no fizzy drinks, plenty of water, almost daily exercis of approx. 500 calories burned.

My deficit is definitely at least 500, if not nearer to 1000.

It's great you've changed your diet but you STILL need to count calories. You need to weigh your food with a food scale so you accurately know how many calories you are putting into your body a day.

maz504 · May 2014

I only say I'm not calorie counting because I know I am eating at least 500 calories less per day than I used to, and I'm also burning off 500 with almost daily exercise. I'm not calorie counting to an exact science but I'm definitely aware of roughly how many I am eating so that it is consistently 500 or so less per day.

500 less than what?

If you don't know how many you were eating before, you don't know that you're eating at a deficit now.

Before: regular snacks, huge meals, fizzy drinks, a midnight feast of crisps and chocolate every night, rare exercise, hardly any water.

After: breakfast biscuits, pasta pot lunch, small portioned evening meal, no snacks (and if I feel like a snack it's a piece of fruit), no fizzy drinks, plenty of water, almost daily exercis of approx. 500 calories burned.

My deficit is definitely at least 500, if not nearer to 1000.

It's great you've changed your diet but you STILL need to count calories. You need to weigh your food with a food scale so you accurately know how many calories you are putting into your body a day.

+1 /thread

fozzie500 · May 2014

Ok i read crisps so i figure your english so maybe this will help you understand that your only truly guesstimating at the minute and that at least track a couple of meals a day to get you on the right track,

packet of quavers ranges from 89 to 107 calories depending on if they are multi pack or not,
packet of mccoys beef crisps 225 calories eating what you are eating now at the calories your guesstimating,your going to start getting real hungry, real soon,real food is the way to go.
if your not english i apologise for presuming and you might not know what the hell quavers are! lol
even if your reading the calories properley, are they for 40g? 100g? do you know what 100g of meat looks like?
these things will all slow your progress.

CorvusCorax77 · May 2014

1. I cannot see as much weight loss as I would have expected given the dramatic reduction in calories and massive increase in exercise. I've read that weight loss will be all over my body, before attempting to even out by taking fat from where it is most - is this true? And if so, how long (given my new regime) will it be before I can expect to see results?

Your body loses where it loses- the only thing you can do is work towards lowering your overall body fat. How long before you can expect results? The healthy weight loss range is 1-2 lbs of fat per week. If you look pregnant, I would gather you want to lose something like 40 lbs so give yourself at least 5 months to do that. You may lose faster at first, and slower later.

2. I've read that the breakfast biscuits (or any breakfast for that matter) helps to kick-start your metabolism in the morning. Is this true? And if so, what is the benefit of this and is there an ideal time to eat breakfast?

I think it doesn't matter when you eat. If you wake up not hungry, don't force yourself to eat based on some myth that this will impact your metabolism. Metabolism will be lowered by your body weight lowering and it will be raised by exercise- I think given you need to do both those things, you're wasting time worrying about metabolism. What you should be focused on is calories in vs. calories out- maybe you won't count calories and I think given how much weight you have to lose (based on your description of being male and looking pregnant) eyeballing it at this time is probably ok as long as you are certain you aren't starving yourself (because based on what you have said, that would actually be the concern that you are netting too few calories which will result in you giving up).

3. I currently go to the gym between 8 and 9pm (after my evening meal) and do the treadmill for 45 mins (300-400 calories), then the stepper for 15 mins (200-300 calories). Sometimes I do the rower for 10 mins (150 calories) to warm up and reduce the treadmill time accordingly. Is there an ideal time to do the gym session? And could my time be better used with the equipment (e.g. more stepper, less treadmill)?

The idea time is the time you will go. The ideal equipment is the equipment you will use.

To throw in a few other thoughts I have: when people who are very overweight begin to lose, as I did, it makes sense to just do whatever you can make a habit. As you get closer to your "goal weight" you may find your goals change- imagine you have lost that 40 lbs, you have habitualized healthy eating habits to the point of planning healthy meals without feeling like you are denying yourself anything, you have habituatlized exercise to the point where if you don't do it, you feel bad (by this I mean as in "i really WANTED to go! My legs need to run!" as opposed to "i'm such a fat lazy slob who didn't go")... At this point, you may decide to have new goals - perhaps building muscle. That might be a time when you decide you want to focus on macros and do different types of exercise. That's basically wht happend with me.

liampotter27 · May 2014

I'd like to try and clarify a couple of things about the calorie counting.

Saying I won't do it probably wasn't my smartest choice of words. I am aiming for 100 to 200 less per day than MFP recommends my daily net calories should be, and my initial calculations for my new regime works out to this. I presumed that being approximate but definitely remaining around my daily net calories target would be OK.

Most of you have suggested being extremely accurate about calorie counting and monitoring exactly how many calories go into my body - this will be extremely difficult given my work/family life (I don't even prepare my evening meals - my wife does this!) and lack of free time.

I'll try to start more accurately monitoring exactly what I'm eating, asding weight training to my exercise regime, and eating more protein.

I really do appreciate everyone's help.

liampotter27 · May 2014

Ok i read crisps so i figure your english so maybe this will help you understand that your only truly guesstimating at the minute and that at least track a couple of meals a day to get you on the right track,

packet of quavers ranges from 89 to 107 calories depending on if they are multi pack or not,
packet of mccoys beef crisps 225 calories eating what you are eating now at the calories your guesstimating,your going to start getting real hungry, real soon,real food is the way to go.
if your not english i apologise for presuming and you might not know what the hell quavers are! lol
even if your reading the calories properley, are they for 40g? 100g? do you know what 100g of meat looks like?
these things will all slow your progress.

I am British :-)

Not counting calories was probably too strong - I do monitor them to make sure it's around my daily net calorie target but as others and yourself have mentioned I'm guesstimating so I'll try to measure more accurately.

I haven't had a bag of crisps in 3 weeks, but even if I did I know to choose the healthy option and make sure it's calories per bag rather than calories per 30g or whatever :-)

amcook4 · May 2014

I don't even prepare my evening meals - my wife does this!

My husband made my dinner last night, he was happy to tell me what was in it so I could accurately track. I used to make that excuse too, then I realized it was just an excuse.

Would you at least consider tracking for a week, just to see if your guesstimates are even close? You might be, but you could also be way out in left field.

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