Polar FT4 and swimming

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Hello everyone, I have a Polar FT4 and I want to use it in the pool, has anyone any experience of swimming with theirs? Does it count calories accurately? Thanks in advance, all help appreciated.

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  • niknak0508
    niknak0508 Posts: 430 Member
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    Mine never worked, it always gave me an error saying that the transmitter wasnt connected...... even though it clearly was.
  • missgainz
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    Unfortunately not. There are swim watches you can buy if you're keen though:

    http://www.ryda.com.au/Swimming-Wrist-Computers-s/816.htm

    Happy holidays!
  • jennmoore3
    jennmoore3 Posts: 1,015 Member
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    One of my friends on here uses hers so I tried it. Mine worked just fine. but I have a 1 piece suit. I do know you should not push the buttons under water. My HR was surprisingly slower than I thought. I only did it a few times, and just treaded water to play with it.
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
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    Unfortunately not. There are swim watches you can buy if you're keen though:

    http://www.ryda.com.au/Swimming-Wrist-Computers-s/816.htm

    Thanks for this link, it actually has the FT4 on this page, so it must be ok for swimming.

    xx
  • BerryH
    BerryH Posts: 4,698 Member
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    Regular HRMs do not transmit through water so you will not get an accurate calorie burn. However, when you stand up at the end of a length, you can get an accurate HR reading if you're using it to check the level of your workout.

    Here's some good info from a UK HRM site:
    http://www.heartratemonitor.co.uk/heart_rate_monitor_faq.html#swim
    Can I swim with my heart rate monitor?

    Most Heart Rate Monitors are water resistant to 20, 30, 50 or 100 metres depending on the model. This is a theoretical static pressure measurement and does NOT relate to a practical depth. Most 20-50 metre water resistant HRMs are fine for surface swimming only. Please check with us before making any assumptions on water resistancy.

    Generally, HRMs do NOT work (read the heart rate) in the water due to inability to transmit the radio (FM) waves under water. They are designed to transmit in the air. It is possible to get a good reading in the pool only when your chest area, and the transmitter, is clear of the water. This is the same for all chest strap type HRMs.

    For Triathletes, this means that the HRM becomes a stopwatch only for the swim section. The unit will not be damaged in the pool, but it will not record heart rate (unless you are lucky, we cannot guarantee it, nor is it a fault if it fails to read HR while swimming).

    For SWIMMING, there are currently three main options:

    1) Forget about your heart rate while swimming - get a POOLMATE swimmers watch and dramatically improve your swim efficiency. The Poolmate is the best innovation for swimmers since... googles !! Highly recommended. A swimmer never reaches the same levels of cardio intensity that a RUNNER or CYCLIST does - the chances of cardio OVER training in the pool are VERY slim. It is our considered opnion that a heart rate monitor for swimming is just not necessary - better to improve stroke technique etc. We recommend the POOLMATE swim watch.

    2) OK - you're still reading so you really do want heart rate feedback from your swims.. then it has to be the Polar RCX5 - this heart rate monitor has been specially developed with a DUAL frequency transmitter - one for OUT of WATER that uses Polar WIND digital signal to prevent intereference... another for IN THE WATER which uses a more traditional analogue signal that works perfectly in the water. You still have to wear a chest strap, but you should be able to download a clean heart rate curve after your pool session.

    3) LIVE heart rate reading at the END of a set of lengths. We have had a lot of success selling the modern strapless heart rate monitors that have sensors on the front. The swimmer places their fingers on the sensors with the watch OUT of the WATER... within 3 - 8 seconds you are presented with an ECG accurate heart rate reading. A popular unit for this is the Oregon Scientific SE138 strapless heart rate monitor.

    4) Polar Health Check .... Polar brand this product as an EQUINE product (used to be called a VET CHECK) - hold it against the chest of the horse, and get a live heart rate. It has been used by hundreds of swimming coaches for SWIMMING with GREAT SUCCESS. Just hold it against the swimmers chest, and have a live heart rate reading within 4 or 5 seconds. The COACH wears the watch - the swimmer just presents their chest to the coach to push the handle against. This unit WILL work through a swimsuit or a Tri-vest. We sell this item from our sister site - HORSEBEAT.co.uk - SWIMMERS heart monitor.

    We recommend in most models that you should not press any buttons under water. See user's manual for details. Heart rate measurement in a water environment is technically demanding for the following reasons:

    Pool water with a high chlorine (or bromine) content, as well as seawater, may be very conductive and the electrodes of a transmitter may get short circuited and ECG signals cannot be detected by the transmitter unit.

    Jumping into the water or strenuous muscle movement during competitive swimming may cause water resistance that shifts the transmitter on the body to a location where it is not possible to pick up the ECG signal.

    The ECG signal strength varies depending on the individual's tissue composition. The percentage of people who have problems in heart rate measuring is considerably higher in a water environment than in other uses.

    In the watch industry the water resistance is generally indicated as metres of water pressure, meaning a static pressure of water at the level in question. Most manufacturers' apply the same indication system, as it is well known and water resistance is an essential feature of the heart rate monitor.

    However, it should be noted that when performing any underwater activity, the dynamic pressure generated by movement through the water is greater than the static pressure. Generally, all the HRM's we sell are fine for use while bathing, swimming and showering, BUT, not under water activity like scuba diving.
  • BerryH
    BerryH Posts: 4,698 Member
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    Thanks for this link, it actually has the FT4 on this page, so it must be ok for swimming.
    Waterproof and can be worn for swimming, but will not transmit or calculate calories accurately :flowerforyou:
  • Ahluvly
    Ahluvly Posts: 389 Member
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    I have a PoolMate Professional simming watch! It's great to be honest! I have the first one...they brought a new one out last year...but the one I have calculates cals burned, speed, number of average strokes per lap etc. Well worth buying one!!!! It cost me around £60 but look and see how much the newer one is. They were brought out around £120 but they may have lowered the price! I've got the FT60 Polar HRM so after £130 for that....I'm buying no more gadgets lol
  • kyle4jem
    kyle4jem Posts: 1,400 Member
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    I've an FT4 but I've never worn it swimming as I assumed even if it were waterproof that the transmitter wouldn't work properly underwater.

    I've also looked at Swimovate Pool Mate Computer Sports Watch but at £58 I just wonder if this would be a useful tool or just another gadget that I'll use for a few weeks and forget about. (The jury's still out and I have other gadgets on my wish-list that take precedence :happy:)

    I do think MFP grossly overestimates swimming burn but then I do spend at least an hour swimming per sessions and I know that swimming is one of the top exercises you can do and I never eat back all my exercise cals (although I do bank them for weekends in the pub and more especially at the moment for Christmas enjoyment :laugh:)
  • Brownski860
    Brownski860 Posts: 361 Member
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    I tested my FT4 in the local highschool pool with laps and water aerobics. I got the same error message with the transmitter. This doesnt work in the pool. But I was literally sweating during my workout so I know I was burning calories.
  • TeriLynnSpano
    TeriLynnSpano Posts: 103 Member
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    :mad: I was very upset that the polar ft4 didnt work for water aerobics!
  • Gpistons
    Gpistons Posts: 8 Member
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    I just went on the Polar website.. it says its sutible for swimming..
  • h7463
    h7463 Posts: 626 Member
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    Hi there... I have successfully used my Polar H7 in the pool. It's similar to the FT7 (which I also own), and it connects with Bluetooth to my iPhone 4s. The GPS gave me a fairly accurate reading, with the phone beside the pool on a bench. The trick with the sensor is, that the chest strap has to be tight at all times. I'm not wearing a regular swimsuit, but matched a plain bottom with a Nike compression sports bra. The bra band is very tight around my chest, and I tuck the chest strap under it. No problem.
    Of course, that's not really an option for the guys...sorry.... :laugh: