I cannot seem to stay within my calorie goal

My daily calorie goal is 1800. Almost every single day I go over it by a few hundred. Today it was a cup of whole wheat spaghetti noodles, at 800 calories, that put me over.

How am I supposed to stay within my calorie range when even relatively healthy foods seem to be high in calories? I never thought a cup of cooked spaghetti noodles was all that much and I was shocked to see the calorie content of whole wheat pasta. I thought I was eating healthy!
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  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    First thought is to ask how many of your calories are coming from protein?
  • DanaDark
    DanaDark Posts: 2,187 Member
    Fibrous foods and proteins tend to keep you full longer.

    What sort of noodles are you eating exactly that are 800 calories for 1 cup cooked? O.o
  • irisheyez718
    irisheyez718 Posts: 677 Member
    I'm sure that calorie count was for dry noodles, not cooked.
  • I stay at or under 1573 a day, and i'm much larger than you... I still eat pretty much what I want within reason... one thing i've had to give up... or eat as a side dish only is pasta... pasta tends to run high in calories... so make it a side dish, only use like 2oz of pasta and have a protein and veggie main dish. My meal plans generally change each day, depending on the amount of exercise I do and what I want to eat some days. I find it easier to stick to a meal plan and stay in my calorie goal if I prepare ahead of time, write down what I plan on eating for the following day, and log them, it shows me my calorie info, I take that into consideration and then make the decision on if I'm going to have a high calorie meal, then I need to work out to burn at least half that meal off to keep within my goal calorie amount.
  • fr053n
    fr053n Posts: 2,793 Member
    More fiber!! Also, try to include some healthy fats at breakfast. It will keep you from getting too hungry throughout the day.
  • PinkyFett
    PinkyFett Posts: 842 Member
    Use zucchini instead of noodles. Way less calories and better for you.
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    1. Opening your diary might lead to more helpful advice.
    2. Be sure you are logging correctly
    3. Protein, fiber, more protein, more fiber - keeps you fuller longer
  • newb01
    newb01 Posts: 22
    First thought is to ask how many of your calories are coming from protein?

    This! A calorie is NOT a calorie. Lean meat, Egg Whites, seafood a TON of Veggies...when I say a ton..I mean a ton.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    1. Would you mind opening your diary so that we can maybe make suggestions to replace some of your high-calorie favorites?

    2. Fill up on lean proteins and low-calorie/high bulk veggies, like salad (light dressings), squash, greens, green beans, sugar snap peas, carrots, tomatoes, etc. Think seafood, white chicken, turkey, ham (if you're not watching your sodium) and think baked, broiled, steamed and sauteed instead of fried. This should leave you enough leftover calories to still have treats and other things you love, so you don't feel deprived.
  • rideontechnology
    rideontechnology Posts: 54 Member
    Woah, most spaghetti/pasta I've seen (even store brands, not healthy kind) are ~200 calories per cooked cup. (a single serving is 2 oz dry = roughly a cup cooked), so I think 800 calories may be wrong... unless other things are in play we don't know about.

    But that's as far as I go with advice here, everyone else has the rest covered better than I probably
  • Sunbrooke
    Sunbrooke Posts: 632 Member
    Add as many of the vegetables, that you like without calories dense sauces, as you can. Since my husband starting having a huge veggie salad for lunch and fruit for breakfast, he has plenty of calories for the evening. Also, treat yourself to your favorite low calories foods. I used to eat an artichoke over the course of a coupe of days because they can be a little expensive, but now I eat one for a snack. Same with grilled asparagus. If you like those lightly sauced steamable frozen veggie blends, you can eat half of the bag at a time for under 100 calories. I'm not saying to avoid your favorite foods, just add in any vegetables you like so that you fill up and gets lots of fiber too. Also, don't eat grains that you don't want to eat. I used to eat white rice or a slice of bread at a meal just because I felt like I was supposed to, but I didn't even want it.
  • lioness803
    lioness803 Posts: 325 Member
    1.) Plan your food the day before as much as possible
    2.) Fill up on low cal veggies and lean meats, and keep your carb portions smaller-most carbs are more calorie dense.
  • thavoice
    thavoice Posts: 1,326 Member
    My daily calorie goal is 1800. Almost every single day I go over it by a few hundred. Today it was a cup of whole wheat spaghetti noodles, at 800 calories, that put me over.

    How am I supposed to stay within my calorie range when even relatively healthy foods seem to be high in calories? I never thought a cup of cooked spaghetti noodles was all that much and I was shocked to see the calorie content of whole wheat pasta. I thought I was eating healthy!
    um. you stay within range by eating less. plain and simple.
  • thavoice
    thavoice Posts: 1,326 Member
    First thought is to ask how many of your calories are coming from protein?

    This! A calorie is NOT a calorie. Lean meat, Egg Whites, seafood a TON of Veggies...when I say a ton..I mean a ton.
    sure it is. eat less calories, at a deficit, and you lose weight no matter what it is.
  • MJDuley
    MJDuley Posts: 47 Member
    First of all, thank you everyone for the support and advice!!
    First thought is to ask how many of your calories are coming from protein?

    I'm not sure. I've just been logging calories, but not really paying much attention to what calories are coming from where
    What sort of noodles are you eating exactly that are 800 calories for 1 cup cooked? O.o

    Just the Walmart brand whole wheat pasta. I think I made the mistake of measuring it AFTER cooking, instead of before. Although it's hard to measure before when I'm cooking for four people.
    1. Opening your diary might lead to more helpful advice.

    How do I do that? I thought everyone could already see it.
    Woah, most spaghetti/pasta I've seen (even store brands, not healthy kind) are ~200 calories per cooked cup. (a single serving is 2 oz dry = roughly a cup cooked), so I think 800 calories may be wrong... unless other things are in play we don't know about.

    Well, that is probably where the issue lies then. I measured out a cup AFTER I had cooked it (since I was cooking for our whole family).
    My daily calorie goal is 1800. Almost every single day I go over it by a few hundred. Today it was a cup of whole wheat spaghetti noodles, at 800 calories, that put me over.

    How am I supposed to stay within my calorie range when even relatively healthy foods seem to be high in calories? I never thought a cup of cooked spaghetti noodles was all that much and I was shocked to see the calorie content of whole wheat pasta. I thought I was eating healthy!
    um. you stay within range by eating less. plain and simple.

    Well, thank you Captain Obvious. *Insert eye roll here*. I'm already eating less than the recommended serving size in many instances, hence my original post.

    To everyone else, thank you for the HELPFUL advice! I do know I need a lot more veggies in my diet. I'm actually growing a veggie garden right now in order to help facilitate that (I do buy veggies, I'm just terrible about eating them, so maybe if I have to put in a little effort to grow them myself, I'll be more inclined to eat them). I also know I eat too many carbs and sugars. I just get frustrated when I try to eat less each day and end up going over my calorie limit anyway. I feel like I'm starving and the calorie counter says I'm over! I know it has a lot to do with WHAT I'm eating, but I'm not nutrition-saavy enough to know what are the best choices. Sometimes I think I've made a healthy choice only to enter it into the food diary and find out it's loaded with sugar or calories!

    So if someone can tell me how to make my diary readable to others, I'm happy to open it up for scrutiny.

    Oh, and I do know I need to exercise more. No need to tell me. I absolutely HATE exercise of pretty much any kind, so I'm working on getting myself to be more active.
  • MJDuley
    MJDuley Posts: 47 Member
    I went back and changed the serving size on the spaghetti to 2oz, bringing my calorie intake for that meal to a more reasonable level.

    Unfortunately, I was so angry that evening about the whole pasta thing that I sat down with a can of chocolate frosting for dessert and ate quite a lot of it. So, my calories are still way over for that day (I promise, that is NOT a regular thing for me; I normally don't "comfort eat").
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    You did not eat 800 calories. I just looked up the nutrition info online, and it's 210 calories for 56g - that's a standard dry measurement for pasta (56g or 2 oz dry). That generally comes out to be 1 cup cooked. So you had 210 calories worth of spaghetti, not 800. Obviously that's an estimation since you're using measuring cups once it's cooked, but it's a lot closer to correct than 800 calories.
  • MJDuley
    MJDuley Posts: 47 Member
    You did not eat 800 calories. I just looked up the nutrition info online, and it's 210 calories for 56g - that's a standard dry measurement for pasta (56g or 2 oz dry). That generally comes out to be 1 cup cooked. So you had 210 calories worth of spaghetti, not 800. Obviously that's an estimation since you're using measuring cups once it's cooked, but it's a lot closer to correct than 800 calories.

    Yeah, I just changed it (we cross-posted). Unfortunately, I still blew my calories for that day, as embarrassingly mentioned above, lol.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Do you like walking? It's always a start.

    I have the same problem with having to weigh things after they are cooked though - but there are entries in the database for cooked food. For pasta though, it's always inaccurate, so if you can, make your own serving in another pot (I know... it's a pain, but for me it's the best way of making sure I'm logging properly). For what it's worth, 2oz of dry pasta is about a cup cooked (although obviously not very accurate).

    Also buy a food scale. It's super easy, you just put it under your plate and tare it as you add more food and write down the numbers, this way no need to estimate or dirty measuring cups (you can't really measure solids in volume units anyway).
  • mfp2014mfp
    mfp2014mfp Posts: 689 Member
    You did not eat 800 calories. I just looked up the nutrition info online, and it's 210 calories for 56g - that's a standard dry measurement for pasta (56g or 2 oz dry). That generally comes out to be 1 cup cooked. So you had 210 calories worth of spaghetti, not 800. Obviously that's an estimation since you're using measuring cups once it's cooked, but it's a lot closer to correct than 800 calories.

    Yeah, I just changed it (we cross-posted). Unfortunately, I still blew my calories for that day, as embarrassingly mentioned above, lol.

    Dont be too hard on yourself, it's all a learning process, it sounds like everyone has offered some really good advice and you have a great attitude that will get you through the long haul :flowerforyou:
  • MJDuley
    MJDuley Posts: 47 Member
    Do you like walking? It's always a start.

    I have the same problem with having to weigh things after they are cooked though - but there are entries in the database for cooked food. For pasta though, it's always inaccurate, so if you can, make your own serving in another pot (I know... it's a pain, but for me it's the best way of making sure I'm logging properly). For what it's worth, 2oz of dry pasta is about a cup cooked (although obviously not very accurate).

    Also buy a food scale. It's super easy, you just put it under your plate and tare it as you add more food and write down the numbers, this way no need to estimate or dirty measuring cups (you can't really measure solids in volume units anyway).

    I do like walking. I used to walk a lot, but lately it's been so hot here (supposed to be 110 tomorrow) that unless I go out at 5am I get hot and light-headed to quick. I'm seriously out of shape! Until recently I was on my way to work by 5am, but that changes starting this next week (well, except for tomorrow and Wednesday, when I have to be at work by 4:45am and then drive a school bus all day; the other days I don't work). I'm planning to start walking this week. Today I woke up feeling sick to my stomach, which is why I didn't walk today.

    I used to go hiking a lot when I lived at my old house (we moved 2 years ago), but now I'm half an hour away from the nearest hiking trails, so I can't justify making that drive every day (not to mention I won't have a car during the week). But I was thinking maybe every Saturday morning starting in July (I work every Saturday in June) I could head to the trails.

    I need to talk to my dr. though, because when I do walk my hands and fingers swell up really badly and painfully after about 20 minutes.
  • MJDuley
    MJDuley Posts: 47 Member
    Dont be too hard on yourself, it's all a learning process, it sounds like everyone has offered some really good advice and you have a great attitude that will get you through the long haul :flowerforyou:

    Thanks! I did start drinking a lot more water in the past few days, so that's a start, right? And last night's snack was a lot healthier (and of smaller quantity) than usual. I know I need to focus on baby steps and not try to do too much at once.

    I also have a HUGE weakness for hot chocolate, which I know is a big part of why I go over my sugar limit each day. My goal is to use up the current package (maybe about a week's worth left?) and then quit cold turkey. It's getting to hot for a hot drink anyway, lol!
  • Phrick
    Phrick Posts: 2,765 Member
    I cook for 4 also and I weigh portions prior to cooking (as well as after). I weigh 4 servings of pasta (dry), then cook, weigh the final result, divide by 4 and then I know how much of the final product is my portion.. Or, since most of the "official MFP" entries for meats are for RAW portions (official entries are the ones in the database WITHOUT an asterisk *) I will weigh out my correct raw portion, mark it with a toothpick, then cook everyone's food together. It takes maybe a minute longer in the preparation process but it's so worth it. My scale cost $20 at Walmart and is possibly the best food management tool I've purchased in this process.
  • nyiballs
    nyiballs Posts: 147 Member
    When I started, I was a 250 lb man with calorie intake of 3000 on an average day. Now an average day for me is roughly 1350.

    Tips I learned:

    -you mentioned your frosting binge... THROW AWAY all frosting, chips, frozen fried crap, etc. 90% of what you eat should be fresh. The exception would be lean cuisine style meals.
    - lunch is a glorified snack. Do a lean cuisine or soup or something, but try to keep lunch at, or below 300 calories.
    - low sugar oatmeal, and egg whites are your new best friends for breakfast. You can have a bowl of oatmeal AND scrambled egg whites for under 200 calories. Throw in some strawberry, banana, apples, or grapes, and you have a filling and yummy 300 cal breakfast every day.
    - dinner is lean protein and two veggies. I try to avoid pasta entirely now, and rice is brown rice in small amounts. 8oz is your biggest protein size now.
    - remove butter and oil from everything. PAM it is.
    - oh dessert... Sigh... Fruits are desserts too. Otherwise, SMALL portions of fat free yogurt, puddings, jello, etc. No more cakes, donuts, pies, pastries, frosting, cookies, etc.

    What I've learned on my journey is that these changes are about long term success and emotional well being.

    Think about eating that frosting... For the five minutes you were doing that, you may have felt pretty good, but days later I bet there is still guilt and shame. So was the five minutes worth of comfort worth the days of regret and guilt? That's what I think when I now see a plate of donuts or cake in the break room... Sure, I will enjoy it for a moment, but I will spend the rest of the day feeling miserable about it. Think of that misery when looking at the junk, and it will become a lot easier to realize, you don't need the food to be happy... It's the food that makes it harder to be happy.
  • serindipte
    serindipte Posts: 1,557 Member
    I cook for 4 also and I weigh portions prior to cooking (as well as after). I weigh 4 servings of pasta (dry), then cook, weigh the final result, divide by 4 and then I know how much of the final product is my portion.. Or, since most of the "official MFP" entries for meats are for RAW portions (official entries are the ones in the database WITHOUT an asterisk *) I will weigh out my correct raw portion, mark it with a toothpick, then cook everyone's food together. It takes maybe a minute longer in the preparation process but it's so worth it. My scale cost $20 at Walmart and is possibly the best food management tool I've purchased in this process.

    This is how I do it, as well. Pre-weigh, re-weigh, then I math it.
  • alisonmarytuck
    alisonmarytuck Posts: 68 Member
    I would suggest cutting the portions of what you eat, rather than banning any foods per se. Quite quickly you find that you cant eat as much as you used to as your body adapts. I tend to opt fir smaller portions of e erything, mainly healthy with a few less healthy foods, and the wight is dropping steadily
  • Iwishyouwell
    Iwishyouwell Posts: 1,888 Member
    Nutritionally dense, high volume, relatively low calorie foods are your best friend when trying to keep satisfied, while staying within your limits.

    Most fruits, vegetables, seafood, and some lean meats are great for filling you up while helping you stick to your caloric goals. If you're having trouble consuming 1800 calories, a pretty high limit for a woman losing weight, you're likely eating way too many foods that aren't giving you much bulk and volume for your caloric buck.

    Satiation depends on the person. I know that if my diet is comprised foundationally of veggies, meats, fruits, and healthy fats, I'm satiated far longer than if I'm consuming mostly high carbohydrate foods like breads, sugary desserts, pasta, etc. That might keep others satisfied,but not me. Know what keeps you feeling satiated and concentrate largely on those foods. It doesn't mean you have to cut anything out, but keep those foods that don't do much for your satisfaction, or are triggers for overeating, to a limit.
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    When I started, I was a 250 lb man with calorie intake of 3000 on an average day. Now an average day for me is roughly 1350.
    That is not a healthy amount for any man

    -you mentioned your frosting binge... THROW AWAY all frosting, chips, frozen fried crap, etc. 90% of what you eat should be fresh. The exception would be lean cuisine style meals.
    Don't throw away any food. if you don't want it donate it. People struggle to feed their families throwing good food away is just selfish
    - lunch is a glorified snack. Do a lean cuisine or soup or something, but try to keep lunch at, or below 300 calories.
    That may work for you but the OP is eating a very reasonable 1800 calories and can easily eat far more for lunch which is less likely to leave her craving other foods
    - low sugar oatmeal, and egg whites are your new best friends for breakfast. You can have a bowl of oatmeal AND scrambled egg whites for under 200 calories. Throw in some strawberry, banana, apples, or grapes, and you have a filling and yummy 300 cal breakfast every day.
    Personally my breakfasts hit around 500 calories a 200 or 300 calorie breakfast wouldn't keep most people going. As for low sugar stuff personally I'd rather just go for normal oats. Egg whites well I don't eat eggs but if your going to eat them eat the whole thing there's a lot of nutrition in the yolks
    - dinner is lean protein and two veggies. I try to avoid pasta entirely now, and rice is brown rice in small amounts. 8oz is your biggest protein size now.
    Sorry that just sounds mind numbingly boring. you don't need to deprive yourself of interesting foods
    - remove butter and oil from everything. PAM it is.
    Err If you eat dairy keep the butter and some oil the correct fats are good for you just reduce the amount to reduce calories
    No more cakes, donuts, pies, pastries, frosting, cookies, etc.
    Err No just no. You can have anything in moderation. I seem to have done pretty well still having cakes and pastries and whatever I want in moderation.
    What I've learned on my journey is that these changes are about long term success and emotional well being.
    Great that it works for you but for the majority of people plans like yours are why people fail
    Think about eating that frosting... For the five minutes you were doing that, you may have felt pretty good, but days later I bet there is still guilt and shame. So was the five minutes worth of comfort worth the days of regret and guilt? That's what I think when I now see a plate of donuts or cake in the break room... Sure, I will enjoy it for a moment, but I will spend the rest of the day feeling miserable about it. Think of that misery when looking at the junk, and it will become a lot easier to realize, you don't need the food to be happy... It's the food that makes it harder to be happy.
    I think this is part of the problem people are seeing food as bad or evil. Food is just well food it is neither good nor evil.

    Eat a balanced diet with a good mix of food groups control your portion sizes and include cakes and ice cream if you wish in moderation. The idea is not to make yourself suffer but to live and find a way that will enable you to eat like this long term

    Good Luck OP

    Edited to sort out quotes
  • serindipte
    serindipte Posts: 1,557 Member
    Think about eating that frosting... For the five minutes you were doing that, you may have felt pretty good, but days later I bet there is still guilt and shame. So was the five minutes worth of comfort worth the days of regret and guilt? That's what I think when I now see a plate of donuts or cake in the break room... Sure, I will enjoy it for a moment, but I will spend the rest of the day feeling miserable about it. Think of that misery when looking at the junk, and it will become a lot easier to realize, you don't need the food to be happy... It's the food that makes it harder to be happy.

    When I see that donut or cake, I consider my over all day. I know that I can have that cake if I eat fish and veggies for dinner... then I enjoy without a hint of guilt. There's no need to throw everything out, avoid it, or feel guilty about it. Eat mindfully, balanced, and happily.
  • nyiballs
    nyiballs Posts: 147 Member
    I'm surprised I'm being judged for sharing my experiences so harshly... Everyone has their own view.

    I know many people who say, "I can have that cake as long as I only have X for dinner and exercise for Y more minutes..."

    Here is my own problem there and why I do take a different tact. For me, and we are all different, I would have to consider myself a food addict. Some may scoff, but having lived how I have, I cannot describe it any other way. So, having that piece of cake would be like telling the heroin addict to just have a little heroin today as long as they don't have any tomorrow. I know that piece of cake will lead to a second piece of cake, and then a larger piece of cake the next day, etc.

    The willpower for me is easier to just not eat the cake as opposed to eating in "moderation."

    I'm hopeful that at some point in my life I will be able to simply eat the one piece of cake every 10 days, or the one bowl of ice cream, or the one donut out of the box. But I have found for me, and for many others who are starting out, it is sometimes better to simply remove the temptation entirely as opposed to attempt to moderate something g that you have done to excess for years upon years.