Law School made me Fat
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You are arguing semantics. I am sure he realizes what he ate during law school made him fat. Jeeze.
More seriously, this. I do think it's helpful to analyze the factors that contributed to leading a lifestyle that caused you to end up in worse shape or heavier than you'd like. Looking at things like stress and priorities and letting other things go or balancing badly is important in changing it. I don't think that's denying personal responsibility, but being logical in what you need to change or avoid.0 -
So what's the OP going to do when they begin working 100 hours a week at the law firm?0
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Obviously a lot of people do not know how stressful and taxing law school is. Good luck.1
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In on a 'I went to law school' brag thread
Only kidding.
Went to law school, too. Not blaming it for putting on weight.0 -
Obviously a lot of people do not know how stressful and taxing law school is. Good luck.
And being a first year is going to be cake?0 -
Umm, what??OP did take personal responsibility by seeking to go to grad school/become an attorney. Those who say he needs to take responsibility are probably still taking adult GED classes.
He can cut the weight pretty quickly, you can't get a law degree quickly...if at all.
Writing case briefs may be one of the worst things ever...0 -
Law school didn't make you fat. Life choices made you fat. First step towards weight loss is personal accountability.
Law school was arguably the proximate cause. Any alleged failure to take personal responsibility just makes him an eggshell plaintiff. He should sue. On the other hand, law schools usually have good defense lawyers, and there's probably an assumption of risk. Plus, no relevant duty, major causation issues, and, really, what are the pecuniary damages?
Uh, anyway, welcome to MFP, OP!
Did the school disclose accurately the level of stress typically incurred and perform due diligence to ensure that the plaintiff was aware of all of the potential risks to his health and mental well-being as a result of his enrollment? The pressure applied by the school and it's agents was obviously the proximate cause of the plaintiff's increased stress and mental anguish and is therefore directly responsible for the plaintiff's weight gain. Without said stress and mental anguish that as noted previously may not have been disclosed adequately, it is plain to see that the plaintiff would not have had to resort to coping mechanisms that ultimately led to the alleged damages. In summary: The plaintiff was harmed, the school and it's agents were the proximate cause of that harm and the plaintiff should be compensated for the resultant damages to his health.0 -
If weight loss is calories in, calories out, then workouts shouldn't be the issue.Obviously most of you have never been to law school. It is brutal. When it is a choice between getting a couple hours of sleep a night or going to the gym, it is hard to stay in shape. So easy for everyone to say just get up a couple hours earlier, workout before class, because you know 2 hours a sleep a night is fine. And there's definitely no stress when your entire semester grade is based on ONE test and who needs to study for that? Go to the gym instead. Right. Law School didn't make me fat,but it sure as hell didn't help.
If you're going to get/stay in shape, you are going to have to figure out how. It's NOT going to get easier. Or just try to be skinny fat.
signed: I gained about 15Lbs during my Ph.D. dissertation because I ate a lot of twizzlers and combos, and drank a fair amount of beer.0 -
I feel like im in an episode of law and order. U guys are so smart
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Yeah. I mean I get it. I was a manager at my company and got fat. Everybody does. Experienced managers coming in from the outside usually put on 20. It's part of the culture.
From there, they break into two groups: people who are able to make and enforce boundaries and people who cannot. Group A is more likely to become successful.
Fat comes from over eating. Counting calories will help you with this. It takes about 30 minutes a day.
On top of that, you should be getting 30 minutes of cumulative activity in 5X a week. I'm a mom with two preschoolers and a full time job. I'm either with the kids, at work, or sneaking out of the house to go grocery shopping without "help". I have figured out a program that works for me. You need to find one that works for you.
One hint: don't focus on "shoulds" if they get in your way. You "should" work out with weights. You "should" eat protein 30 minutes after exercise. You "should" do cardio for at least 30 consecutive minutes. These are nice-to-haves. You can work them in (yay for shelf-stable chocolate milk) or not, but the bigger issue is getting that activity in. Run the stairs at the library, do 20 pushups before bed. Figure it out.0 -
So what's the OP going to do when they begin working 100 hours a week at the law firm?
This!!!0 -
So what's the OP going to do when they begin working 100 hours a week at the law firm?
Work 50 and bill for 100? 0 -
its ok, nursing school made me fat too. i lost 55 lbs after my son was born(down to 147 lbs), in 6 months on WW and no exercise. then i got out of the navy and started an accelerated nursing program, so i completed my bachelors in 3 yrs as opposed to 4 yrs. at the start of the program in may i was 168, eating healthy and going to the gym 5 days a week/2 hrs a day. then by december i was 30 lbs heavier due to my inactivity and eating unhealthy, quick, grab on the go food. so now, i graduated and its time to get my body back.0
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Yea.. Law school made you eat, and get soft..
Yea.. Law school did that...0 -
If weight loss is calories in, calories out, then workouts shouldn't be the issue.Obviously most of you have never been to law school. It is brutal. When it is a choice between getting a couple hours of sleep a night or going to the gym, it is hard to stay in shape. So easy for everyone to say just get up a couple hours earlier, workout before class, because you know 2 hours a sleep a night is fine. And there's definitely no stress when your entire semester grade is based on ONE test and who needs to study for that? Go to the gym instead. Right. Law School didn't make me fat,but it sure as hell didn't help.
signed: I gained about 15Lbs during my Ph.D. dissertation because I ate a lot of twizzlers and combos, and drank a fair amount of beer.
I got through my dissertation eating peanut M&Ms and mini donuts. :laugh:
We mere humans are perfectly imperfect and life sometimes interferes with life. OP - good on you for starting your fitness journey!0 -
wait, aren't mini donuts messy? Choose clean keyboard snacks!
If weight loss is calories in, calories out, then workouts shouldn't be the issue.Obviously most of you have never been to law school. It is brutal. When it is a choice between getting a couple hours of sleep a night or going to the gym, it is hard to stay in shape. So easy for everyone to say just get up a couple hours earlier, workout before class, because you know 2 hours a sleep a night is fine. And there's definitely no stress when your entire semester grade is based on ONE test and who needs to study for that? Go to the gym instead. Right. Law School didn't make me fat,but it sure as hell didn't help.
signed: I gained about 15Lbs during my Ph.D. dissertation because I ate a lot of twizzlers and combos, and drank a fair amount of beer.
I got through my dissertation eating peanut M&Ms and mini donuts. :laugh:
We mere humans are perfectly imperfect and life sometimes interferes with life. OP - good on you for starting your fitness journey!0 -
1L and 2L were the hardest years for me and I gained almost 40 lbs from when I started, so 15 lbs isn't so bad! I dropped 20 during 3L, and the rest AFTER the bar exam! I just made it a priority to get back in the gym. Law school sucks, but you made it through! Congratulations! Good luck on the bar exam and getting back into shape.0
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Welcome :flowerforyou:0
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Congratulations on what you've accomplished so far.:flowerforyou:
You'll get your weight to where you want with time.
I think you already have an idea of what to do...put it into practice (no pun intended...or maybe a little)
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IMO...only...
Most of us had excuses at one time or another...at some point through this process we had to face those excuses and recognize our own imperfections.
For those of you that never used an excuse other than your own imperfections...then I suppose that one would say...you are perfect.
I admit...I had my excuses...I hid from life after some devastating events...I faced those after many years...I know it was how I chose to face those events that stopped me from living a fulfilling life.
My success does not depend on whether I had excuses or not...but relies on how well that I am able to face those excuses.
Does berating someone because they have an excuse help??? I would like to say no...but...there was someone that cared enough about me to be honest with me...it started me down a path to rid myself of those excuses. Notice...I said someone who cared...not sure that comments from strangers on an internet site would have helped.
For those of that aren't perfect...maybe it helps to remember that once...we probably had our own set of excuses.
For the OP...I wish you luck...congrats on making it through law school...hopefully now you can evaluate how to get where you want to be.0 -
Hi, I totally understand. I just finished my final exams. Over the last four years, while studying accounting, I put on 3 stone. I tried everything to keep the weight off but stress and being locked to a library seat nullified it all. Like you I'm not huge, but I'm looking for a job and I want to look my best. But the biggest change I made this summer was to take my bike outta the shed and cycle to work. When I first started mfp I thought all i had to do was put down the fork. It's so not that simple. You have to exercise. Exercise has to be fun and not a struggle. I hate walking and jogging. Its pointless for me to take them up as ill never keep them up, so I chose to cycle because I enjoy it. CARROTS AND APPLES oh my god its so much better than chocolate. I juice them, slice them, put them in salad yumm and ginger too. Someone told me carrots help you tan but can if you eat too much turn you a bit orange, i dunno how true that is :laugh: . Best of luck with it. (",)0
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From your location, I'm going to guess that you are attending the same university I attended as a graduate student. It has a lot to offer in terms of outdoors activity and the gym is excellent.
Mens sana in corpore sano should be your project for next year.
BTW, do you really think you are going to gain 15 lbs of muscle over the summer?0 -
You can definitely keep up your workout schedule in law school. It certainly isn't going to be any easier when you graduate. Get back to it now.
That said, I gained 4 inches around my waist in law school. Desk sitting isn't any healthier than library sitting though. Get at it now!0 -
I gained 10 lbs in law school too, don't worry it's easy to drop once you are done! The key is to find a nice comfy 40 hour a week job where you can take a 90 minute lunch break to workout. Good luck!
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I can totally relate!0
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Some of these are pretty funny. But law school isn't an excuse. I was purposefully being lazy and using my free time to relax (it's easy to tell who never went to law school or have a demanding undergrad degree - sometimes you have to balance what's important - family, fun, and a lot of beer was a bit more important than working out in the VERY LITTLE BIT OF FREE TIME that you have).
But I was in shape prior to school, I just kinda let myself go that first year to adapt to the demand of school and understand what it required of me.
But for those who were "gun-ho" with the "you aren't doing your part stop making excuses", thanks, those were pretty fun to read - as someone who worked out for 5 years straight before going to school - I know all that stuff, but I've heard it in much more PROFESSIONAL ways that were actually motivating. Glad I wasn't depending on any of you to motivate me - that would have definitely made a first timer say "yea, these gym heads are not who I want to associate with".
For the rest of you that were actually helpful or understood the situation, good to see there are supporting people out there that would actually help those who may really be struggling with weight loss.
But to all of you - enjoy your exercise and dieting!0 -
Grad school is keeping me fat! UGH! I feel your pain. But we have to find balance. Hard lesson!0
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Gym heads? I've never touched foot in a gym.
Some people deliver support in various ways. Tough love or sugar coated, it's all a manner by which to give a push in the right direction. Irregardless of circumstances, at the end of the day, we hold all the power in our hands to change. Sure, I figured you were aware of that but isn't it so easy to lay blame to something else? Kids were my excuse for gaining and becoming complacent. But the stern love of interweb strangers made me realize that the power was left with me.0 -
We have no one else to blame but ourselves. Law School did not make you fat. Engineering didn't make me fat.
We made ourselves fat.0
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