Protein powder

Not used these particular ones as I'm fine with whey but found TheProteinWorks (UK company) really good on service and product - one of the few that does powders without aspartame or sucralose (can't stand the taste).

This is their lactose free range including rice, pea, egg white, hemp, soy powders.......

http://www.theproteinworks.com/products?cat=6&dietary=413

bump UK pea versus EAS whey product.

I would reccomend Juice Plus+ shakes. While they are not technically a protein powder, they are gluten and dairy free and are more effective at muscle repair and recovery than most protein powders. Whey protein (the most common type used in powders) is a by-product, and not easily absorbed by the body meaning you only absorb and utilise a fraction of the amount per serving advertised on the tin. Juice Plus+ has 19g of bio-available protein per serving, all of which is absorbed and used. In addition to this, you get the benefit of the nutrients from 17 fruits and veg to help your nutrition in general

Oh, and its easy to get in the UK - just give me a shout if you want any more info xx

Don't want to derail the thread but do you have a source for the comment in bold as doesn't seem right to me.
This is my understanding:
Bioavailability / Biological Value....meats and dairy products rank the highest on the BV scale since they are complete proteins. Here is a list of the foods which rank the highest on the BV chart, and therefore have the highest bioavailability of all proteins:

1) Whey Protein (BV 100+)
2) Eggs (BV 100)
3) Dairy, meat, fish, poultry (BV 70 - 100)

Grains, nuts, seed and vegetables are not on this list. Since they are incomplete proteins, they have a BV of under 70. This means that the body cannot use them as efficiently as the foods with a higher BV rating.

(Link - http://www.build-muscle-gain-weight.com/bioavailability-of-protein-in-relation-to-building-muscle.html )

Im not sure how whey protein can be more bio available than dairy (which it is a by-product of).....

Whey Protein "is animal based and a derivative of milk production. It is obtained by coagulating and removing the curd (casein) during cheese production. After it is separated from milk, whey contains almost all of the vitamins and minerals, 50% of the milk solids, and 20-24% of the milk proteins.", so it only contains 20-24% of the proteins in milk."

Whey can also cause muscle inflammation, it's actually really bad for you whereas Juice Plus+ complete helps to build the lean muscle, you can eat eggs meat fish and poultry also but it's about building the healthy muscle not inflamed and painful one xx

Juice Plus+ complete uses soy based protein

"Soy Protein:

Is plant based. Using soy is a good way to get less animal food products, which we get too much of. Soy proteins are high in quality and are free from cholesterol and are very low in saturated fat. In addition, there is fiber in soy products along with phytonutrients not present in whey protein.

Soy is a quality equivalent to both casein and various animal proteins and contains high amounts of glutamine and arginine. Recent studies regarding the cardioprotective (heart protection) benefits of soy isoflavones has stimulated an increase in the numbers of people using soy powders. In addition, studies on nitrogen balance indicate that isolated soy is comparable to that of animal proteins.

How does your protein score?

We recommend you consider trying "Juice Plus Complete". It scores in the "EXCELLENT" Category; one serving has a 25% Daily Value, excellent by anyones standards."

Benefits of Juice Plus Complete:

More protein: from a proprietary blend providing a variety of proteins from water-washed soy, peas, chickpeas, tofu, rice, and other plant sources.

More fiber: 8 grams per serving - in a healthful blend of soluble and insoluble fibers from apples, corn, rice and other plant sources.

Less fat: less than ½ gram per 100 calories.

Less sugar: only 8 grams per 100 calories - from organic sugar cane, monk fruit, stevia and other plant sources.

Fewer calories: 120 calories per serving – better for you than just about any other 120 calories you’re likely to eat or drink.

Even the carbs are healthy - 20 grams per serving: our all-natural plant sources of slow releasing, low-glycemic index carbohydrates include quinoa, amaranth, and millet in a proprietary blend of “ancient grains” that have been cultivated for centuries.

It also contains a complete profile of amino acids, which are an important part of muscle growth.
It doesn't contain gluten, or dairy either which seems ideal for what IzzyRoseDixon is looking for
xx

I would reccomend Juice Plus+ shakes. While they are not technically a protein powder, they are gluten and dairy free and are more effective at muscle repair and recovery than most protein powders. Whey protein (the most common type used in powders) is a by-product, and not easily absorbed by the body meaning you only absorb and utilise a fraction of the amount per serving advertised on the tin. Juice Plus+ has 19g of bio-available protein per serving, all of which is absorbed and used. In addition to this, you get the benefit of the nutrients from 17 fruits and veg to help your nutrition in general

Oh, and its easy to get in the UK - just give me a shout if you want any more info xx

Don't want to derail the thread but do you have a source for the comment in bold as doesn't seem right to me.
This is my understanding:
Bioavailability / Biological Value....meats and dairy products rank the highest on the BV scale since they are complete proteins. Here is a list of the foods which rank the highest on the BV chart, and therefore have the highest bioavailability of all proteins:

1) Whey Protein (BV 100+)
2) Eggs (BV 100)
3) Dairy, meat, fish, poultry (BV 70 - 100)

Grains, nuts, seed and vegetables are not on this list. Since they are incomplete proteins, they have a BV of under 70. This means that the body cannot use them as efficiently as the foods with a higher BV rating.

(Link - http://www.build-muscle-gain-weight.com/bioavailability-of-protein-in-relation-to-building-muscle.html )

Im not sure how whey protein can be more bio available than dairy (which it is a by-product of).....

Whey Protein "is animal based and a derivative of milk production. It is obtained by coagulating and removing the curd (casein) during cheese production. After it is separated from milk, whey contains almost all of the vitamins and minerals, 50% of the milk solids, and 20-24% of the milk proteins.", so it only contains 20-24% of the proteins in milk."

Whey can also cause muscle inflammation, it's actually really bad for you whereas Juice Plus+ complete helps to build the lean muscle, you can eat eggs meat fish and poultry also but it's about building the healthy muscle not inflamed and painful one xx

Juice Plus+ complete uses soy based protein

"Soy Protein:

Is plant based. Using soy is a good way to get less animal food products, which we get too much of. Soy proteins are high in quality and are free from cholesterol and are very low in saturated fat. In addition, there is fiber in soy products along with phytonutrients not present in whey protein.

Soy is a quality equivalent to both casein and various animal proteins and contains high amounts of glutamine and arginine. Recent studies regarding the cardioprotective (heart protection) benefits of soy isoflavones has stimulated an increase in the numbers of people using soy powders. In addition, studies on nitrogen balance indicate that isolated soy is comparable to that of animal proteins.

How does your protein score?

We recommend you consider trying "Juice Plus Complete". It scores in the "EXCELLENT" Category; one serving has a 25% Daily Value, excellent by anyones standards."

Benefits of Juice Plus Complete:

More protein: from a proprietary blend providing a variety of proteins from water-washed soy, peas, chickpeas, tofu, rice, and other plant sources.

More fiber: 8 grams per serving - in a healthful blend of soluble and insoluble fibers from apples, corn, rice and other plant sources.

Less fat: less than ½ gram per 100 calories.

Less sugar: only 8 grams per 100 calories - from organic sugar cane, monk fruit, stevia and other plant sources.

Fewer calories: 120 calories per serving – better for you than just about any other 120 calories you’re likely to eat or drink.

Even the carbs are healthy - 20 grams per serving: our all-natural plant sources of slow releasing, low-glycemic index carbohydrates include quinoa, amaranth, and millet in a proprietary blend of “ancient grains” that have been cultivated for centuries.

It also contains a complete profile of amino acids, which are an important part of muscle growth.
It doesn't contain gluten, or dairy either which seems ideal for what IzzyRoseDixon is looking for
xx

Sorry not doubting you but you cannot just post, what appears to be a promotional blurb from a site trying to sell the product and its making me suspect that you are a sales agent for this product.

What was asked for was a study or legitimate source of information about whey protein not being easily utilised.

If you are going to recommend this sort of thing to the OP and make claims about how great it is and how much better it is than alternatives surely you have to be able to offer some evidence?

Not sure how information is a sales pitch?? at no point have I offered to sell anything.

Sorry IzzyRoseDixon, I was trying to be helpful, but there is usually at least one person chomping at the bit to tell you that you are wrong, and make you feel like you need a PHD and an army of scientists to offer your opinion.

Oh and I've just received an email from them saying if you enter the code 10YEAR you get a free vest and shaker with every order, its their 10 year anniversary.

Hemp powder