Phentermine and Tiredness
angela13081
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So my doctor put me on Phentermine for 4 months only to help me jump start my weight loss and change my habits. The problem is I am so weak. I feel out of breath pretty much all the time. I am exercising every day for about an hour (usually 30 minutes of running/30 minutes of strength training) so I am blaming some of the soreness on that. However, working out is HARD! I have run before at various points in my life and the breathing of course got easier out of time, but this time, it doesn't seem to be changing. And my energy is pretty much gone (except for maybe a spurt in the morning when I first take it). Do you think it's just me getting older (I'm 32) and taking longer to get back in shape or could it be the phentermine? Kinda hard to change habits on it when I'm physically exhausted. I'm thinking of cutting back to half a pill. Thoughts?
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Find a new doctor. I felt miserable when I was hooked on meth too.0
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Also forgot to mention that I am out of breath a lot even just sitting down. And have had several periods of time where I couldn't take a deep breath. Almost felt like asthma.0
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Because your heart is working overtime. Please listen to your body, it is screaming that you are injuring it. There is no magic pill. All you can hope for when taking this medication is that you will win a class action law suit when people start to die from it and you will have millions of dollars to help pay for your O2 tanks and meds until you die like my best friend's mother in law.0
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I'm 47 and taking phentermine, I do cut my pill into 75/25 %.and I take the 75% the whole pill makes me jitter. As for lack of energy, I eat a bit of breakfast before I go to the gym, it really helps. I was never a breakfast guy, but now I am, nothing crazy, just 1 scamble egg and some homemade vege juice. It gets easier when you become stronger. but my trick is to find something I love to do when I was a kid. Dancing and martial art, so I fired up the Xbox/kinect and bought some discs and play. it really helps to start.
I used to be a once a week gym guy, Now I'm 7 days a week. I'm an open book, feel free to look at my diary. or maybe friend me.0 -
I'm not sure your results, but Phentermine literally made me forget to eat anything at all most days, and on days I did eat, it was a very small amount. I ended up blacking out while putting away groceries and going to the ER to spend the next few hours hooked up to an IV pumping me full of fluids for dehydration. My blood pressure had dropped to next to nothing.
If you aren't eating anything, and you are working out for an hour a day, well... you do the math. Your body has no fuel to use for these workouts. Wean yourself off the phentermine, keep working out, and start eating again!0 -
I took that for a while and it actually gave me more energy. It doesn't sound normal that it is making you so tired and you are out of breath.
You do need to make sure you eat regular meals and keep your calorie intake enough to fuel your body.
I had no problem with it and it did help curb my appetite for a few months and then it wore off.0 -
yeah that stuff is terrible for your heart.. you're better off drinking redbulls all day honestly. I would tell your doctor you want to be taken off of it. You can't breath because your heart is working so hard.. you are supposed to gain energy from it, not be so tired that you run out of it. Clearly your body is telling you that you cannot handle it. Get off.0
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I am eating about 1200-1400 calories a day. It has helped curb my appetite but I force myself to eat a protein and carb every three hours (like greek yogurt with granola or a KIND bar). After all, trying to change habits or all this is for nothing. I was eating horribly so also thinking maybe I am going through carb and sugar withdrawal. Sounds like I need to cut it in half and see if that helps. My doctor also suggested taking it every other day.0
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You can do this without the pill. Just try it.0
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By the way, my mom has a lung condition that is genetic in her case but most people assume that it's because she used a diet drug in the 80's. This drug caused a bunch of people to have pulmonary hypertension (high blood pressure in the lungs) With this condition, the lungs work too hard and the heart becomes enlarged from trying to keep up. The end result is death by heart failure, or a double lung transplant to cure it. This drug from the 80's that many many people took for weight loss was called PHEN PHEN....think about it....0
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I have taken phentermine and seen results, usually about 20lbs a month but as soon as I stop taking them I gain the weight right back. I took my at noon and that gave me the energy I needed because if I took them in the morning my energy ran out before the end of the day. If you're going to stay on them try taking them around 12pm...but it's easier to loose weight without them and there aren't any risky side effects!0
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It's the Phentermine. I was on it and experienced the same thing. My doc prescribed it as well, but honestly it doesn't do a whole lot for teaching you new habits. I did feel weak out of breath, dizzy, and working out is something you really should not do hardcore on it. My suggestion is to get off of it. You don't need to jumpstart your weight loss, weight loss will happen when you start setting and working towards healthy goals. Start with planning meals, and making small daily changes in the way you eat. for example, change from sugar to stevia, or soda to juice or flavored waters. Change from chips to fruit and add more whole foods. You will see you lose more weight this way, it lasts longer, and you feel AMAZING when you give your body good food! Also, once I cam off Phentermine and gained the weigh back it was harder the next time around. I have done both and trust me the healthy way is the best way!
Good Luck. Nothing (even losing weight) is worth how you are feeling now!0 -
By the way, my mom has a lung condition that is genetic in her case but most people assume that it's because she used a diet drug in the 80's. This drug caused a bunch of people to have pulmonary hypertension (high blood pressure in the lungs) With this condition, the lungs work too hard and the heart becomes enlarged from trying to keep up. The end result is death by heart failure, or a double lung transplant to cure it. This drug from the 80's that many many people took for weight loss was called PHEN PHEN....think about it....
Fen-Phen was a combination of fenfluramine and phentermine. Fenfluramine is what caused the heart and lung problems, which is why Fen-Phen and fenfluramine are no longer on the market. Phentermine doesn't have those effects, however, side effects DO include exactly what the OP is saying. It is considered a SERIOUS side effect and you should call your doctor immediately.0 -
By the way, my mom has a lung condition that is genetic in her case but most people assume that it's because she used a diet drug in the 80's. This drug caused a bunch of people to have pulmonary hypertension (high blood pressure in the lungs) With this condition, the lungs work too hard and the heart becomes enlarged from trying to keep up. The end result is death by heart failure, or a double lung transplant to cure it. This drug from the 80's that many many people took for weight loss was called PHEN PHEN....think about it....
Fen-Phen was a combination of fenfluramine and phentermine. Fenfluramine is what caused the heart and lung problems, which is why Fen-Phen and fenfluramine are no longer on the market. Phentermine doesn't have those effects, however, side effects DO include exactly what the OP is saying. It is considered a SERIOUS side effect and you should call your doctor immediately.
Didn't know this, I always thought it was Phen Phen. Thank you. Either way, I wouldn't trust it. Everyone thought Fen-Phen was okay until they found out otherwise.0 -
KICK THE PHENTERMINE TO THE CURB!!! I was prescribed that by my doctor as well... it is a horrible so called 'jump start.' All it does is kill your appetite and along with it comes what most call Phen rage. If you are not eating while on it you are pretty much destroying your metabolism. Clean eating and exercise. It is amazing the things your body will do if you feed it the right things. For me clean eating and working out has gotten me a 37 lb loss in 100 days, as well as a ton of more energy without caffine.0
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Also forgot to mention that I am out of breath a lot even just sitting down. And have had several periods of time where I couldn't take a deep breath. Almost felt like asthma.
If you are short of breath at rest you need to see your doctor ASAP0 -
Also forgot to mention that I am out of breath a lot even just sitting down. And have had several periods of time where I couldn't take a deep breath. Almost felt like asthma.
The phentermine is causing this. It was the same for me when I was on it.. horrible stuff.0 -
Please do some more research about Phentermine before you decide to continue taking the pills. What you described is not a carb and/or sugar withdrawal; you are experiencing side effects of the phentermine. Diet pills tend to take a two-pronged approach in order to achieve weight-loss. The most common is to load the pills up with caffeine so that the user's heart rate increases (in an attempt to mimic exercising). The second is to alter the chemicals in the user's brain to give a false sensation of being full. Some pills, like what you are using, do both. Read through your comments: someone else stated that she has taken phentermine and seen results, until she stops using. That's because diet pills wreak havoc on your natural metabolism and even short term use can do serious harm to your body. I would strongly urge you to seriously reconsider your use of these, and any other, diet pills.0
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Phentermine also causes high blood pressure.0
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By the way, my mom has a lung condition that is genetic in her case but most people assume that it's because she used a diet drug in the 80's. This drug caused a bunch of people to have pulmonary hypertension (high blood pressure in the lungs) With this condition, the lungs work too hard and the heart becomes enlarged from trying to keep up. The end result is death by heart failure, or a double lung transplant to cure it. This drug from the 80's that many many people took for weight loss was called PHEN PHEN....think about it....
Fen-Phen was a combination of fenfluramine and phentermine. Fenfluramine is what caused the heart and lung problems, which is why Fen-Phen and fenfluramine are no longer on the market. Phentermine doesn't have those effects, however, side effects DO include exactly what the OP is saying. It is considered a SERIOUS side effect and you should call your doctor immediately.
Didn't know this, I always thought it was Phen Phen. Thank you. Either way, I wouldn't trust it. Everyone thought Fen-Phen was okay until they found out otherwise.
I didn't either! I just decided to research out of curiosity.0 -
Just because they found it to be the the "fen" and kicked that out doesn't mean the straight "phen" won't do the same harm down the road. It's just really plain reckless to take pills like this IMO. To each his own.0
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So it seems you are having a paradoxical reaction to amphetamines here, but that's beside the point. You do not need drugs to lose weight. There is no reason to risk the side effects of a drug you don't need.0
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Well I did a lot of research last night and then tried to go for a run with my fiance and wanted to die so I have decided to stop taking it. If I can't exercise, then what is the point of even taking it. Plus, it looks like I was starting to have symptoms for something called Pulmonary Hypertension (which is BAD). So I am pretty nervous about doing this without it, but I have pretty good motivation. It just seems like a lot of weight to still lose compared to what I have lost in the past. I have never been able to lose more than 10 lbs at a time before I just give up. Self control and I have don't get along. But my fiance very nicely pointed out that , cellulite appeared all over my legs overnight a few months ago, which he was withholding to protect my feelings, but was an even bigger wake up call. So off I go. Hope the breathing stuff goes away quickly so I can get back to running.0
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Well I did a lot of research last night and then tried to go for a run with my fiance and wanted to die so I have decided to stop taking it. If I can't exercise, then what is the point of even taking it. Plus, it looks like I was starting to have symptoms for something called Pulmonary Hypertension (which is BAD). So I am pretty nervous about doing this without it, but I have pretty good motivation. It just seems like a lot of weight to still lose compared to what I have lost in the past. I have never been able to lose more than 10 lbs at a time before I just give up. Self control and I have don't get along. But my fiance very nicely pointed out that , cellulite appeared all over my legs overnight a few months ago, which he was withholding to protect my feelings, but was an even bigger wake up call. So off I go. Hope the breathing stuff goes away quickly so I can get back to running.0
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Hiyas,
I have mixed thoughts on the drug to be honest and I guess my reasons are a little different. It does the opposite for me! I actually have more energy with it.
My BMI is currently 25.1 (although BMI doesn't mean much) and i'm on 30mg of it.
I had gained sooo much weight from steroids for a lung disease. Carrying the extra weight and having it so hard to judge because of a few different medications was making me more out of breathe and my oxygen would be lower.
I actually lost about 5kg before I went on it and i've lost almost another 5kg on it int he last month. I don't take it everyday and I was only on 15mg til a few weeks ago. My doctor told me even though my BMI is pretty much normal the weight is too much for my tiny frame to hold and when I weigh less it is easier on my lungs.
I dont' take it everyday but it makes me not want to eat at all....even the days I don't take it I don't want to eat now....which leads me to think maybe my appetite is just gone anyway and it isn't the phen having an affect.
I see so many mixed reviews- some people who think it is great and others who think it is evil. (I cannot do exercise because my lungs just aren't good enough- I go to the hospital twice a week to do pulmonary rehab which is a little bit of exercise whilst being monitored)
Not sure what to think or do at the moment!- I reallllly have to FORCE myself to eat....I dreamed of losing weight like this and would try so hard to keep a lower calorie intake...but now it feels like it is too easy and I amnot sure if it is right. But I have talked about it with my doctor and we both agreed it is best for me0 -
I have taken it. I was just like you, I had a hard time losing weight and controlling what I ate so I asked, no begged, my doctor to put me on Phentermine. She finally agreed and I started taking in. I lost 10 lbs in 1 week. I stopped taking it after one week because of the side effects and anxiety that comes with taking this drug. I am a healthy 27 yr old with no pre-existing diseases or conditions. My doctor was not concerned about major side effects or long term damage but it still freaked me out. I was up at night worrying that my heart would just stop. Insomnia comes from the anxiety you feel about that this drug. I even stopped taking all my other medications including Zyrtec and birth control because I was so worried about drug interactions. I am not opposed to taking this drug to control your eating but heed my warning, this coming from a healthy individual with really nothing to worry about: THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS DRUG. TAKE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Here are my tips if you decide to go against what everyone is saying, like I did.
-Use this as a real opportunity to completely change how you eat. Don't use this as an excuse not to eat at all. You need nutrition and since food will disgust you, use this time to start eating healthy foods that you wouldn't eat normally.
-Eat heart healthy foods just in case: Mixed Berries, whole wheat, oatmeal, avocados, etc.
-Monitor your blood pressure every 2 days at Walgreens for free. If it's above 120/85 or higher be VERY concerned and stop taking phentermine IMMEDIATELY. This is proof that your heart can not handle this drug.
-Just relax. Most likely, unless you have a pre exisiting condition, your heart will not just stop.
Here are some side effects I suffered that were apparently completely normal:
-Insomnia
-Exaggerated sense of self well being (being happy for no reason)
-Anxiety
-Major cognitive issues (this is the most serious one which is why I stopped taking them) I felt confused and was very forgetful. Made work very difficult. I did not like this feeling
Bottom line, this is not a drug to mess around with. Use it as a tool to completely rehaul your eating habits. This is NOT a magic drug! This isn't a fat burner, it doesn't make you lose weight, it only suppresses your appetite and honestly, if you can't control what you eat you have bigger problems that this pill will not solve. It gave me the chance to completely restructure my eating habits and not I have committed to whole foods like, eating foods that are unprocessed and whole.
Good luck but please don't say we didn't warn you.0 -
I am 45, and I have been taking phentermine as well. At first I had similar symptoms as far as being tired,out of breath, and almost asthmatic. After my body adjusted to the phentermine, I felt fine and was able to maintain between 1200 and 1500 cal a day. Since then I have lost 28 pounds. My weight-loss is managed through a doctors office and I go in regularly to have my labs drawn and everything checked, my blood pressures included.0
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How long did it take before the shortness of breath went away?0
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I am 45, and I have been taking phentermine as well. At first I had similar symptoms as far as being tired,out of breath, and almost asthmatic. After my body adjusted to the phentermine, I felt fine and was able to maintain between 1200 and 1500 cal a day. Since then I have lost 28 pounds. My weight-loss is managed through a doctors office and I go in regularly to have my labs drawn and everything checked, my blood pressures included.
How long did it take for your body to get use to it and your breathing get easier?0
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