Should you eat even if you're not hungry?

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  • Branstin
    Branstin Posts: 2,320 Member
    I'm fairly sure that dessert is the most important meal of the day actually.

    Now, I can live with this one!
  • tracydr
    tracydr Posts: 528 Member
    Eat when hungry. Part of why we get fat is because our society dictates three meals a day, snacks are relatively important and prevalent and mom's make their kids finish their plates. Part of this journey is to learn how to listen to your body signals and understand them.
    I also find that many obese people claim hypoglycemia, which I can never duplicate. Many are simply afraid of hunger pains and start to almost panic the minute their stomach feels empty if they don't have something to put in their mouth right away. They also eat their whole plate, with huge portion sizes.
    Try this-before eating anything try recording in a huger journal- the level of hunger, your feeling ( look up a list of "feelings" and use the list). Eat slowly, chew thoughtfully, sit at the table and no TV , IPAD or computer. Behavioral change is the most important thing to ensure long term success.
    Breakfast is an important meal as you've been fasting for possibly 12 hours. You can divide breakfast into two small snacks through the morning if that works better. No need to eat real breakfast food, either. Many studies show improved school performance in students that eat breakfast.
  • Meerataila
    Meerataila Posts: 1,885 Member
    Nope. Unless you are consuming appetite suppressants or are on a low carb diet (ketosis suppresses appetite), in my non-medical, non-expert opinion, you should wait until you are hungry to eat. And if your boss doesn't like your midmorning meal break, go all low blood sugar rage until you are allowed to do what it is natural for humans to do.
  • Eoghann
    Eoghann Posts: 130 Member
    As others have said it's not a requirement to eat breakfast or to eat on a schedule.

    It does work for some though. So it's really a case of trial and error for each person.

    For me personally, if I eat a small breakfast* that will actually make me hungry earlier, whereas if I don't eat breakfast I generally don't even think about food until lunchtime. And since I like to snack a lot in the evening, it makes staying under my calorie goals much easier.

    If you're experiencing issues with blood sugar levels then scheduled eating is more important. Otherwise I'm in favor of eat when you're hungry.

    *If I stuff myself with an IHOP size breakfast I'm probably good until dinner.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    Eat when hungry. Part of why we get fat is because our society dictates three meals a day, snacks are relatively important and prevalent and mom's make their kids finish their plates. Part of this journey is to learn how to listen to your body signals and understand them.
    I also find that many obese people claim hypoglycemia, which I can never duplicate. Many are simply afraid of hunger pains and start to almost panic the minute their stomach feels empty if they don't have something to put in their mouth right away. They also eat their whole plate, with huge portion sizes.
    Try this-before eating anything try recording in a huger journal- the level of hunger, your feeling ( look up a list of "feelings" and use the list). Eat slowly, chew thoughtfully, sit at the table and no TV , IPAD or computer. Behavioral change is the most important thing to ensure long term success.
    Breakfast is an important meal as you've been fasting for possibly 12 hours. You can divide breakfast into two small snacks through the morning if that works better. No need to eat real breakfast food, either. Many studies show improved school performance in students that eat breakfast.

    Wow, I guess the lifetime of hypoglycemia that led to insulin resistance that eventually became Type II diabetes was all in my head then. Guess I should have kept a better "hunger journal."

    Please, support all of your claims with peer-reviewed research, or, even better, your medical degree. Lots of what you've posted there is simply out-dated and largely denounced psuedo-science.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    As long as you are meeting your calorie requirements and getting all your nutrients, then when you eat isn't important. However, if you are not hungry and you are also under-eating, this is a problem. Hunger (and lack of) is controlled by hormones, and the amount you eat (or not) affects these hormones.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Eat when hungry. Part of why we get fat is because our society dictates three meals a day, snacks are relatively important and prevalent and mom's make their kids finish their plates. Part of this journey is to learn how to listen to your body signals and understand them.
    I also find that many obese people claim hypoglycemia, which I can never duplicate. Many are simply afraid of hunger pains and start to almost panic the minute their stomach feels empty if they don't have something to put in their mouth right away. They also eat their whole plate, with huge portion sizes.
    Try this-before eating anything try recording in a huger journal- the level of hunger, your feeling ( look up a list of "feelings" and use the list). Eat slowly, chew thoughtfully, sit at the table and no TV , IPAD or computer. Behavioral change is the most important thing to ensure long term success.
    Breakfast is an important meal as you've been fasting for possibly 12 hours. You can divide breakfast into two small snacks through the morning if that works better. No need to eat real breakfast food, either. Many studies show improved school performance in students that eat breakfast.

    When I was scary-thin, I'd shovel it down while reading a book. Not saying encouraging mindfulness isn't helpful when you are trying to lose, but it's not necessarily what makes people thin in the first place.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member

    Only if it consists of chocolate or caramel. Otherwise, it's optional.

    ^^This. I was having trouble meeting my iron requirement until I started working in dark chocolate again.

    Milky Way Dark . . . nature's perfect food.
    [/quote]

    Apparently somebody hasn't had the Theo Orange bar yet.
  • JazzFischer1989
    JazzFischer1989 Posts: 531 Member
    I just eat when I'm hungry. My eating schedule is somewhat delayed after years of waking up super late in college so it's not unusual for my first meal of the day to be at 12-1pm even though I'm up by 9-10am nowadays. I tend to eat dinner around 8-9pm.
  • Athena53
    Athena53 Posts: 717 Member
    For me personally, if I eat a small breakfast* that will actually make me hungry earlier, whereas if I don't eat breakfast I generally don't even think about food until lunchtime. And since I like to snack a lot in the evening, it makes staying under my calorie goals much easier.

    *If I stuff myself with an IHOP size breakfast I'm probably good until dinner.

    One interesting exception to my practice of not eating big breakfast was my business travels to India. Darn, I miss the Taj West End in Bangalore. I love Indian food and they had a fantastic breakfast buffet. Some idli (a type of thick pancake), some interesting relishes, a tomato-based soup with lentils, and hot coffee, enjoyed out on the back veranda with a copy of the Hindu Times and exotic flowers all around. Anyway- I did notice that I wasn't looking for snacks around 10 AM as I was at home. We usually ate lunch late (1 or 1:30 PM) because so many people worked late to accommodate business hours in North America and I was fine waiting that long. So, yes, breakfast can make a difference.
  • lasombrs
    lasombrs Posts: 30
    I only eat if i am not really hungry if my calsories are low for that day for some reason
  • for me I use food to norish my body-I don't let myself get super hungry so I don't overeat-I really don't think it matters when you eat-as long as you are eating in order to lose your body needs food to burn are it could hold on to fat-so as long as yo are geeting enough food don't worru
  • SkimFlatWhite68
    SkimFlatWhite68 Posts: 1,254 Member
    Who says breakfast is the most important meal of the day?
    Companies who make breakfast cereals! :smile:

    OP - do what works for you. If you aren't hungry until 11am then start your day with lunch. I agree with so many of the comments written above, we eat because of habit, social situations, boredom, so many reasons. Perhaps getting in touch with your body and eating when you are only hungry will help your overall health and achieve your goals without the pressure of "most important meal of the day" mentality.

    I think the most important meal of the day is the one that sustains you for healthy living.
  • tracydr
    tracydr Posts: 528 Member
    Eat when hungry. Part of why we get fat is because our society dictates three meals a day, snacks are relatively important and prevalent and mom's make their kids finish their plates. Part of this journey is to learn how to listen to your body signals and understand them.
    I also find that many obese people claim hypoglycemia, which I can never duplicate. Many are simply afraid of hunger pains and start to almost panic the minute their stomach feels empty if they don't have something to put in their mouth right away. They also eat their whole plate, with huge portion sizes.
    Try this-before eating anything try recording in a huger journal- the level of hunger, your feeling ( look up a list of "feelings" and use the list). Eat slowly, chew thoughtfully, sit at the table and no TV , IPAD or computer. Behavioral change is the most important thing to ensure long term success.
    Breakfast is an important meal as you've been fasting for possibly 12 hours. You can divide breakfast into two small snacks through the morning if that works better. No need to eat real breakfast food, either. Many studies show improved school performance in students that eat breakfast.

    Wow, I guess the lifetime of hypoglycemia that led to insulin resistance that eventually became Type II diabetes was all in my head then. Guess I should have kept a better "hunger journal."

    Please, support all of your claims with peer-reviewed research, or, even better, your medical degree. Lots of what you've posted there is simply out-dated and largely denounced psuedo-science.
    Not saying that hypoglycemia doesn't exist. It's just that probably 80% of the time or more! when I ask the patient to verify the blood sugar numbers by actually checking them! there are no blood sugars below 60. I'm fully aware that pre-diabetics have lows and highs but I see more people who feel "shaky" with a glucose of 85 than anything else.
    One of my Army patients had an impressive story of frequent hypoglycemia. The official test for this is to admit somebody to the hospital and keep them on fluids, no glucose for up to 4 days, or until they exhibit hypoglycemia. During her entire stay she never had a low blood sugar despite 4 days fasting.
    I was taught in medical school that non-diabetics don't get hypoglycemia without a pancreatic tumor called an insuilinoma. I don't really believe this anymore either, because I have seen a certain subset of patients who experience mild hypoglycemia as prediabetics.
    This is of course not including anybody with diabetes medication which can certainly cause hypoglycemia. If you don't like my posts feel free to ignore them.
  • tracydr
    tracydr Posts: 528 Member
    Eat when hungry. Part of why we get fat is because our society dictates three meals a day, snacks are relatively important and prevalent and mom's make their kids finish their plates. Part of this journey is to learn how to listen to your body signals and understand them.
    I also find that many obese people claim hypoglycemia, which I can never duplicate. Many are simply afraid of hunger pains and start to almost panic the minute their stomach feels empty if they don't have something to put in their mouth right away. They also eat their whole plate, with huge portion sizes.
    Try this-before eating anything try recording in a huger journal- the level of hunger, your feeling ( look up a list of "feelings" and use the list). Eat slowly, chew thoughtfully, sit at the table and no TV , IPAD or computer. Behavioral change is the most important thing to ensure long term success.
    Breakfast is an important meal as you've been fasting for possibly 12 hours. You can divide breakfast into two small snacks through the morning if that works better. No need to eat real breakfast food, either. Many studies show improved school performance in students that eat breakfast.

    Wow, I guess the lifetime of hypoglycemia that led to insulin resistance that eventually became Type II diabetes was all in my head then. Guess I should have kept a better "hunger journal."

    Please, support all of your claims with peer-reviewed research, or, even better, your medical degree. Lots of what you've posted there is simply out-dated and largely denounced psuedo-science.
    I haven't seen very many posters use "peer-reviewed" research to back up their posts. I'm not going to do a literature review everytime I post something. I don't think anybody needs to be held to that standard on a social forum.
  • Jillian130
    Jillian130 Posts: 174 Member
    I only eat when I am hungry. That way I know I am not eating out of boredom, emotions, and all that mindless munching in front of the tv or computer. All that constant grazing is what packed on the pounds in the first place.

    Now I eat when my body tells me its ready and I make sure that I eat till I am content, not stuffed.

    Mind you, when it comes to liquids, I drink lots whether I am thirsty or not. A glass of water is always full on my desk and I drink it non-stop all day.
  • tracydr
    tracydr Posts: 528 Member
    Eat when hungry. Part of why we get fat is because our society dictates three meals a day, snacks are relatively important and prevalent and mom's make their kids finish their plates. Part of this journey is to learn how to listen to your body signals and understand them.
    I also find that many obese people claim hypoglycemia, which I can never duplicate. Many are simply afraid of hunger pains and start to almost panic the minute their stomach feels empty if they don't have something to put in their mouth right away. They also eat their whole plate, with huge portion sizes.
    Try this-before eating anything try recording in a huger journal- the level of hunger, your feeling ( look up a list of "feelings" and use the list). Eat slowly, chew thoughtfully, sit at the table and no TV , IPAD or computer. Behavioral change is the most important thing to ensure long term success.
    Breakfast is an important meal as you've been fasting for possibly 12 hours. You can divide breakfast into two small snacks through the morning if that works better. No need to eat real breakfast food, either. Many studies show improved school performance in students that eat breakfast.

    Wow, I guess the lifetime of hypoglycemia that led to insulin resistance that eventually became Type II diabetes was all in my head then. Guess I should have kept a better "hunger journal."

    Please, support all of your claims with peer-reviewed research, or, even better, your medical degree. Lots of what you've posted there is simply out-dated and largely denounced psuedo-science.
    Here you go. This is from the Journal of Diabetes. It looks like they studied 367,052 patients, 8,655 people had diabetes so I believe the rest did not have diabetes. The only incidents of hypoglycemia that they mention in the abstract occurred in diabetics.
    Now, I was unable to read this article because I don't have a membership. But, abstracts usually include all significant findings. I'm not going to waste my time looking for any other studies, since this is not a scientific social forum and there is no need to back up everything said on here with peer reviewed studies.


    OBJECTIVE—To determine the incidence, predisposing factors, and costs of emergency treatment of severe hypoglycemia in people with type 1 and type 2 diabetes.

    RESEARCH DESIGN AND METHODS—Over a 12-month period, routinely collected datasets were analyzed in a population of 367,051 people, including 8,655 people with diabetes, to measure the incidence of severe hypoglycemia that required emergency assistance from Ninewells Hospital and Medical School (NHS) personnel including those in primary care, ambulance services, hospital accident and emergency departments, and inpatient care. Associated costs with these episodes were calculated.

    RESULTS—A total of 244 episodes of severe hypoglycemia were recorded in 160 patients, comprising 69 (7.1%) people with type 1 diabetes, 66 (7.3%) with type 2 diabetes treated with insulin, and 23 (0.8%) with type 2 diabetes treated with sulfonylurea tablets. Incidence rates were 11.5 and 11.8 events per 100 patient-years for type 1 and type 2 patients treated with insulin, respectively. Age, duration, and socioeconomic status were identified as risk factors for severe hypoglycemia. One in three cases were treated solely by the ambulance service with no other contact from health care professionals. The total estimated cost of emergency treatment of severe hypoglycemia was ≤£92,078 in one year.

    CONCLUSIONS—Hypoglycemia requiring emergency assistance from health service personnel is as common in people with type 2 diabetes treated with insulin as in people with type 1 diabetes. It is associated with considerable NHS resource use that has a significant economic and personal cost.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    Do you know the difference between "severe" hypoglycemia and hypoglycemia in general? That's like saying sprained ankles don't exist because they don't require hospitalization for life-threatening events. There are times that any person can have low blood sugar. In mild hypoglycemia, a person is alert and conscious, but his or her blood sugar has dipped below 80. In moderate hypoglycemia, a person can be alert but disoriented and maybe even combative if someone attempts to offer assistance. He or she does not need to be hospitalized--yet--but requires treatment because s/he has blood glucose levels under 70. Severe hypoglycemia is life-threatening, since blood glucose levels have dipped below 60 or so and the person is inevitably unconscious. One study on *severe* hypoglycemia does not disprove the presence of mild or moderate hypoglycemia. My information, by the way, comes from the American Diabetes Association--people who might know a thing or two about the illness.

    Edited to add:

    Wow, I guess the lifetime of hypoglycemia that led to insulin resistance that eventually became Type II diabetes was all in my head then. Guess I should have kept a better "hunger journal."

    Please, support all of your claims with peer-reviewed research, or, even better, your medical degree. Lots of what you've posted there is simply out-dated and largely denounced psuedo-science.
    I haven't seen very many posters use "peer-reviewed" research to back up their posts. I'm not going to do a literature review everytime I post something. I don't think anybody needs to be held to that standard on a social forum.

    Don't make wild, unproven claims and no one will ask you to prove it. Present personal bias/theory and psuedo-science as fact and I will call you out on it every time I see it.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    Duplicate post
  • Iwishyouwell
    Iwishyouwell Posts: 1,888 Member
    I only eat when I am hungry. That way I know I am not eating out of boredom, emotions, and all that mindless munching in front of the tv or computer. All that constant grazing is what packed on the pounds in the first place.

    Now I eat when my body tells me its ready and I make sure that I eat till I am content, not stuffed.

    Mind you, when it comes to liquids, I drink lots whether I am thirsty or not. A glass of water is always full on my desk and I drink it non-stop all day.

    Most of the people that I know well, who never had a weight problem, eat like this.
  • amcook4
    amcook4 Posts: 561 Member
    I asked my dietitian this question this morning. She said as long as I'm over the minimum 1200 calories for the day, no need to eat more.
  • lukewind
    lukewind Posts: 177 Member
    I eat on a rough schedule but I snack when I am hungry,
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    OK folks, I'm taking a consensus from people with successful weight loss and maintenance. Do you eat only when you're hungry or do you eat on a schedule?

    I know breakfast is the most important meal of the day but some days I'm just not hungry until 11 -11:30 AM. Some days I want to eat my largest meal at 3:30-4PM and then have a light snack at 7PM. Is it so wrong to just listen to my body's hunger clock? Just wondering....

    Just to reiterate what's already been said, for emphasis, breakfast is not the most important meal of the day.

    To answer your question, I eat on a rough schedule, every 3-4 hours depending on what's going on during the day. It's habitual. I never really get hungry hungry, even if it's been an entire day but I can always eat.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Is it so wrong to just listen to my body's hunger clock? Just wondering....

    Nope, unless you have cause to believe your hunger clock is a little off. For example, when I go alpine climbing, I have to fight myself to eat once a day, and keeping hungry enough to eat 1100 calories is a chore, when I'm shooting for 2500 during the days on my trip.

    I know with how those trips go, i'm burning a lot more than 2500, and I have to fight to eat. In general though, that's not common unless someone has compromised themselves with things like bulimia.
  • Lesnotmore
    Lesnotmore Posts: 4 Member
    Hey I cannot quote the medical journal or source but I've read and firmly believe that eating protein in the morning is very important to overall health and mental alertness. From my perspective, keeping my mind sharp from 8 to noon at work was critical in my career. Drinking coffee all morning with no food usually led to my frequent run-on sentences at important meetings, crazy multi-tasking at my desk and running my staff ragged. If you are coffee junkie and wait to eat in the afternoon or later, ask your staff and your family how your morning nutrition plan is working for them :)

    My approach is eating about 200-250 calories, after exercise, in the morning with 30 % protein and fat, along with 40% healthy carbs. Extra bonus, if you are pre-diabetic it will keep your glucose more level until lunch. May not work for all but just wanted to share my personal experience.