The Carbs/Sugar in Fruit

So I have a question about fruit. I generally eat 1-2 pieces of whole grain bread a day and about 4 pieces of fruit and my carbs are through the roof! Do you count those carbs in the same manner as you count carbs from bread or potatos or rice or something? It bums me out cause I'm never within my carb goal due to fruit
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  • CCSavage88
    CCSavage88 Posts: 191
    A carb is a carb and sugar is sugar...our bodies don't say well here's a bread carb or here's a veg carb.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    Yes you count them the same, they are both sugar. Hate to break this to you but vegetables...also sugar. Carbohydrates are sugars plain and simple, whether they come from bread or potatos (starches) or fruit (fructose sugar) or veg (cellulose) or from a sugar packet (dextrose sugar).

    That said why are you concerned about your carb intake? Carbs don't really matter, fat matters...protein matters...carbs are filler for energy.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    If anything reduce your other carbs and add in more meat. At least fruits and veggies have lots of vitamins, minerals and fiber. The bigger issue is making sure you get enough protein in your diet to aid in muscle retention and MFP is already fairly low as it's based on US standards.
  • kellymac518
    kellymac518 Posts: 132 Member
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    A carb is a carb and sugar is sugar...our bodies don't say well here's a bread carb or here's a veg carb.
    No. But our bodies don't quite handle them the same way, at the same pace, with the same response.

    That said, OP: log them all. And after awhile, when you see some patterns, you might find yourself naturally adding more "vegetable carbs" and fewer "bread carbs", or you might not.

    For me, more vegetables and fruits works better.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.

    A medical condition is really the only reason to avoid carbs or minimize carbs. If the OP doesn't have it, there is no reason to avoid high carb fruits.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.

    A medical condition is really the only reason to avoid carbs or minimize carbs. If the OP doesn't have it, there is no reason to avoid high carb fruits.
    Unless you find that by eating certain fruits you find yourself hungry and craving more food sooner, thus making it harder to stay at a deficit.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    So I have a question about fruit. I generally eat 1-2 pieces of whole grain bread a day and about 4 pieces of fruit and my carbs are through the roof! Do you count those carbs in the same manner as you count carbs from bread or potatos or rice or something? It bums me out cause I'm never within my carb goal due to fruit
    Out of curiosity, what was your total carb intake yesterday? I'm trying to get a sense of what "through the roof" means to you.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.

    A medical condition is really the only reason to avoid carbs or minimize carbs. If the OP doesn't have it, there is no reason to avoid high carb fruits.
    Unless you find that by eating certain fruits you find yourself hungry and craving more food sooner, thus making it harder to stay at a deficit.

    Fair point, if we want to make this discussion about satiety. The same would go for a lot of foods.


    But from a weight loss perspective, it really doesn't matter outside of water retention from the additional glycogen stores from a carb heavy diet.
  • jessilee119
    jessilee119 Posts: 444 Member
    So I have a question about fruit. I generally eat 1-2 pieces of whole grain bread a day and about 4 pieces of fruit and my carbs are through the roof! Do you count those carbs in the same manner as you count carbs from bread or potatos or rice or something? It bums me out cause I'm never within my carb goal due to fruit
    Out of curiosity, what was your total carb intake yesterday? I'm trying to get a sense of what "through the roof" means to you.

    ^This. Plus, are you trying to lower your carb intake or trying a low carb diet? I eat more carbs than you listed above and I'm not over my recommended daily limit (today alone I had a smoothie with yogurt, strawberries, and 1/2 a banana then for lunch I had a cup of soup which had pasta, veggies, and 2 slices of cantaloupe and for dinner I'm going to have a sandwich with the sandwich thins, cheese/lunch meat, lettuce, and tomatoes [plus a couple of snacks that have carbs] and I'm still under like 6 carbs-give or take the accuracy of the food database.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    So I have a question about fruit. I generally eat 1-2 pieces of whole grain bread a day and about 4 pieces of fruit and my carbs are through the roof! Do you count those carbs in the same manner as you count carbs from bread or potatos or rice or something? It bums me out cause I'm never within my carb goal due to fruit
    Out of curiosity, what was your total carb intake yesterday? I'm trying to get a sense of what "through the roof" means to you.

    I would also throw in there, how many calories are you eating, what is your current height, weight age and workout routine and if you have medical conditions?
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.

    A medical condition is really the only reason to avoid carbs or minimize carbs. If the OP doesn't have it, there is no reason to avoid high carb fruits.
    Unless you find that by eating certain fruits you find yourself hungry and craving more food sooner, thus making it harder to stay at a deficit.

    Fair point, if we want to make this discussion about satiety. The same would go for a lot of foods.


    But from a weight loss perspective, it really doesn't matter outside of water retention from the additional glycogen stores from a carb heavy diet.
    Not disagreeing. Just reminding us that there's more to successful weight loss and ultimately maintenance than just counting calories. And, in fact, it can be achieved without any calorie or macro counting. cheers
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    So I have a question about fruit. I generally eat 1-2 pieces of whole grain bread a day and about 4 pieces of fruit and my carbs are through the roof! Do you count those carbs in the same manner as you count carbs from bread or potatos or rice or something? It bums me out cause I'm never within my carb goal due to fruit
    Out of curiosity, what was your total carb intake yesterday? I'm trying to get a sense of what "through the roof" means to you.

    I would also throw in there, how many calories are you eating, what is your current height, weight age and workout routine and if you have medical conditions?
    Yup
  • martinel2099
    martinel2099 Posts: 899 Member
    Yes it counts, everything you put into your mouth does. Fruit is a great choice though. Lots of nutrients and it will leave you more satisfied
  • angiez93
    angiez93 Posts: 63
    A carb is a carb and sugar is sugar...our bodies don't say well here's a bread carb or here's a veg carb.
    No. But our bodies don't quite handle them the same way, at the same pace, with the same response.

    That said, OP: log them all. And after awhile, when you see some patterns, you might find yourself naturally adding more "vegetable carbs" and fewer "bread carbs", or you might not.

    For me, more vegetables and fruits works better.

    This!
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    A carb is a carb and sugar is sugar...our bodies don't say well here's a bread carb or here's a veg carb.

    What do you mean? Fructose, glucose, sucrose, dextrose, etc. do have differences. That's why we have different names for them. And different things do happen to them in our bodies, even if our bodies don't say anything aloud.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.

    A medical condition is really the only reason to avoid carbs or minimize carbs. If the OP doesn't have it, there is no reason to avoid high carb fruits.
    Unless you find that by eating certain fruits you find yourself hungry and craving more food sooner, thus making it harder to stay at a deficit.

    Fair point, if we want to make this discussion about satiety. The same would go for a lot of foods.


    But from a weight loss perspective, it really doesn't matter outside of water retention from the additional glycogen stores from a carb heavy diet.

    I don't understand this perspective at all. How can satiety not matter for weight loss? Water weight aside, satiety is a very big factor in fat loss.
  • crfeen
    crfeen Posts: 85 Member
    So I have a question about fruit. I generally eat 1-2 pieces of whole grain bread a day and about 4 pieces of fruit and my carbs are through the roof! Do you count those carbs in the same manner as you count carbs from bread or potatos or rice or something? It bums me out cause I'm never within my carb goal due to fruit
    Out of curiosity, what was your total carb intake yesterday? I'm trying to get a sense of what "through the roof" means to you.

    Yesterday my carb intake was 216!
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    In for later
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    So I have a question about fruit. I generally eat 1-2 pieces of whole grain bread a day and about 4 pieces of fruit and my carbs are through the roof! Do you count those carbs in the same manner as you count carbs from bread or potatos or rice or something? It bums me out cause I'm never within my carb goal due to fruit
    Out of curiosity, what was your total carb intake yesterday? I'm trying to get a sense of what "through the roof" means to you.

    Yesterday my carb intake was 216!

    That doesn't sounds too bad. Do you know how much of it was fiber? How many total calories do you eat?
  • crfeen
    crfeen Posts: 85 Member
    So I have a question about fruit. I generally eat 1-2 pieces of whole grain bread a day and about 4 pieces of fruit and my carbs are through the roof! Do you count those carbs in the same manner as you count carbs from bread or potatos or rice or something? It bums me out cause I'm never within my carb goal due to fruit
    Out of curiosity, what was your total carb intake yesterday? I'm trying to get a sense of what "through the roof" means to you.

    I would also throw in there, how many calories are you eating, what is your current height, weight age and workout routine and if you have medical conditions?
    Yup
    I'll add it in my edits!
  • LaneB89
    LaneB89 Posts: 93 Member
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.

    A medical condition is really the only reason to avoid carbs or minimize carbs. If the OP doesn't have it, there is no reason to avoid high carb fruits.
    Unless you find that by eating certain fruits you find yourself hungry and craving more food sooner, thus making it harder to stay at a deficit.

    Fair point, if we want to make this discussion about satiety. The same would go for a lot of foods.


    But from a weight loss perspective, it really doesn't matter outside of water retention from the additional glycogen stores from a carb heavy diet.

    I don't understand this perspective at all. How can satiety not matter for weight loss? Water weight aside, satiety is a very big factor in fat loss.

    Nope. You seem to be assuming that someone who is not sated HAS to eat more or something bad will happen. Luckily, as human beings, we possess free will. Not feeling sated does not mean you HAVE to eat. It's a mild annoyance that you can ignore because, living in a civilized society, your next meal is always only a few hours away. You do not lose more or less weight depending on how sated you feel between meals. You only lose more or less weight when you act on your "hunger".
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    So I have a question about fruit. I generally eat 1-2 pieces of whole grain bread a day and about 4 pieces of fruit and my carbs are through the roof! Do you count those carbs in the same manner as you count carbs from bread or potatos or rice or something? It bums me out cause I'm never within my carb goal due to fruit
    Out of curiosity, what was your total carb intake yesterday? I'm trying to get a sense of what "through the roof" means to you.

    Yesterday my carb intake was 216!

    And how many total calories?
  • crfeen
    crfeen Posts: 85 Member
    Add on: I am 5'4 and 165 pounds, I'm looking to lose about 30 pounds. I usually end up in the 200s for carbs, I work out 3-4 times a week about 90 minutes and I eat between 1000-1300 calories a day
  • crfeen
    crfeen Posts: 85 Member
    1200
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.

    A medical condition is really the only reason to avoid carbs or minimize carbs. If the OP doesn't have it, there is no reason to avoid high carb fruits.
    Unless you find that by eating certain fruits you find yourself hungry and craving more food sooner, thus making it harder to stay at a deficit.

    Fair point, if we want to make this discussion about satiety. The same would go for a lot of foods.


    But from a weight loss perspective, it really doesn't matter outside of water retention from the additional glycogen stores from a carb heavy diet.

    I don't understand this perspective at all. How can satiety not matter for weight loss? Water weight aside, satiety is a very big factor in fat loss.

    Nope. You seem to be assuming that someone who is not sated HAS to eat more or something bad will happen. Luckily, as human beings, we possess free will. Not feeling sated does not mean you HAVE to eat. It's a mild annoyance that you can ignore because, living in a civilized society, your next meal is always only a few hours away. You do not lose more or less weight depending on how sated you feel between meals. You only lose more or less weight when you act on your "hunger".
    I don't think I'd like living my life constantly feeling hungry, (or jittery, or like my blood sugar was low for that matter). blech. I'll keep choosing tasty foods that fuel my body, have plenty of slow burning carbs, and fiber. It's about finding what works. This works for me. Satiety. is crucial.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    Add on: I am 5'4 and 165 pounds, I'm looking to lose about 30 pounds. I usually end up in the 200s for carbs, I work out 3-4 times a week about 90 minutes and I eat between 1000-1300 calories a day

    With this information, I would say carbs are heavy and calories are very low.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.

    A medical condition is really the only reason to avoid carbs or minimize carbs. If the OP doesn't have it, there is no reason to avoid high carb fruits.
    Unless you find that by eating certain fruits you find yourself hungry and craving more food sooner, thus making it harder to stay at a deficit.

    Fair point, if we want to make this discussion about satiety. The same would go for a lot of foods.


    But from a weight loss perspective, it really doesn't matter outside of water retention from the additional glycogen stores from a carb heavy diet.

    I don't understand this perspective at all. How can satiety not matter for weight loss? Water weight aside, satiety is a very big factor in fat loss.

    Nope. You seem to be assuming that someone who is not sated HAS to eat more or something bad will happen. Luckily, as human beings, we possess free will. Not feeling sated does not mean you HAVE to eat. It's a mild annoyance that you can ignore because, living in a civilized society, your next meal is always only a few hours away. You do not lose more or less weight depending on how sated you feel between meals. You only lose more or less weight when you act on your "hunger".

    If we only overate when HAD to, there would be far fewer overweight people. Satiety matters. We are not machines.
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.

    A medical condition is really the only reason to avoid carbs or minimize carbs. If the OP doesn't have it, there is no reason to avoid high carb fruits.
    Unless you find that by eating certain fruits you find yourself hungry and craving more food sooner, thus making it harder to stay at a deficit.

    Fair point, if we want to make this discussion about satiety. The same would go for a lot of foods.


    But from a weight loss perspective, it really doesn't matter outside of water retention from the additional glycogen stores from a carb heavy diet.
    Not disagreeing. Just reminding us that there's more to successful weight loss and ultimately maintenance than just counting calories. And, in fact, it can be achieved without any calorie or macro counting. cheers

    Why are you on a calorie counting website then?
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    you should do some research to figure out which fruits are higher carb vs. lower carb... I try to avoid things like pineapple, bananas, oranges, apples (4 of my favorite fruits) and go for strawberries or other berries that are low carb/sugar because of my insulin resistance.

    A medical condition is really the only reason to avoid carbs or minimize carbs. If the OP doesn't have it, there is no reason to avoid high carb fruits.
    Unless you find that by eating certain fruits you find yourself hungry and craving more food sooner, thus making it harder to stay at a deficit.

    Fair point, if we want to make this discussion about satiety. The same would go for a lot of foods.


    But from a weight loss perspective, it really doesn't matter outside of water retention from the additional glycogen stores from a carb heavy diet.
    Not disagreeing. Just reminding us that there's more to successful weight loss and ultimately maintenance than just counting calories. And, in fact, it can be achieved without any calorie or macro counting. cheers

    Why are you on a calorie counting website then?
    :ohwell: Because it's called myFITNESSpal. And I'm interested in nutrition, health, fitness, and sharing ideas with others.
    Regardless, my comment didn't state that I was not counting calories.