cabrs 'v' fats

Chobani Greek yogurt
Skim milk
no fat cottage cheese
egg whites
Chicken breast
certain fish

cinnamon toast crunch cereal

I was going to say that this was turning out to be like an IIFYM feed..... and then at that very moment someone said "Poptarts". And there you have it.

Not a poptart eater myself. Fruit has tonnes of carbs and are great for grab and go.

Right, but OP is trying to bulk
So he wants calories

I was going to say that this was turning out to be like an IIFYM feed..... and then at that very moment someone said "Poptarts". And there you have it.

Not a poptart eater myself. Fruit has tonnes of carbs and are great for grab and go.

Once the OP has hit his requirement minimums for protein and fat and fiber...
Then the other calories he needs to achieve his goals can be whatever he likes.

That is what you are missing when you discount IIFYM

I don't discount IIFYM - I'm in the facebook group and I get my macros from there. With 60g F a day its not all poptarts and McGangbangs that everyone makes it out to be. That being said I believe in eating things you like as well as getting your micro nutrients. As a guy myself in my 40's myself I find it harder eating high sugar foods while losing because of the cravings and "triggers" that it cause for me. If its coming from his trainer then his trainer should have recommended what he wants him to eat - i say that because my trainer is about broscience and not IIFYM. I dont think it had to be one of the other.

I was going to say that this was turning out to be like an IIFYM feed..... and then at that very moment someone said "Poptarts". And there you have it.

Not a poptart eater myself. Fruit has tonnes of carbs and are great for grab and go.

Once the OP has hit his requirement minimums for protein and fat and fiber...
Then the other calories he needs to achieve his goals can be whatever he likes.

That is what you are missing when you discount IIFYM

I don't discount IIFYM - I'm in the facebook group and I get my macros from there. With 60g F a day its not all poptarts and McGangbangs that everyone makes it out to be. That being said I believe in eating things you like as well as getting your micro nutrients. As a guy myself in my 40's myself I find it harder eating high sugar foods while losing because of the cravings and "triggers" that it cause for me. If its coming from his trainer then his trainer should have recommended what he wants him to eat - i say that because my trainer is about broscience and not IIFYM. I dont think it had to be one of the other.

but it doesn't matter what his trainer wants him to eat.
His trainer wants him to bulk, or the OP wants to bulk.

So as long as he hits his minimums....then the other calories he needs to be in a surplus can be whatever he likes.

I was going to say that this was turning out to be like an IIFYM feed..... and then at that very moment someone said "Poptarts". And there you have it.

Not a poptart eater myself. Fruit has tonnes of carbs and are great for grab and go.

Once the OP has hit his requirement minimums for protein and fat and fiber...
Then the other calories he needs to achieve his goals can be whatever he likes.

That is what you are missing when you discount IIFYM

I don't discount IIFYM - I'm in the facebook group and I get my macros from there. With 60g F a day its not all poptarts and McGangbangs that everyone makes it out to be. That being said I believe in eating things you like as well as getting your micro nutrients. As a guy myself in my 40's myself I find it harder eating high sugar foods while losing because of the cravings and "triggers" that it cause for me. If its coming from his trainer then his trainer should have recommended what he wants him to eat - i say that because my trainer is about broscience and not IIFYM. I dont think it had to be one of the other.

but it doesn't matter what his trainer wants him to eat.
His trainer wants him to bulk, or the OP wants to bulk.

So as long as he hits his minimums....then the other calories he needs to be in a surplus can be whatever he likes.

Just for the record that is fried chicken and waffles in my picture. not exactly on the "clean" list.... and no I don't villianize foods either. Seriously i wouldn't be trying to lose 20 pounds at this point if I didn't eat this type of stuff from time to time. I guess as much as I find broscience is all about "clean" foods i also find pro-IIFYM pushing to eat KFC and ice-cream - which you could rarely do and hit your fat macros unless you are on a serious bulk. The reality of IIFYM tends to be a middle of the road solution rather than "clean" or "dirty" ( i use those terms because people know what i mean).

so is ice cream


And no one is saying he eat only that...

I have stated that he hit his minimums first....protein, fats, and fiber

Sweet potato
white rice

To much commentary... These sources here... I would have said white rice... And a clean bulk is doable; instead of eating a cup of rice with your meal, eat 3 cups of rice... Instead of eating 4 oz of chicken, eat 12 oz...or better yet a 12 oz steak...instead of a sweet potato, have two, and add some butter and brown sugar if you want... You don't have to eat junk food all the time; sure its good to have. A treat every now and then is ok, but if you start eating 1000 calorie Oreo sundaes every day, your just going to put on fat.... Overload on the protein eat a ton of carbs pre- workout, and post... Get good fats from nuts, avocados, fatty fish.... A bulk just means eating more, not hover doing it on junk!

Potatoes, rice, pasta, oats, done.