Calories in Calories out Question

I have been going to see a personal trainer and she has been amazing. One of the first things she did was look at my diet and tell me how many calories a day I should have. Now when we actually started to train and I was burning 500 calories a session she told me I was to eat them back. So I have 1600 calories starting out then after I work out I have to consume a total of 2100. I have seen some very different opinions on eating back the calories that you burn. My question is what do you think. Should you eat all the calories you burn or only a portion or none at all? What do you think and why?

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  • JoanaMHill
    JoanaMHill Posts: 265 Member
    A lot of people on here have come to the consensus of eating back about half of the calories you burn. I'd say it's a good amount, accounting for over-estimated burns and underestimated calorie numbers in foods.
  • 970Mikaela1
    970Mikaela1 Posts: 2,013 Member
    i eat every one back
  • Jess__I__Can
    Jess__I__Can Posts: 307 Member
    half for me
  • rachdlew
    rachdlew Posts: 108
    My trainer threatened my life if I did not eat all mine back lol. does eating all the calories back make the progress slower?
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    I only eat a portion back. I like leave some to account for miscalculations in calorie burns and calorie intake.
  • 970Mikaela1
    970Mikaela1 Posts: 2,013 Member
    My trainer threatened my life if I did not eat all mine back lol. does eating all the calories back make the progress slower?
    i think it depends on your goals, and what progress means to you.
  • Water_Gal
    Water_Gal Posts: 52 Member
    On days when I exercise I eat back(or ahead) about half of the calories MFP says I burn. It probably isn't that high anyway and I want to maintain about a 800 cal deficit each day so this seems to work. MFP seems to overestimate the number of cals burned during any workout. If you are following the
    MFP numbers i would suggest eating back no more than 60% of your workout cals to maintain your deficit.
  • rachdlew
    rachdlew Posts: 108
    On days when I exercise I eat back(or ahead) about half of the calories MFP says I burn. It probably isn't that high anyway and I want to maintain about a 800 cal deficit each day so this seems to work. MFP seems to overestimate the number of cals burned during any workout. If you are following the
    MFP numbers i would suggest eating back no more than 60% of your workout cals to maintain your deficit.
    I use a heart rate monitor when I am working out
  • rachdlew
    rachdlew Posts: 108
    My trainer threatened my life if I did not eat all mine back lol. does eating all the calories back make the progress slower?
    i think it depends on your goals, and what progress means to you.
    I am trying not to focus on the numbers on my scale but me size. I am training for the police academy's physical tests and I really want to learn to lift. That is my focus and the weight is coming off with it.
  • 32sami
    32sami Posts: 380 Member
    I started this topic once, got my post shut down lmao
  • rachdlew
    rachdlew Posts: 108
    I started this topic once, got my post shut down lmao
    Why did it get shut down??
  • segovm
    segovm Posts: 512 Member
    Yeah if I was wanting to put on muscle mass I would eat them back and more. Since I am trying to drop some pounds I personally don't eat any of them back unless I am hungry.
  • cavia
    cavia Posts: 457 Member
    I always ate my exercise calories back. My goal was to end each day in a 300-500 calorie deficit and fuel my body adequately to preserve as much muscle mass as possible while dieting. If I burned a 1000 calories on a long run, I ate those 1000 calories back. Faster isn't better when it comes to weight loss. Stick with it and the pounds will add up, just look at my ticker.
  • rachdlew
    rachdlew Posts: 108
    I always ate my exercise calories back. My goal was to end each day in a 300-500 calorie deficit and fuel my body adequately to preserve as much muscle mass as possible while dieting. If I burned a 1000 calories on a long run, I ate those 1000 calories back. Faster isn't better when it comes to weight loss. Stick with it and the pounds will add up, just look at my ticker.
    That is amazing and I needed to hear that thank you for sharing that with me.
  • RllyGudTweetr
    RllyGudTweetr Posts: 2,019 Member
    Assuming your trainer is well-educated in nutrition, she should know the correct number of calories the workout is burning; most recommendations to 'only eat back half' stem from concern that the calories burned in the database used are optimistically high.
  • Sreneesa
    Sreneesa Posts: 1,170 Member
    Assuming your trainer is well-educated in nutrition, she should know the correct number of calories the workout is burning; most recommendations to 'only eat back half' stem from concern that the calories burned in the database used are optimistically high.

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  • hearthwood
    hearthwood Posts: 794 Member
    My trainer threatened my life if I did not eat all mine back lol. does eating all the calories back make the progress slower?

    Sure it would slow your weight loss. If you're eating back all that you're burning, what's the point? We don't have the information your personal trainer has? Are you already on a severe calorie deficit diet? Do you need to lose weight? If you don't need to lose weight and you're just trying to get in shape, that would be one reason why you would eat calories back.
  • 32sami
    32sami Posts: 380 Member
    I started this topic once, got my post shut down lmao
    Why did it get shut down??

    Ummm, it got a little loud. A few people were interested but then a few yahoo's jumped in, next thing you know everybody's fighting. I may have called one guy an a-hole. Anyway, I walked away from it, a few pages later it got shut down. lmao
  • rachdlew
    rachdlew Posts: 108
    My trainer threatened my life if I did not eat all mine back lol. does eating all the calories back make the progress slower?

    Sure it would slow your weight loss. If you're eating back all that you're burning, what's the point? We don't have the information your personal trainer has? Are you already on a severe calorie deficit diet? Do you need to lose weight? If you don't need to lose weight and you're just trying to get in shape, that would be one reason why you would eat calories back.
    I am over weight. I am considered obese.
  • rachdlew
    rachdlew Posts: 108
    I started this topic once, got my post shut down lmao
    Why did it get shut down??

    Ummm, it got a little loud. A few people were interested but then a few yahoo's jumped in, next thing you know everybody's fighting. I may have called one guy an a-hole. Anyway, I walked away from it, a few pages later it got shut down. lmao
    It is amazing how a simple question can make people angry. I hope it doesn't happen here lol.
  • rachdlew
    rachdlew Posts: 108
    My trainer threatened my life if I did not eat all mine back lol. does eating all the calories back make the progress slower?

    Sure it would slow your weight loss. If you're eating back all that you're burning, what's the point? We don't have the information your personal trainer has? Are you already on a severe calorie deficit diet? Do you need to lose weight? If you don't need to lose weight and you're just trying to get in shape, that would be one reason why you would eat calories back.
    I am over weight. I am considered obese.
    When I put my information in MFP it says I should be eating 2250 a day. We started there but it was entirely too much food for me so we went to 1800 and then 1600.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    My trainer threatened my life if I did not eat all mine back lol. does eating all the calories back make the progress slower?

    Sure it would slow your weight loss. If you're eating back all that you're burning, what's the point? We don't have the information your personal trainer has? Are you already on a severe calorie deficit diet? Do you need to lose weight? If you don't need to lose weight and you're just trying to get in shape, that would be one reason why you would eat calories back.


    Ummm...huh?

    By that theory, if she ate 1600 cals, and then worked out and burned 1600 cals, netting ZERO CALS FOR THE DAY, then you don't think the poor girl should eat something? Really?

    Her calorie goal already includes a deficit. If she works out, she is creating an even larger deficit, potentially to the point of being unhealthy since her net calories would dip well below 1200. Eating back exercise calories allows you to maintain a healthy deficit, not an insane one which could damage your health.
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  • segovm
    segovm Posts: 512 Member
    Ummm...huh?

    By that theory, if she ate 1600 cals, and then worked out and burned 1600 cals, netting ZERO CALS FOR THE DAY, then you don't think the poor girl should eat something? Really?

    Her calorie goal already includes a deficit. If she works out, she is creating an even larger deficit, potentially to the point of being unhealthy since her net calories would dip well below 1200. Eating back exercise calories allows you to maintain a healthy deficit, not an insane one which could damage your health.
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    Not to argue but I'm curious if there really is any actual "science" behind the idea that eating 0 net calories is the same as eating nothing at all?

    Most days I end up at a negative number for my caloric intake but I eat between 1700-1900 calories and I feel like I am far from starving, I just spend a few hours a day on my bike and feel great.

    I've always suspected that someone here just equated net calories with actual calories despite the fact that there really isn't much science to say eating well and exercising a lot is bad for you if you burn more calories than you eat. Seems like as long as I am physically active and feel great there really isn't much of a reason to shove an extra pound or two of bacon inside of me to help me lose weight.
  • badbradley
    badbradley Posts: 38 Member
    I only eat a portion back. I like leave some to account for miscalculations in calorie burns and calorie intake.

    This.
  • myfitnesspale3
    myfitnesspale3 Posts: 276 Member
    I only eat a portion back. I like leave some to account for miscalculations in calorie burns and calorie intake.

    Yup - even with a heart rate monitor, it seems hard to pin down what the real burn is.
  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
    I do not eat my exercise expenditure, because I want this expenditure to help with weight loss effort My theory is if you are obese, you should not be eating your exercise effort. I like to eat unprocessed foods that include protein, vegetables and Fat. When I have a urge for sweets, I will add fruit.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    Not to argue but I'm curious if there really is any actual "science" behind the idea that eating 0 net calories is the same as eating nothing at all?

    Most days I end up at a negative number for my caloric intake but I eat between 1700-1900 calories and I feel like I am far from starving, I just spend a few hours a day on my bike and feel great.

    I've always suspected that someone here just equated net calories with actual calories despite the fact that there really isn't much science to say eating well and exercising a lot is bad for you if you burn more calories than you eat. Seems like as long as I am physically active and feel great there really isn't much of a reason to shove an extra pound or two of bacon inside of me to help me lose weight.
    I agree. I read most of the diet books that come down the pike (and they're not 'fads', they have more authority and recognition than MFP, by and large) and have never run across the term 'net calories' or the need to 'eat back' in any of them.

    I guess WW is the closest I've seen, with its Activity Points concept which (1) maxes at half your exercise burn and (2) is entirely optional to eat or not. So not really the same at all.
  • PinkyFett
    PinkyFett Posts: 842 Member
    I don't know. I don't eat all mine back. I either eat none to half back. I have been staying under 1500 for a week or more, except today, and I didn't lose or gain anything at all. So, I don't think it's always as simple as calories in vs calories out. It's all a matter of trial and error and finding what works for you.
  • rachdlew
    rachdlew Posts: 108
    From what I understand I am already at a deficit I am suppose to be at 2300 calories but I am only eating 1600. From what I have gathered from my trainer eating back those exercise calories will help me to build and maintain the muscle I am working so hard to get.