Are you REALLY rating at TDEE?!

OK, seriously people, who is really eating accordingly to TDEE minus whatever your percentage and losing the ''expected'' weight?
My TDEE right now is 2650 cal\day, which gives me 2150 per day to lose one pound per week... Seems quite high and I want to believe it because... Well, I love to eat!! But I want to ear about it from you guys!!! Doubting I can lose at this amount.... (Yes, my calculations are correct)

** oops, '' eating'', not ''rating'' (title)

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  • editorgrrl
    editorgrrl Posts: 7,060 Member
    Your calculations are just an estimate. The only way to prove or disprove the accuracy is trial & error. Eat 2,150 calories for several weeks, then reevaluate.

    The Sexypants post should be required reading for all MFPers: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-Sexypants
  • Saramelie
    Saramelie Posts: 308 Member
    Well, you lost a lot... Are you doing it by TDEE?
  • shortstuff31117
    shortstuff31117 Posts: 81 Member
    I am! My TDEE is right around 2400 and I eat 1900, sometimes a bit more, and I'm losing around 1 lb a week. I agree with the above poster, try it for a few weeks and see what happens. Then adjust as needed.
  • editorgrrl
    editorgrrl Posts: 7,060 Member
    I use the MFP defaults, and follow the advice in the Sexypants post.
  • Saramelie
    Saramelie Posts: 308 Member
    OK☺
  • editorgrrl
    editorgrrl Posts: 7,060 Member
    I have two activity trackers (Jawbone UP24 & Fitbit Flex) that show me my TDEE—way more accurately than any online calculator. I connected my accounts, and MFP adjusts my calorie goal every day to TDEE minus my deficit. (In my case, 250 calories for .5 lb. per week).
  • Phrick
    Phrick Posts: 2,765 Member
    I was eating at calculated TDEE and losing way too fast! My own tracking has revealed a much higher TDEE than the calculators give me. So I happily eat 2125 calories a day (ish) and am losing now around .75 to 1 pound a week. I'm actually upping my cals slowly as I get closer to goal. FTR I'm a 36-yo female, 5'8" tall.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    I'm eating at TDEE - 20% and steadily losing weight. Your TDEE calculation seems high, which equation did you use to calculate it?
  • projhex
    projhex Posts: 23
    The TDEE calculator on MFP isn't great.

    Use the one on the IIFYM site and list yourself as sedentary and you'll get a much more accurate calorie level.

    I lost almost exactly one pound a week, recalculating my TDEE every 5 pounds lost for 20 pounds over 20 weeks.
  • I eat about 2500 calories a day which is my TDEE - 20% and have been losing just under 2 lbs a week. I use:

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
  • sarafischbach9
    sarafischbach9 Posts: 466 Member
    For me, I think eating at TDEE can be hard, because I know mine varies from day to day. I am a runner, and I know that my TDEE is high ( like 2500-2600 ) on days I do my long distances, 2000-2200 on moderate distances, and around 1900 with shorter distances. On "rest" days my TDEE can vary from 1700-1900. There isn't a real way to know, because I feel that most people's change from day to day depending on activity level. So maybe consider an average?

    I didn't lose my weight by using TDEE. It was just eating at a deficit. I used MFP way and I ate back some of my exercise calories. I'm trying to maintain now, but I am trying to do it TDEE way. So I'm trying to think of a good average range to eat everyday that would be good for all my activity levels. It has to be enough to fuel my long runs, though, but also enough where everything balances out by the end of the week. I mean this because I will be "over" on rest days, but under on long run days.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    For me, I think eating at TDEE can be hard, because I know mine varies from day to day. I am a runner, and I know that my TDEE is high ( like 2500-2600 ) on days I do my long distances, 2000-2200 on moderate distances, and around 1900 with shorter distances. On "rest" days my TDEE can vary from 1700-1900. There isn't a real way to know, because I feel that most people's change from day to day depending on activity level. So maybe consider an average?

    I didn't lose my weight by using TDEE. It was just eating at a deficit. I used MFP way and I ate back some of my exercise calories. I'm trying to maintain now, but I am trying to do it TDEE way. So I'm trying to think of a good average range to eat everyday that would be good for all my activity levels. It has to be enough to fuel my long runs, though, but also enough where everything balances out by the end of the week. I mean this because I will be "over" on rest days, but under on long run days.

    That's the whole point of TDEE, you factor your WEEKLY exercise and activity into the calculation and that's averaged out across the whole week so you eat the same calorie intake every day regardless of activity. Weekly calorie intake is more important than any day to day calorie intake, it's all about the long term.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    Here's the deal with TDEE. In a perfect world, if you knew exactly what your TDEE was and your calorie calculations were 100% accurate and things like water retention didn't exist, you would lose exactly what you were supposed to over the long term. Unfortunately in the real world none of this is true. At best, even if you wear a calorie tracking device, your TDEE is an estimation with a decent margin of error. If you simply used an equation, it will be an estimation with a greater margin of error. Also know your TDEE is an every changing number. It goes down when you lose weight. If goes up when you are more active. You will never count calories 100% accurately. No one does. Some do a much better job than others but no one is perfect. Even if you weigh every morsel of food to the gram, the FDA still allows for rounding and discrepancies on nutritional information. Then there is water retention to consider. It's rare that in the short run you will lose weight at the rate you should on paper. The key is to be as consistent as possible with your calorie counting and workouts. This allows you to see trends in weight over time. If your goal is to lose weight then you should see a downward trend over time. If you don't see this trend or it is not fast enough for your preference you need to eat less, move more, or both (or reassess your expectations).

    All that being said, throughout the many years of tracking calories, and a lot of trial and error, I have a pretty fair idea of my TDEE. I am also fairly accurate with my calorie counting. I tend to lose weight at about the speed I should be on paper. It does not show up on a week to week basis however. Water retention will prevent that from ever happening. If I compare month to month I usually lose about what I expect to. Again, if at any point I do not, it goes back to eat less, move more, or both.
  • Leighsters
    Leighsters Posts: 33 Member
    Here's the deal with TDEE. In a perfect world, if you knew exactly what your TDEE was and your calorie calculations were 100% accurate and things like water retention didn't exist, you would lose exactly what you were supposed to over the long term. Unfortunately in the real world none of this is true. At best, even if you wear a calorie tracking device, your TDEE is an estimation with a decent margin of error. If you simply used an equation, it will be an estimation with a greater margin of error. Also know your TDEE is an every changing number. It goes down when you lose weight. If goes up when you are more active. You will never count calories 100% accurately. No one does. Some do a much better job than others but no one is perfect. Even if you weigh every morsel of food to the gram, the FDA still allows for rounding and discrepancies on nutritional information. Then there is water retention to consider. It's rare that in the short run you will lose weight at the rate you should on paper. The key is to be as consistent as possible with your calorie counting and workouts. This allows you to see trends in weight over time. If your goal is to lose weight then you should see a downward trend over time. If you don't see this trend or it is not fast enough for your preference you need to eat less, move more, or both (or reassess your expectations).

    All that being said, throughout the many years of tracking calories, and a lot of trial and error, I have a pretty fair idea of my TDEE. I am also fairly accurate with my calorie counting. I tend to lose weight at about the speed I should be on paper. It does not show up on a week to week basis however. Water retention will prevent that from ever happening. If I compare month to month I usually lose about what I expect to. Again, if at any point I do not, it goes back to eat less, move more, or both.



    All true! Listen to this guy^
  • DreamOfSunshine
    DreamOfSunshine Posts: 911 Member
    <--- Eating at TDEE minus 20%-25% and for me it worked ( and it's still working ) Good luck! :flowerforyou:
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Here's the deal with TDEE. In a perfect world, if you knew exactly what your TDEE was and your calorie calculations were 100% accurate and things like water retention didn't exist, you would lose exactly what you were supposed to over the long term. Unfortunately in the real world none of this is true. At best, even if you wear a calorie tracking device, your TDEE is an estimation with a decent margin of error. If you simply used an equation, it will be an estimation with a greater margin of error. Also know your TDEE is an every changing number. It goes down when you lose weight. If goes up when you are more active. You will never count calories 100% accurately. No one does. Some do a much better job than others but no one is perfect. Even if you weigh every morsel of food to the gram, the FDA still allows for rounding and discrepancies on nutritional information. Then there is water retention to consider. It's rare that in the short run you will lose weight at the rate you should on paper. The key is to be as consistent as possible with your calorie counting and workouts. This allows you to see trends in weight over time. If your goal is to lose weight then you should see a downward trend over time. If you don't see this trend or it is not fast enough for your preference you need to eat less, move more, or both (or reassess your expectations).

    All that being said, throughout the many years of tracking calories, and a lot of trial and error, I have a pretty fair idea of my TDEE. I am also fairly accurate with my calorie counting. I tend to lose weight at about the speed I should be on paper. It does not show up on a week to week basis however. Water retention will prevent that from ever happening. If I compare month to month I usually lose about what I expect to. Again, if at any point I do not, it goes back to eat less, move more, or both.

    Well said.

    I use a fitbit flex and it estimates my TDEE at 2800 (over the last 8 weeks). I believe it underestimates my resistance training and actual TDEE according to maths (TDEE - cal intake over time) is closer to 3400 or so. As I average 2700-2800 over this time, expected weight loss has occurred.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    OK, seriously people, who is really eating accordingly to TDEE minus whatever your percentage and losing the ''expected'' weight?
    My TDEE right now is 2650 cal\day, which gives me 2150 per day to lose one pound per week... Seems quite high and I want to believe it because... Well, I love to eat!! But I want to ear about it from you guys!!! Doubting I can lose at this amount.... (Yes, my calculations are correct)

    ** oops, '' eating'', not ''rating'' (title)

    It's a good opportunity to find out your own numbers. Weigh every day and average at the end of the week. Plot it against your calorie intake. Be patient, sometimes it can take 4-6 weeks to actually line up to what you're expecting, especially if you start upping or changing your workouts, tom etc.

    I found out that I'm about 1750-1800 per day without exercise. I'm 43 5'7" and 127lb. I come out on the scooby calculator at somewhere between sedentary and lightly active (without my exercise cals). That's because of having no car, an active 9 year old, being slightly manic, no sofa or tv and probably extra burns from weight training repairs. Jeez! Looking at that you'd think I'd need 5000 cals a day! Life is cruel!
  • Saramelie
    Saramelie Posts: 308 Member
    I'm eating at TDEE - 20% and steadily losing weight. Your TDEE calculation seems high, which equation did you use to calculate it?

    I use Scooby

    211 pounds, 5'4, female, 33 yo

    moderate activities 3 to 5 hours per week.

    Gives me a TDEE of 2650 for now, so substracting 500 per day to lose 1 pound per week = 2150.
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    All that being said, throughout the many years of tracking calories, and a lot of trial and error, I have a pretty fair idea of my TDEE.

    And what an inspiration you are! 120 lbs lost and look at the muscle gained. LISTEN TO THIS MAN!
  • Branstin
    Branstin Posts: 2,320 Member
    I use MFP but the difference in calories between my MFP (goal + exercise) and TDEE are 16 calories. I am losing and I agree with the trial and error process.