P90

Maybe under "circuit training, general". Since you are doing a bunch of different exercises one after another.

I just did the first workout! And I agree, it's easy to follow but I still feel like I worked out (especially because I have no upper arm strength, so I REALLY feel that). I was thinking about plugging in the workout at calisthenics or circuit training. Both of them (calisthenics, vigorous) say I burned 217 calories in 30mins. I'm a little skeptical, but I'll take it.

I'm still confused about if this is the same as the P90X, but I actually just created an entry for it that you can use. I wear a HRM, so I used that for calories. Try searching under "P90X Day 1, Chest & Back, Ab Ripper X" that's what I added to the database

Timing wise, P90 Master Series came out after P90X BTW...

Haven't we already had this discussion Andre? lol. I was speaking in terms of intensity

Honestly, it's a toss up between the X and the MS for me. The P90X dvd's are about an hour each, and focus more intensely on a body part... one is legs & back, one is back & biceps, another is chest, shoulders & triceps, there's core synergistics focusing entirely on the midsection (not abs specifically) and yoga is 93 minutes (ugh), etc. Certainly worked up a great sweat with these. But, I started here, so I spent the first 2-3 weeks by crying at the end of each workout and collapsing into a heap on the floor. Pretty. After several rounds of P90X, and eating per the diet guide (which was too many calories for a 42 yr old female) I plateaued with P90X and felt I needed more cardio to work off the next batch of goo from my midsection.

P90 Master series are only 6 dvds, 40-50 minutes in duration, but each video incorporates a bit more cardio. For example, Sculpt 5-6 uses free weights & your own body weight for resistance, but at a stepped up pace. So shorter duration, but I'm more "out of breath" after Sculpt 5-6 than I was with say, Chest, Shoulders & Triceps.

I just completed P90MS Standard , and I did P90MS Lean over the summer (added ab ripper 200 to these as well)..... From here, the plan is to combine both programs and be able to use these, along with my treadmill, for quite some time....

I hope this helps....! :happy:

I think I do. At least, I would have started with P90MS rather than the X, because now I know there's a progression from one to the other. I can see more definition in my arms, shoulders & back. I sometimes add a 2nd workout, a 3 mile run/walk on a treadmill, 2 or 3 times per week (the benefit (?) of being unemployed....)

Also, I learned alot from reading the beach body msg boards too. They clearly state that P90X isn't a weight loss program per se. Let me be clear, you will lose weight, as did I, because it's more exercise than I've ever done, combined with the change in diet, and it just shocks your system. However, for me (and before anyone jumps on my case, this is just my experience......) over the longer term, I gained weight. I think I mentioned, I'm early 40's, but I'm starting to deal with female issues :frown: . So, the P90X diet is too many calories for me as I'm starting to get older, and my mistake was not calculating any caloric deficit, which from what I've read on the beach body boards, may be necessary for women to lose weight. But EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. Again, just my story, my experience. (By the way, I am not and never will be a petite little thing. I'm 5' 6", 150, size 8, lost 15 since July, and goal of another 5-10 pounds.)

So switching to P90MS was just what I needed. One man's boring is another woman's saving grace. And you have to find whatever it is that works for you, whatever it is that will get you working out consistently. This is working for me. I may switch back to P90X after another round of MS.... we'll see.....


So here's the response from beachbody msg boards:

The P90 Master series tend to be shorter than the P90X workouts (38-60 min.), lesser intensity than P90X (but still intensive, what you put into each workout will make it challenging or not, there's a low impact modifier & the other often demonstrates more advanced modifications along w/ the standard exercises ) offer much variety (many exercises are from P90X, so they'll be familiar to you & Dreya is a background exerciser in a few of these) and most workouts follow a similar format of rounds, so you can skip rounds or exercises to shorten a workout (chaptered nicely by exercise). I like that the resistance workouts are total body, not isolated muscle groups like P90X, and that there is a bodyweight & weighted resistance workout.

All I can say is to avoid the Sportline wristwatch model (no chest strap). I got it on clearance and it does a very poor job. It doesn't read HR very well and its calorie count is WAY off. It also sometimes resets in the middle of a workout. I hear a lot of people use Polar HRM's. Others swear by the Bodybugg.