stop eating back burned calories?

Not having much success with weight loss. Has anyone found success with NOT eating back their burned calories?

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  • thavoice
    thavoice Posts: 1,326 Member
    Not having much success with weight loss. Has anyone found success with NOT eating back their burned calories?
    I never do for the simple fact that it is very difficult to accurately know how many calories you burned. It is all estimated and if you overestimate your burn and eat some, half, most, all of them back then you could be doing it for naught.

    Personally burned calories from exercise or hard work are just bonus from eating at a deficit.
  • Branstin
    Branstin Posts: 2,320 Member
    You could lose weight by not eating back the exercise calories but the key is to provide your body with the required amount of nutrients for good health and have enough energy to properly fuel your workouts. Not eating enough over a long period of time could affect your metabolism in a negative way.

    What specific issues are you having with weight loss?
  • AmyRhubarb
    AmyRhubarb Posts: 6,890 Member
    Rather than not eating them back at all, which can really leave you under-fueled considering that your original daily goal already has you at a deficit, and burning off more through exercise leaves you with a HUGE deficit - maybe cut back to only eating a portion of them back. MFP is notorious for overestimating calorie burns, so a lot of people choose to err on the side of caution and only eat 50-75% of the burned cals back, and have good success doing so.

    Other than that - looking through your diary I see several days where you're well over your goal, which is likely the problem. And I wouldn't log things like cleaning - unless you're hanging wallpaper or moving all your furniture or something out of the ordinary like that, things like housework and your job are regular activities which should be accounted for in your activity level, and already factored into your daily goal. Logging them as exercise and then eating back the cals takes you out of your deficit.

    Do your best to log as accurately as possible, weighing and measuring foods (get a food scale if you don't have one, they don't cost much), and consider investing in a decent heart rate monitor (Polar is a very popular choice) with a chest strap to more accurately gauge calorie burns.

    Good luck!
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    If you aren't losing weight, you aren't in a deficit. (possible logging errors from estimating portions) So if you aren't willing to do what it takes to make sure you're actually consuming the calories you should be, maybe stop eating them back, or only eat back half.


    ETA: Agreed with the poster above me. I also looked at your entries. If you're eating back over 200 calories you think you burned from cutting the grass with a riding lawnmower, and a few hundred more for cooking....this could very well be a big part of your problem. Those are regular every day activities, not exercise.
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
    AmyRhubarb is wise!
  • sheedy17
    sheedy17 Posts: 128
    I never eat back my calories, I drink 10-14 cups of water a day, and I try to eat about 2000 calories a day and I have 3-4 scoops of protein per day. I hit all my stats and percentages and am down 65 pounds.
  • Veil5577
    Veil5577 Posts: 868 Member
    Since MFP doesn't accurately track calorie burn, I don't eat mine back at all.
  • ksy1969
    ksy1969 Posts: 700 Member
    Agree with the others above and will add this. I took a look at your diary and it is obvious why you are not losing. Not only are you adding in exercise calories that you really haven't earned, but it looks like you might be way over estimating your burns.

    Disregard those people suggesting you not eat your exercise calories back. As others have said, your daily calories are already factoring in a healthy weight loss deficit. You need to fuel your workouts. I would highly suggest you get a HRM (Heart Rate Monitor) for your workouts. Kickboxing can create a really good burn, but the only accurate way to track it is with a HRM.

    Another option is follow TDEE and then you don't even worry about your workouts. Read the post and the links in the post below. They should really help.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
  • kateauch
    kateauch Posts: 195 Member
    I went through this too little/too much imbalance after I'd been on MFP for a few months and read a couple posts about starvation mode, exercise cals, etc. I logged my exercise and ate back the majority of the calories of my "estimated burn." I plateaued for many months. It did NOT work for me.

    It took me almost four months to finally wake up and say "this is not giving me the results I want to see." So I adjusted things in my settings to start putting me at a more structured deficit. I plugged in my estimated work out time, set my activity level at sedentary (I have a desk job) and MFP put me at 1800 cals/day to lose 1.5lbs a week. I'm 5'11", 24 yo.

    I'll be honest, bumping up my daily caloric intake in general was helpful since it helped me not to feel like I was starving and also gave me the energy to do what I do on a daily basis. Yes, I frequently go over my limits by about 200/300 calories which has slowed my progress, however it is PROGRESS so for me personally, I've been happy with it.

    It's all about finding what works for you. From this post, it sounds like the current system is not working. Yes, you should eat enough calories to fuel your body and I certainly don't recommend eating anything less than 1200 a day however it is not necessary to eat back your exercise calories (unless you might be seriously lifting/bulking). You won't enter starvation mode. You might lose some muscle tone but you're not going to wind up a bag of bones. Regardless- one solution does not fit all, especially for weight loss.

    ETA: Just checked out your diary. I know it feels awesome to think you have all these cals left at the end of the day but I would definitely try to refrain from eating half a pie as your "reward." You're only hurting yourself there. Moderation is key to those treats! (This is coming from someone who eats chocolate every day and is still losing weight.)


    TL;DR: You do you, boo. Just make sure you're accurate in your measurements and if the current system is not working, try something else.
  • UmmSqueaky
    UmmSqueaky Posts: 715 Member
    What are you doing that is giving you such high exercise burns? I have over a thousand calories burned several days a week, but then I bike 30 miles, walk on my lunch and go to the gym on those days, so I'm exercising for 4+ hours.

    Also, 8 cookies, not once but for several days? I'm all for eating what you want so long as you fit your calories, but 8 cookies?

    My thought - MFP is overestimating your calories burned by exercise. Eat back half your exercise calories. And cut down on the cookies. If you want to have them every day, fine, but probably not 8 cookies a day, several days in a row.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    I took a peak at your diary as well. Read through the sexypants link. I also suspect that you are overestimating calories burned in exercise (perhaps try eating about half of them for a while and see if that makes a difference). Also, if you don't have one, I highly recommend a kitchen scale to weigh out all of your solid foods. Particularly items such as macaroni salad (I can't remember if it was macaroni or potato), these things are really calorie dense which means if you are off by a fraction, it will wipe out your calorie deficit pretty fast.

    I also recommend looking around in the forums for people who are helpful, and send them a friend request. It is nice to send them a note along with the request. Take a peak at their diaries. It's helpful to have support along the way. You can do it! You just need to figure out the right amount for you. :flowerforyou:
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    You have earned 1,384 calories from exercise today

    Unless you ran a half-marathon that day I think your problem might be vastly overestimating your caloric burn from exercise.

    As a 6' tall man I generally estimate an hour of heart-pounding-from-my-chest cardio to be 600 and some form of resistance training to be about 250. That is a full hour of elevated heartrate which means that I would estimate 600 cal burned for an exercise session of like 75 minutes that included a warm-up and cool-down.

    To log that I burned 1384 calories for me I think I would have to run probably 14 miles.
  • junejadesky
    junejadesky Posts: 524 Member
    I never eat mine back. In fact, I do not even log it here on MFP. I set my own goals because I am eating between 1500-1800 per day and working out 6 days per week (kickboxing cardio and resistance band strength training rotating every other day).

    I eat 40% of my cals from carbs, 30% from fat and protein respectively....
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    With the amount of exercise cals the calculator is coming up with I would say they are way overestimated (830 cals for 60 mins running at 6mph is quite high, most likely is 550-650) I would suggest just eating half back.
  • tibby531
    tibby531 Posts: 717 Member
    TL;DR: You do you, boo.

    :laugh: I needed that. thank you.
  • WandaWoman41
    WandaWoman41 Posts: 153 Member
    This is a good thread. Alot of times calorie burns are overestimated to compete with fellow MFP posts. Additionally, some of us don't log EVERYTHING (guilty).
  • levicrouch
    levicrouch Posts: 99
    Whether or not you 'should' eat back your exercise calories depends on your calorie strategy. If you do TDEE you should not eat back your calories, if you do a net calorie approach (MFP default) you should eat back you exercise calories.

    I found this list to work well for me:

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  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    Not having much success with weight loss. Has anyone found success with NOT eating back their burned calories?
    I never do for the simple fact that it is very difficult to accurately know how many calories you burned. It is all estimated and if you overestimate your burn and eat some, half, most, all of them back then you could be doing it for naught.

    Personally burned calories from exercise or hard work are just bonus from eating at a deficit.

    I don't log my work outs, but eat at maintenance (or strive to) level. I figure my work outs will create enough of a deficit to keep my size moving in the right direction. :drinker:
  • biscuit71
    biscuit71 Posts: 43 Member
    I don't ever rely on MFP for calories burned. I think it overestimates, which will set you up for failure. I use what the machine tells me I burned. If I walk the dog at night, I still use what the treadmill I use everyday would have calculated. For example, I walk the treadmill some days for 60 minutes. I know that I normally burn 100 cals for every 15 minutes so if I walk a similar pace at home for 60 minutes, then I log approximately 400 calories burned. Who knows if that's exact, but it is closer than what MFP tells me I burned just by putting in my minutes.

    I agree that you shouldn't log your everyday activities as exercise because I believe that it already taken into account when you set up your weight loss goal. I do, however, log in yard work, mowing grass, etc that I do once a week. That is considered exercise since it's not an "everyday" activity. Swimming is good to but it doesn't burn that many calories (that I'm aware of) but it is good exercise.

    I eat back some just to make sure I NET 1200 calories in a day. That is the minimum that your body needs just for it's normal functions. If you are eating less than that, eventually your body will not lose weight because it wants to hold on to the extra fat for energy. It's called "starvation mode"
  • DR2501
    DR2501 Posts: 661 Member
    I don't eat back all of mine and its working for me. My philosphy is that I literally busted a55 to burn them off, so why would I want them back? :laugh:
  • bajoyba
    bajoyba Posts: 1,153 Member
    I agree that you are most likely overestimating your calorie burns from exercise. What exercises are you doing, and for how long?

    I'd have a hard time burning more than 500 calories in an hour of non-stop circuit training. A burn of closer to 1400 calories in a day seems like a lot to me. I actually had a stall in my weight loss last August because I was doing a lot of bike riding, and MFP was way too generous in calculating my calorie burns for that activity. I think it gave me upwards of 600 calories for an hour of biking, and although it was a good workout with a fair amount of hills, there was also a lot of down time, and I simply wasn't burning that much. For awhile, I ate back all of those calories, but the scale didn't budge. Once I figured out that I probably wasn't burning as many calories as I thought I was and started eating just a portion of those calories back, things started moving again.

    You may benefit from reading the sexypants link, calculating your TDEE, and including regular exercise as part of your normal daily activity rather than eating those exercise calories back as you burn them.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    Whether or not you 'should' eat back your exercise calories depends on your calorie strategy. If you do TDEE you should not eat back your calories, if you do a net calorie approach (MFP default) you should eat back you exercise calories.

    I found this list to work well for me:

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    Huh, cool way to break it down but call me skeptical. Also pretty hard to estimate intensity in a way.

    The most cardio-intense workout I do is a plyometrics workout. It is 58 minutes long but includes about 10 min of warm-up and cool down. My HRM says I burn 950 cals during it but I sincerly doubt that as well so I usually log it as 600 calories.

    If I just take the ~45 where my heart rate is way high (intense) then that chart has me burning about 900 which...I admit...is close to what my HRM says.

    Perhaps I am underestimating then and am in the eat 50% of your burn back group but man, hard to believe I could burn close to 1000 calories in 1 hour.
  • aliakynes
    aliakynes Posts: 352 Member
    I'm all for kickboxing, but 45 minutes will not burn 629 calories when you only have 18 lbs to lose. Hubby can burn that much running for 45 minutes but he weighs 220 lbs and is a man.

    Wherever you're getting your burn numbers, it's very inflated as suggested above. So I think TDEE will be a better fit for you.

    Add up the exercise hours of your average week and enter your stats here: http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    Then set your calorie goal to that number and eat that much every day (no adding exercise calories as they already estimated it for you). That's it, attempt to meet your exercise goal each week. As long as you stay in the range you should start losing.

    I would also recommend a kitchen scale to make sure your food logging is accurate.
  • DerekVTX
    DerekVTX Posts: 287 Member
    I ensure accurate logging and do try to eat back my cardio calories burned. I do not log my weight training though (Upper Body one day, Core the next day.....and cardio everyday. The math seems to work for me and with a 7000 calorie deficit each week I have been consistantly losing 2lbs per week. for the past 17 weeks.
  • rileyleigh
    rileyleigh Posts: 106 Member
    I tend to assume that my food diary is not 100% accurate, even though I do weigh everything. In that assumption, i also assume that any calories burned during exercise should cancel out any underestimates of food calorie I eat. So i log my exercise, but i don't eat back my calories. Everything then balances out in the end that way.

    That being said, if i go over my calorie goal but stay under my calorie goal + exercise calories burn, i don't really feel guilty about that either. Its really just about paying attention to what your body is telling you based on your results.
  • 4daluvof_candice
    4daluvof_candice Posts: 483 Member
    I try to log FOOD as accurately as possible becasue my over consumption of FOOD has made me obese not working out. :blushing:

    I use a HRM majority of the time to log workout burns(which is still an estimate). I try to at least leave 200-300 calories(burned) left for overestimates and have lost so... but there are days where I may have burned more than I thought or ate less than I logged becasue my body tells me with that HUNGRY :grumble: feeling.