Fad dieting to kick start weight loss
mummyjonno
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So today I went to the doctor's, I wanted to get my thyroid checked as I am still struggling to loose any weight even though I am doing all the right things.
she explained to me that it may be wise to do something like the atkins diet in order to kick start my weight loss?
I have been working out for a while, I typically do an hour of walking inclines everyday (I'm a big girl at 220lbs and it's easier on my asthma than running) I also do a kettlebell routine of a night. I haven't plateaued as I've lost nothing to begin with,
She suggested this as a medical professional. Has anyone used this method to kick start themselves? If so which one did you do and did you have any success
Thanks in advance
she explained to me that it may be wise to do something like the atkins diet in order to kick start my weight loss?
I have been working out for a while, I typically do an hour of walking inclines everyday (I'm a big girl at 220lbs and it's easier on my asthma than running) I also do a kettlebell routine of a night. I haven't plateaued as I've lost nothing to begin with,
She suggested this as a medical professional. Has anyone used this method to kick start themselves? If so which one did you do and did you have any success
Thanks in advance
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I used the cambridge diet plan0
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Healthy calorie deficit
Weighing/measuring/logging all your food
Exercise you enjoy - so you will do it consistently
Making the 3 things above become habits
Patience
Patience
Patience0 -
As to see a dietitian. Doctors have minimal nutritional training.
Also check this link out
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1175494-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants?hl=guide+to+sexypants&page=1#posts-183615940 -
Unfortunately with my body patience doesn't seem to be doing a whole lot. I am actually doing the rest though0
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My Awesome sister has successfully maintained a 70 pound weight loss for the past four years. She kicked off with one of those books that told you to eat XYZ in week one, then ABC in week two, etc. I think it was like the four day diet, or the two week diet, or the 17 day diet.. something like that. When she first started she needed the structure and restrictions. She stayed with it for only a few months before transitioning to something more sensible and sustainable but it was enough to help her become aware of her eating and fully dedicate herself to her weight loss and fitness journey.0
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Healthy calorie deficit
Weighing/measuring/logging all your food
Exercise you enjoy - so you will do it consistently
Making the 3 things above become habits
Patience
Patience
Patience
I agree wholeheartedly with this, but I did start out with an Atkins type low carb diet for a couple months and it does work. Just be careful not to OD on carbs when you do come off0 -
The Atkins diet is a ketogenic diet and ketogenic diets are based on sound scientific research. Low carb diest don't work for everyone. Some people have horrible side effects. Many people flourish too. If you can mentally handle the dietary restrictions, give it a try.
Id suggest reading Lyle McDionald's book The Ketogenic Diet
ETA:
Bunching ketogenic diets along with master cleanse, juice cleanses and other stuff, is simply a poor grouping. They are not similar at all.0 -
Unfortunately with my body patience doesn't seem to be doing a whole lot. I am actually doing the rest though
So you've been eating at a calorie deficit for 7 months and haven't lost any weight? Outside of underlying health issues (which your doctor would have checked for, I hope) that means you are not in a calorie deficit.
Although we can log food, log exercise, and think we are doing everything right, if something is off in your calculations or recording - your body still keeps the ultimate record. Listen to it.0 -
Unfortunately with my body patience doesn't seem to be doing a whole lot. I am actually doing the rest though
To answer your question - no I don't believe in kickstarts (except for my 1977 Yamaha motorbike!).
I was fat for 20 years but when I properly started tracking my calories in and out I lost weight. Slowly and steadily and with a view to what was going to be sustainable after I got to my goal weight.
The way to start is is the way you intend to continue IMHO.0 -
I'm currently eating 1700 a day and burning anything from 500-700 a day working out (I use a HRM to determine that)
The doctor has booked me in for my thyroid checking on Monday, the last time I had it done was in 2010 but it came back clear.0 -
That's what I am trying to do, I am eating as clean as I can, I have kicked out any carbonated drinks and replaced with water - so I know that is right and how I mean to go on although that doesn't seem to be doing anything. I've not lost 1lb in months. I am literally the exact same weight as when I began.
In case it matters I am a 5ft female and I'm 220lbs right now. my calorie intake on here is 1700 and I am meeting that target and eating some of my work out calories back as instructed.0 -
So maybe you've got some thyroid issues. If not, you're overestimating your calorie burns or underestimating what you are eating. Play around with your numbers some. Tighten up on your weighing and measuring.
7 months is a long time to go with no loss. You are obviously eating at maintenance. Consider that your HRM may not be as accurate as you think - sometimes they are not. Drop your cals to 1500 or 1600 for a couple of weeks and see what happens.0 -
Unfortunately the least likely cause is that you are a medical marvel and can't lose weight.
The most likely cause is that you have been eating at maintenance for reasons that gypsyrunner gives.
Two options are:
1/ Don't change anything in your food / exercise logging routines but take 250 cals a day off your goal. That "should" give you half a pound a week loss so you would have to stick with it for a number of weeks to even out any bumps and dips caused by normal weight fluctuations.
2/ Make a fresh start. Weigh and measure absolutely everything you eat or drink. Try to calibrate your HRM as although 500 - 700 average exercise burns are possible that's a really serious amount of strenuous exercise (ten hours per week perhaps). HRMs aren't always accurate, just having a higher than average heart rate will throw it out.
Knowing your maintenance level is actually very useful so don't despair!0 -
I agree with everyone here. Barring medical issues, calorie deficit should do it for you. I say this because:
I was once about 220, and I'm 5'4", so pretty much exactly you right now. I cut my calories to 1600 a day religiously, and started walking at least a half hour a day. I lost weight. Barring something medical, you should, too. Track/log food carefully. Make sure you're finding the right thing in the MFP database to reflect what you've eaten. Weigh your food. I can't stress enough how important that is.0 -
I have tried many of those fad diets (Atkins, South Beach, 17 day, Hormone Balance, etc, etc) and loved them AT FIRST because you lose a lot of weight in the first few weeks. The problem is that they are impossible to sustain, because they require a lot of shopping, prepping etc and also require cutting many thing out of your diet. When I stopped using those diets I gained back all the weight I lost, plus a few extra. I used to think that I couldn't lose weight by just eating "normally", but I've found that by being REALLY honest with the MFP food journal and making sure there is a deficit each day, I am losing weight. And I'm doing this by eating all the foods my family is eating, but mindfully and in moderation. Hopefully you will find what works for you too, but don't pin too much hope on any of those "diets".0
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Why? Just eat less. You're mentioning exercise but not your diet.0
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Do you have any symptoms of a hormonal imbalance?
I'm not a fan of the Atkins diet, since everyone I know personally has regained the weight. But, for hormone issues, I'd definitely recommend decreasing your percentage of carbs (as in cut them in half) and increasing your good fat and protein for a while. That will give your body an opportunity to try to balance itself out, especially if you're already eating a clean diet.
I also found that my workouts need to be fairly intense (for me that meant a good sweat for 20-30 minutes). If you don't have a good heart rate monitor, then you might think about getting one, since MFP calculations can be pretty far off from the real thing.
Hopefully, that will give you a start. Oh, and I found that sometimes I have to increase my net calories as my metabolism improves in order to continue to lose weight.
Once you start losing and feeling better, then you can slowly add carbs back to your diet to reach a sustainable level.0 -
Even with thyroid issues, you should be losing if you truly are in a deficit for 7 months and exercising. I'm not saying you're lying about being in a deficit or logging your food - it is just very easy to underestimate, forget the little tastes/snacks throughout the day, and/or overestimate your exercise burns.
My thyroid is no longer functional (hasn't been since I was a kid). When I wasn't on meds, it made losing weight much more difficult, but not impossible. I'd wait for your results, but also really look closely at what your habits have been. As a warning, thyroid pills don't make the weight just fall off, either. You still will need to work really hard at it.0 -
So maybe you've got some thyroid issues. If not, you're overestimating your calorie burns or underestimating what you are eating. Play around with your numbers some. Tighten up on your weighing and measuring.
7 months is a long time to go with no loss. You are obviously eating at maintenance. Consider that your HRM may not be as accurate as you think - sometimes they are not. Drop your cals to 1500 or 1600 for a couple of weeks and see what happens.
This!!!
OP , if your only netting @1200 calories a day, then you should be losing weight. I would definitely tighten up on weighing and measuring your foods and see what happens.0 -
Usually people who are not successful are not logging as well as they think. It sounds like you are estimating burns ok but make sure you weigh all your solids and measure any calorie containing liquids. Log everything, every day. If you are a "cheat day/meal" person you are likely eating back your deficit and stalling yourself. If you are not logging every single day, every single thing, then you can't have accurate expectations.
ETA: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1234699-logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide0 -
I know many will shun the word "detox" but I think that's a great way to kick start a work out plan, or even when you hit a plateau...I can't personally vouch for Atkins per se.....but perhaps try a raw food detox....keeping to vegetables and fruits. They will keep you full.
Also, I'm sure its been mentioned already....but invest in a good digital food scale.....I personally like anything "Taylor" brand......my grandmother had a Taylor.....when I moved out of her house, I got myself a Taylor brand digital scale from Walmart (think it was like 15 dollars) and I believe it has helped me quite a bit.....you will find that those protein scoops they give you are no where near the stated "gram" measurement.....lol....for example...0 -
I feel you, honey. It's taken me over 2 years to lose 30lbs (with another 60+ still to go). To give you a flavor, yesterday I charted my last 7 weeks of logs and compared them to my change in weight. I actually gained 6lbs over that 7 weeks. I was eating an average of 2,055 calories per day (I took some "time off," if you will, in the middle of that 7 weeks, so that's not my normal deficit level, but this is just an example). I weigh and measure and log my food religiously. Like, I even bought a pocket-sized food scale to keep in my purse so I could weigh my food as often as possible on the rare occasions I eat food I didn't make at home. If I eat 1 Dorito off my kid's plate at dinner, it gets logged. 2 years of messing with this weight loss thing with so little success has led me to be almost obsessive about getting my log correct. My "calories in" are very, very solid, which means my issue is with my "calories out." So...that means my TDEE is around 1,625 calories per day? At 210lbs, 5'6". And I'm definitely at LEAST lightly active - my average steps per day per my Fitbit during that time was over 8,000. (ETA: I've had my thyroid checked, it's perfect.)
Sorry for taking over with a bunch of "me me me" there. I just wanted you to know that you are not alone!! I haven't figured it out either - let me know if you do. :flowerforyou:0 -
Your doctor is suggesting a low carb diet and it may be worth seeing how your body responds to a carb macro, given your history and frustration losing weight. Atkins may be a good choice as it provides you with structure, but realize there are plenty of other structured programs other than Atkins that involve a low carb macro (and you can always just do IIFYM with a lower carb macro).
The question is what's going to be sustainable for you. I have friends that have followed ketogenic diets for close to a decade and swear by it, while I have other friends that couldn't stick with a ketogenic diet for more than a few weeks because it's way too restrictive for them. Anyone that tells you a particular diet makes you "more likely" to fail versus another is talking out of their rear, because what leads to failure isn't the way you choose to cut weight but rather complacency and reverting to your old habits at some point in the future. To rephrase, what they're saying may be true for them because they know their own likes/dislikes, but there is no one-size-fits-all solution when it comes to weight loss and overall diet.
So all of that said, I'd encourage you to try at least lowering your carb macro and just see how it works for a bit. You said you're struggling to lose weight, so make a change and do some self-experimentation. You don't need to go straight to a ketogenic diet (and I probably wouldn't recommend it yet) but perhaps just reduce your carb macro for a few weeks (say <150g a day, although you could go lower if you want), cut calories back slightly and see how things go. In other words, try to make incremental changes to your diet and exercise routine and give it enough time to see if these changes are working before you make additional changes; avoid the temptation to make drastic changes.0 -
I kind of did a kick start by doing a fad diet (Ideal Protein) but honestly I was miserable and felt sick 9.5 days out of 10, my hair was falling out (falling out a bit in the shower is normal but I was constantly having hairs fall out during the day) and I couldn't enjoy normal things like birthday dinners with friends. It also made me broke!
I feel like a hypocrite saying I think it's a bad idea because I did it and it worked and I'm so happy to be 33 lbs lighter but I was miserable. I literally used to day dream about dancing donuts..and pasta...and FRUIT...and basically just food b/c I couldn't eat anything. I still have 25-35 lbs more to go but I'd rather be happy while doing it. I don't reccomend it but I can't say it doesn't work....0 -
Being 5'2" myself, 1700 seems like a high amount of calories for a 5' female trying to lose weight. What are your actual net calories consumed per day? If you aren't eating any of your exercise cals back, then you'd be netting lower, but if you are eating most of them back, I can't see how you'd be in much of a deficit. If your deficit is slim any miscalculations on your food or exercise would eliminate it pretty quick. You'd have to be super careful about weighing and logging0
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I wish there was something I could do to "kick FINISH" my weight loss haha.0
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There is no such thing as a kick-start. You need to develop habits that can last you a lifetime and help you transition to eventually maintaining your weight. 1,700 cals a day with 500-700 calories burned exercising means netting 1,000-1,200 calories a day. If you are eating that much and burning that much, you would be losing. Even with a thyroid condition, doing that for long enough, your thyroid cannot cause you to stay at the same weight forever. You're likely overestimating your calorie burns (sorry, HRMs are not always accurate) and you're probably eating more than you realize.0
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I think a calorie deficit is a good suggestion. I recently started using a meal replacement shake called Shakeology that a lot of my friends use. My sister recommended it for me when I couldn't seem to lose the extra weight. It is a meal replacement shake, but it is made from whole foods. It keeps me full and tastes really good. It has definitely helped me lose the pounds I couldn't kick and I have a ton more energy. Let me know if you want more information about it. I think it may help you. I definitely helped me.
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