Rookie trying to gain muscle

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  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    That is what I get for speed reading. :) Sorry yes and thank you for clarifying that for me. Question... how long did it take you to cut? I know that people are different but would 5 to 6 days a week be too much? I know I have to give my muscle time to rest.

    Do you mean bulk? I trained 3 x per week, heavily, hitting every muscle group. Did a few cardio sessions to keep my hand in, but it's really not necessary, and made sure I ate all my exercise calories back.

    I did it until I felt fat and knew I had to start training for my triathlon season, but still left it too late! I was enjoying it too much I think!

    Took about 3 months. Put on 8/9 lb. probably 3lb muscle, 3lb fat, the rest possible heavier bone density, food in gut from eating more, glycogen in muscle and water.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Body weight exercises will not cut it.

    As long as she is training progressively, bodyweight exercises work just fine

    Do you know that progressive weight training means adding weight to the lifts?

    You have to damage the muscle to build it, and they soon adapt to the strain you are putting them under, that's why when you first do an exercise you ache the next day but if you don't make it harder, you stop getting muscle soreness. You don't need too much pain, that's detrimental.

    The best book I've read so far for women is Bret Contraras Strong Curves. He recommends 4 short sessions per week. I mix and match at the moment, concentrating on my glutes and back right now, where he specialises. It is all explained really well in there.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Body weight exercises will not cut it.

    As long as she is training progressively, bodyweight exercises work just fine

    How to you train body weight squats progressively?

    By getting fatter? Lol...
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    Body weight exercises will not cut it.

    As long as she is training progressively, bodyweight exercises work just fine

    How to you train body weight squats progressively?

    By doing different kinds of squats, all the way down to pistols. Although I contend (along with many others) that weighted squats are superior...you can do the progression of various squats with weights as well, so even pistol squats give you more bang than just bodyweight.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Body weight exercises will not cut it.

    As long as she is training progressively, bodyweight exercises work just fine

    How to you train body weight squats progressively?

    body weight squat
    Goblet squats
    single leg squat
    pistol squat
    shrimp squat

    Adding a little bit of weight to some of those can make them exponentially more difficult. Add 2-5 pounds to the extended leg on a pistol squat- totally different than adding 2.5 pounds to a bar.

    Do a little research- there are tons of progressions- Waldo here is pretty much the resident expert on body weight and bulking- he's a genius.

    strengthunbound.com

    While barbell training is efficient and convenient, most wildly used- it is NOT the only way.

    It's recommended you eat 1954 per day to maintain. Add 250 and you have 2200.

    2200 is your daily bulking calories, but you must be in a good routine to make it work properly. It might be worth trying your 1950 maintaining figure of 1950 and learning the basics of your progressive weights programme (strong curves etc).
    Spring's got most of it- I want to add- this number is not a fixed number- it's more like a moving target- like a RANGE.

    And as you gain weight- and start working with more difficult weights/exercises- you'll need to eat more- so think of it as an arch that grows with you that's not a line- but a band.

    I used to eat 1500 for maintenance- now it's my cutting weight- as I bulked this past winter- I jumped from 2200- to upwards of 3000 and it was still not enough toward the end.

    I would also recommend - invest in some stretchy pants- and some flexible dresses. I pretty much lived in dresses all winter- forget jeans.

    Tell you're significant other what you're doing- and ask them to bear with you- you will have fat days and feel miserable- be prepared- it will happen. It's okay- it will pass.

    Also- I like setting a window- X is the minimum- Y is the maximum- 4-6 months is a good range- 4 is just long enough to get solid results and have time to tinker- 6 is for longer slower gains. I made it to 5- but I wanted to quit at 3.5- and I pushed through and some of my best gains were the last two months. it's mentally helpful to have a fixed idea- albiet flexible in terms of time- that way you have something to hold you to the course when you're feeling down but some flexibility if you bail early.
  • mank32
    mank32 Posts: 1,323 Member
    Body weight exercises will not cut it.

    Where's Waldo??

    :laugh:

    I just love saying that
  • jobaby894
    jobaby894 Posts: 21 Member
    Perfect! I just got on the wesite ( strenghunbound.com), it has got a lot of interesting stuff. Thanks for referring it to me and for the advise. Everyone has been so helpful!
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
    You need to keep the cardio at a minimum, eat 1700 calories extra a week on top of your tdee (which is definitely much higher than 1400) and get lifting heavy 3 x per week, adequate protein, and lots of rest in between to build the muscle.

    Bulking is by far the best thing I ever did for my body. I've been fat phobic all my life. Ended up ironically 30% fat and no shape.

    I'm about 18% now. It's like Goldie Hawns butt in Death Becomes Her. I've turned the clock back. That's a nice treat as I'm 43 and shouldn't be looking the way I do!

    Give me your height, age weight and I'll help you find your numbers. Or go to Scooby's website. Carefully you don't screw up your numbers with too much cardio, it defeats the object of the bulk. You can do all that stuff afterwards when you cut again.

    ^^^ This x 10000

    I was amazed what a bulk could do to my body.

    I was 103 pounds and 25% body fat, now I'm 113 pounds and like 18% body fat. IT WORKS. (plus I eat SO MUCH MORE than I ever did)
  • martinel2099
    martinel2099 Posts: 899 Member
    Learn a good beginners heavy lifting program, Ice Cream fitness is a very popular one, and it's free to learn it.

    You can build muscle and look great for free, I'd only recommend finding a good gym that has all the equipment you need. You don't need a silly coach or anything. There's lots of Youtube videos that will teach you all you need to now and again, for free.
  • alereck
    alereck Posts: 343 Member
    Give me your height, age weight and I'll help you find your numbers. Or go to Scooby's website. Carefully you don't screw up your numbers with too much cardio, it defeats the object of the bulk. You can do all that stuff afterwards when you cut again.

    I've been trying to figure this out and keep getting different numbers. If you would be so kind :)

    5'7" 123 lbs 29 yoa
    Currently I can only make it to the gym 3x week / 1 hour if it makes a difference

    Thanks
  • AleshaRae82
    AleshaRae82 Posts: 31 Member
    bump
  • cwoyto123
    cwoyto123 Posts: 308
    1400 calories? Man you need to be eating more. That is ridiculously low.
  • 43mmmgoody21
    43mmmgoody21 Posts: 146 Member
    okay, I need help if anyone would be so kind. I am trying to gain muscle, my weight is 116 and my calorie intake is 1400 . I am not seeing any results. I work out 3 to 6 days a week from 30 minutes to 70 minutes. What am I doing wrong?

    Unless you are 2 feet tall and weigh 50 pounds, 1400 calories a day won't build any muscle.
  • madrose0715
    madrose0715 Posts: 463 Member
    tagging thread. Great information here.
  • TayAdkins07
    TayAdkins07 Posts: 4 Member
    Bump. Great info!
  • cwoyto123
    cwoyto123 Posts: 308
    Eat more.
  • eknobbe
    eknobbe Posts: 106 Member
    SO MUCH GREAT INFO! BUMPING TO LOOK AT LATER! I AM PLANNING ON STARTING STONGLIFTS 5X5 SOON. I HAVE ONLY BEEN WORKING OUT AT HOME DOING BODYWEIGHT EXERCISES AND LIGHT WEIGHTS.
  • sparacka
    sparacka Posts: 137 Member
    Bump for reference.