76 Days.....Why Isn't This Working?

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Hey all! I was wondering if you might have some quick advice for me? I've been on MFP for about two and a half months. I haven't lost anything. I'm trying to lose twenty pounds or so. I'm 5'1 and my starting weight on here was 135.9 pounds. I arrived at this weight coming from 116 pounds after being sick for quite a while and not eating. (Cancer) Prior to the cancer I weighed 170 pounds. So I lost over 50 pounds within 5 months. I actually gained 4 pounds when I first started within a month or so. I eventually lost those four pounds and I'm right back where I started. But I have not lost any additional weight. I work out at least 4 to 5 days a week (I'm a stay at home mom so the bulk of my activity comes from the gym workouts). I mostly do a lot of cardio, i.e walk/run on the treadmill, elliptical trainer and trail run/walks for at least 40 or so minutes. I use a Nike Plus app so I mark my calories burned from that. I'm working on getting a HRM...I know it's way more reliable. I'm also beginning to incorporate 20 minutes of strength training at home working with 5 to 15 pound weights while doing ChaLean extreme workout videos.I eat at the 1200 calorie daily requirement set by MFP, actually most days extremely under. Over the past 2 weeks I've tried to come in at at least 1200 by "eating back" some of my exercise calories. What am I doing wrong? Is it possible that I need to go below the 1200 calorie mark...meaning should I be netting less than 1000 calories a day? Any advice or information would be helpful. I would especially love to hear from some other small frame shorties trying to lose 20 pounds or so. I have an open diary for viewing to give anyone some insight as to my journey so far. Thanks.
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  • shadow2soul
    shadow2soul Posts: 7,692 Member
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    Are you weighing your food on a food scale?
    - it is highly possible you are eating more calories than you think.

    Have you taken measurements?
    What about progress pictures?

    The fact that you are so close to your goal, generally means it is harder to get the scale to move. I think though if your doing any sort of strength training, you need to be taking measurements. If your measurements are going down, then you are making progress.
    :heart: Weight – So many things can affect weight, because of this it shouldn’t be the only way you track your progress. Things to keep in mind:
    :drinker: Always use the same scale – Different scales can show different weights. You will get the most accurate number for tracking when using the same scale.
    :drinker: Don’t move the scale – Carpet, uneven flooring, different types of flooring…can all affect the weight on the scale. So when you weigh, you want it to be approximately the same spot for the most accurate number for tracking.
    :drinker: 3500 calories – To gain 1lb of fat you need to be over maintenance by 3500 calories.
    :drinker: Muscle Repair – Muscles will hold onto water to repair, because of this it is not uncommon to see a gain for a little while after a workout. This weight comes right back off when they are done repairing.
    :drinker: Sodium – Can cause you to retain water. This can also be amplified if you don’t drink enough to flush it out of your system. This is also another reason for temporary weight gain.
    :drinker: Water – Not drinking enough water can actually cause you to retain water. Recommended amount is 8 cups or 64oz. I drink 64 oz to 128 oz of water a day. It doesn’t have to be plain water either. I like to flavor mine with crystal light or tea.
    :drinker: Time of day – Your weight can fluctuate throughout the day. So for the most accurate tracking, you want to weigh at around the same time.
    :drinker: Frequency – This is up to you, but if small fluctuations bother you than only weigh once a week or less.
    :drinker: Lightest Weight – Will be naked, first thing in the morning, after using the bathroom
    :drinker: Multiple times a Day – Don’t Do It. As I said before, your weight will fluctuate throughout the day. What you eat, what you’re wearing, ect will all affect weight.
    :drinker: Clothes – If you weigh with clothing on, keep in mind that the scale will show your weight plus the weight of your clothes. (Jeans are heavy)
    :drinker: TOM - A lot of women will retain water around their TOM, but its just temporary and will go away.
  • dollforlife
    dollforlife Posts: 41 Member
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    To be honest with you (and myself), no I have NOT taken any measurements since the start. I'm judging by the way my clothes fit and nothing seems to be getting any looser. I definitely should have planned this out better since the beginning. And no I do not weigh my food, but instead measure my food using measuring utensils. I guess the ironic thing is is that I've lost weight before; a substantial amount, without any type of food logging or calorie counting and I was successful. I'm not talking about the weight loss from my not eating when I was sick. But back in 2006 I was extremely overweight coming in at 219 pounds. YES on a 5'1 frame. I lost about 60 pounds in about a year. I just cut out soda, started drinking water, cut out most of my sugar and watched my portion sizes, fat, etc and went to the gym 5 days a week. Is it really possible to be harboring that many hidden calories? But most days I know I'm under. I seriously try to do my due diligence and log every tiny morsel. I'm confused because I keep reading conflicting information; some people say eat a little bit more, you're not eating enough while others say you need to eat even less.
  • CMB1979
    CMB1979 Posts: 588 Member
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    You need to weigh everything you eat in ounces or grams. Don't use cups, tablespoons, etc. Those are volume measurements and can vary drastically - and with things like Peanut Butter, a big "tablespoon" can really add up.
  • newdaydawning79
    newdaydawning79 Posts: 1,503 Member
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    First of all, congrats on completing cancer treatment and feeling better! That's huge!

    Have the doctors checked your hormone levels/thyroid/etc since you completed treatment? I'm sure that stuff has to mess with your metabolism, especially if you weren't eating much and were feeling sick, etc.
  • Erinelda
    Erinelda Posts: 96
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    Seriously, I weighed a leveled tbs of peanut butter and it was 1.5tbs in weight. All those volume vs weight errors add up fast.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
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    Hey all! I was wondering if you might have some quick advice for me? I've been on MFP for about two and a half months. I haven't lost anything. I'm trying to lose twenty pounds or so. I'm 5'1 and my starting weight on here was 135.9 pounds. I arrived at this weight coming from 116 pounds after being sick for quite a while and not eating. (Cancer) Prior to the cancer I weighed 170 pounds. So I lost over 50 pounds within 5 months. I actually gained 4 pounds when I first started within a month or so. I eventually lost those four pounds and I'm right back where I started. But I have not lost any additional weight. I work out at least 4 to 5 days a week (I'm a stay at home mom so the bulk of my activity comes from the gym workouts). I mostly do a lot of cardio, i.e walk/run on the treadmill, elliptical trainer and trail run/walks for at least 40 or so minutes. I use a Nike Plus app so I mark my calories burned from that. I'm working on getting a HRM...I know it's way more reliable. I'm also beginning to incorporate 20 minutes of strength training at home working with 5 to 15 pound weights while doing ChaLean extreme workout videos.I eat at the 1200 calorie daily requirement set by MFP, actually most days extremely under. Over the past 2 weeks I've tried to come in at at least 1200 by "eating back" some of my exercise calories. What am I doing wrong? Is it possible that I need to go below the 1200 calorie mark...meaning should I be netting less than 1000 calories a day? Any advice or information would be helpful. I would especially love to hear from some other small frame shorties trying to lose 20 pounds or so. I have an open diary for viewing to give anyone some insight as to my journey so far. Thanks.

    You aren't losing weight because…

    a) you don't use a food scale
    b) you aren't eating enough
    c) you don't honestly log the food you consume
    d) you don't drink enough water
    e) you overestimate calories burned through exercise

    You need to eat at least 1200 calories a day. Meaning your NET needs to be 1200.
  • tamarasauras
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    I am under the understanding that you need to eat at least 1200 calories each day or your body will go into starvation mode and you won't lose weight. I know it's hard, but try to eat 1200 calories and continue to work out as usual. The HRM will help, but you have to eat enough food for your body to sustain your workouts. Hope that helps!
  • dollforlife
    dollforlife Posts: 41 Member
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    You need to weigh everything you eat in ounces or grams. Don't use cups, tablespoons, etc. Those are volume measurements and can vary drastically - and with things like Peanut Butter, a big "tablespoon" can really add up.


    You are absolutely correct! I have been putting off getting a food scale even though I know I seriously need one. I have a tiny kitchen and very little room. But I suppose I will have to make room for one.. Thank you for your input, it is greatly appreciated.
  • dollforlife
    dollforlife Posts: 41 Member
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    You aren't losing weight because…

    a) you don't use a food scale
    b) you aren't eating enough
    c) you don't honestly log the food you consume
    d) you don't drink enough water
    e) you overestimate calories burned through exercise

    You need to eat at least 1200 calories a day. Meaning your NET needs to be 1200.
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    Thank you for your advice. I will definitely look into trying to eat more calories or according to your to your list I already am and just don't know it. :-) What is your advice as far as reading calorie expenditure? If i dont go by my Nike Plus calculations or the exercise machines calculations? I use a Jawbone to measure my steps taken daily but I am not quite sure how accurate the calorie burn information is. Since I have not purchased a HRM it seems my only point of reference is using those readings I mentioned earlier. But I will give all of your recommendation careful consideration going forward. Thank you all.
  • tbrown1974
    tbrown1974 Posts: 30 Member
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    I use the Nike+ app and I have a HRM. The calories Nike says I burn are often overestimated compared to my HRM. Depending on the workout, it can be up to 200+ calories over what my HRM says. So just be careful eating back calories based on the aap.
  • dollforlife
    dollforlife Posts: 41 Member
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    First of all, congrats on completing cancer treatment and feeling better! That's huge!

    Have the doctors checked your hormone levels/thyroid/etc since you completed treatment? I'm sure that stuff has to mess with your metabolism, especially if you weren't eating much and were feeling sick, etc.

    Thank you! And yes, about a month ago I went to see my primary care physician and she ordered tests. Everything came back clear. I was almost hoping it was my thyroid. Go figure. However, what I am in a process of doing is seeing a specialist. I have made an appointment to see a nutritionist /dietitian to go over my nutritional needs. My appointment is two weeks away. They told me to bring a two week diary. I told the appointment taker I'll be bringing one for the last 90 days. Let's hope they can help me make sense of this. Thank you all for your support.
  • dollforlife
    dollforlife Posts: 41 Member
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    I use the Nike+ app and I have a HRM. The calories Nike says I burn are often overestimated compared to my HRM. Depending on the workout, it can be up to 200+ calories over what my HRM says. So just be careful eating back calories based on the aap.


    OK..that was some scary (albeit well needed) information. Thanks for the heads up!
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
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    What is your advice as far as reading calorie expenditure? If i dont go by my Nike Plus calculations or the exercise machines calculations? I use a Jawbone to measure my steps taken daily but I am not quite sure how accurate the calorie burn information is. Since I have not purchased a HRM it seems my only point of reference is using those readings I mentioned earlier. But I will give all of your recommendation careful consideration going forward. Thank you all.

    I would suggest using about 65% of what your device tells you you're burning.

    Good luck with the dietician. Hopefully he/she can give you some good advice!
  • Melissface
    Melissface Posts: 18 Member
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    Food scale and HRM are the two best investments I made. I have the Polar FT7 and it was well worth the money I spent!
  • dollforlife
    dollforlife Posts: 41 Member
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    Seriously, I weighed a leveled tbs of peanut butter and it was 1.5tbs in weight. All those volume vs weight errors add up fast.


    Wow! I guess I have been kidding myself on a lot of levels. Seeing as how I LOVE my peanut butter I'd better be more careful with that. TY!
  • gringuitica
    gringuitica Posts: 168 Member
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    What do your burns look like, according to Nike? The general rule of thumb is to eat back 50-75% or so of your calories burned, so you can refuel (and meet your cal goal) without eating more than you actually burned (when your burn number is inexact).
  • Supertact
    Supertact Posts: 466 Member
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    I am under the understanding that you need to eat at least 1200 calories each day or your body will go into starvation mode and you won't lose weight.

    Don't listen to this hogwash.
  • dollforlife
    dollforlife Posts: 41 Member
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    Food scale and HRM are the two best investments I made. I have the Polar FT7 and it was well worth the money I spent!

    I am purchasing a food scale tonight! I will have to wait a little while on the HRM but I have heard wonderful things about the Polar FT 7. I was actually looking at the Polar ft4 myself. That seems a little bit more in my price range for what I need right now.
  • dollforlife
    dollforlife Posts: 41 Member
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    What is your advice as far as reading calorie expenditure? If i dont go by my Nike Plus calculations or the exercise machines calculations? I use a Jawbone to measure my steps taken daily but I am not quite sure how accurate the calorie burn information is. Since I have not purchased a HRM it seems my only point of reference is using those readings I mentioned earlier. But I will give all of your recommendation careful consideration going forward. Thank you all.

    I would suggest using about 65% of what your device tells you you're burning.

    Good luck with the dietician. Hopefully he/she can give you some good advice!

    I used to shave off about 10 % anyway. I will try 65%.
  • Momjogger
    Momjogger Posts: 750 Member
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    I don't think you need to weigh your food. I would kill myself if I had to micromanage my food intake that much. I found when I ate 1200 calories or less, I was a mess. Shaky, no energy, no reserves for my workouts. You need to eat more to lose I think. I have a losing sweet spot - about 1500 calories a day with 5 to 9 hours of exercise a week. You just have to find yours. Mess around with your calories and workouts, log everything, be patient and you'll figure it out. Especially if you are going to make this a healthy lifestyle change.