CRON

BoxerBrawler
BoxerBrawler Posts: 2,032 Member
edited February 28 in Health and Weight Loss
A member commented on another post that I made last week and was talking about CRON. I poked around a bit to gain some information on this approach and I really like what I see.

I have been trying to do this program and am on day three. I feel really good so far, haven't been hungry at all. I like it so far.

Is there anyone currently taking this approach? and if so... how is it working out for you? I would like to hear from you with your positive and negative feedback about the program. Your successes, your mistakes, etc.

Thanks so much!

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  • rosebette
    rosebette Posts: 1,663 Member
    I started this approach between 2-3 weeks ago, but have sticking to it more for about 2 weeks. I am 55, female, and 5'1.5". I weigh 120 lbs. Previously, I had been at 1200 calories, eating back exercise calories and was at a real plateau (2 months with no weight loss at all). I am moderately active -- doing strength training 2-3 times a week, walking 1 1/2 miles every day, and usually doing 1-2 heavier workouts like kickboxing or zumba during the week. I am beginning to believe 1200 is my maintenance, and my concern is that as I get older, if I eat any more than that, I will gain. And let's face it, I won't be able to keep up the same level of workouts as I age.

    I began looking into CRON as a way to maintain my weight with optimal nutrition , and hopefully gain some health and anti-agingbenefits. When I did the calculator, it calculated that I needed to net around 1040 a day to be in CR for my size, age, and activity level. Since this isn't that much lower than 1200, I decided to try it. I've also been using the cronometer to make sure I'm getting all my micros. The cronometer also subtracts exercise calories from your intake, so it's the equivalent of "eating back." So far, I have been sticking to the program, although I must admit, while I thought 160 calories less wouldn't be such a big deal, I am much more noticeably hungry. I have to make sure everything I eat is nutrient dense, I can't waste my calories on crap or I could really get screwed up. Feel free to look at my diary which is public, I think.

    I followed another thread that you were active on, and I think you work out a lot more than I do and more intensely, so I would probably be sure to "eat back" exercise calories. CRON is not intended to support high activity levels but to bring your metabolism down, something you might not want because you are younger and more active.

    By the way, I still haven't lost an ounce, so it's not a quick weight loss method, but maybe that's because I'm already older and my body is ready for this way of eating.
  • BoxerBrawler
    BoxerBrawler Posts: 2,032 Member
    Thanks for the reply and information.

    It certainly is an interesting approach!

    I thought I would try it out since I already pretty much follow that particular nutrition plan. I really like the idea of making sure that everything I eat has a huge benefit to my health as far as the nutrients I need. I hear you about the low calorie range, mine is very low as well. I am the opposite though, I find that I eat less and get full quicker. By the end of the day I am full and satisfied and couldn't eat anymore even when I have the calories left. Obviously, eating high levels of the right nutrients keeps a person full.

    I didn't think about the exercise calories and I rarely eat mine back. I just try to stick to my calorie target regardless of how much I work out. So maybe I am doing a combo of TDEE and CRON, LOL!

    I have just done it officially this past week and can feel a difference in my weight and body composition. My appetite is slightly lower than it was before, especially at night. I don't feel the urge to fill up or snack at night anymore. My sweets cravings are gone.

    I find that I can't do my regular: breakfast / morning snack / lunch / afternoon snack any longer. Yesterday I had breakfast, lunch, dinner and a few "others" and I realized I was eating the "others" out of habit! I wasn't hungry like I normally am.

    I think if you want to ease up on your workouts but still want to lose weight and maintain good health this plan works. But only time will tell.

    Oh.... and let me point out that I know on CRON you're not supposed to eat dairy/drink milk... but I am not ready to give up my morning yogurt just yet! LOL! But that's another thing I like about the plan, the encourage you to take baby steps... give up one thing at a time :)

    Message me if you want to compare notes as we go :)
  • rosebette
    rosebette Posts: 1,663 Member
    I didn't read that you weren't supposed to have dairy and milk. In fact, one of the risks of CRON is loss of bone density. I already have osteopenia, so I am not giving up my dairy. In fact, I have been using the cronometer -- www.cronometer.com -- to track my calcium so that I know whether I should eat some dairy for my PM snack or take a supplement.

    I would warn you about adapting "full CRON" that is eating less than 30% of your TDEE at your high activity level. It looks like you burn 500+ calories a day which would result in some very low nets. You may not feel it now, but you might later. For some people, there is also danger of developing and ED because they have a desire to get below 18 BMI, although this has been seen more, ironically, in men than in women. For some reason, CRON really appeals to math/scientist type males who love to count and track everything, and many of them are excessively thin, 5'10" guys who weigh 130 lbs. for instance. I could see how some normal weight guy eating 1700 calories a day could get thin very fast.

    In my own case, I'm not losing, and in fact haven't been at 18 BMI (around 104 lbs.) since high school. I have no desire to be that thin because I was actually quite weak at that weight. If I could get to 110 that would be great, but still not bloody likely considering my stocky body type. If I could build more lean muscle mass, that would be great, though.
  • BoxerBrawler
    BoxerBrawler Posts: 2,032 Member
    Thanks for the reply and sorry for my delay.

    I rather prefer the thin / waif look for myself but I don't want to be unhealthy so I continually struggle between getting too thin / restrictive and building muscle. I am sticking to my low calorie range and high burns for now and will see how it goes over the next few weeks. I am also doing more heavy weight training as well. I am sure I'll have to adjust either my calories or my exercise or both.

    No, I am not giving up my dairy either. I could live on Greek yogurt and cottage cheese and laughing cow light cheese wedges. I eat one or all of those items daily and tough if it doesn't fit into my plan. Dairy does me good, always has! Oh yeah... and I love my Enlighten "good for you" high fiber, iron and protein fudge ice cream bars. Only 70 calories and low fat :) yum!

    Send me a message if you'd like to compare more notes...
  • rosebette
    rosebette Posts: 1,663 Member
    I'm 10 years older than you and while it would be great to get down to around 110, but I don't want the "thin/waif" look because at my age thin/waif can mean that gaunt look and ropy neck. If I can recomp my body to look more muscular, I'll be happy.

    Right now am still struggling with plateau that I'm rather miserable about and even thinking about eating a bit more on the advice of some. I'm getting lightheaded after heavier cardio workouts.

    I can't live without yogurt, cottage cheese, or laughing cow -- which is a great snack on an apple, by the way. Just had an ounce and a half of cheddar cheese from a NH dairy for lunch with some whole wheat crackers -- awesome!
  • BoxerBrawler
    BoxerBrawler Posts: 2,032 Member
    Yum! Cheese is so good!

    I truly believe in whole, wholesome, real foods and pretty much live on meat and veggies with limited fruits. Once in a while. I do eat a little whole grain or multi-grain here and there but stick to low carbohydrate options and try to go with spelt, flax, etc. mixed in.

    Plateau's suck... I have hit them as well, as we all do. I've tried all the tricks to break through like eating more, eating less, exercising more/less, changing my foods, routines, etc. The only way I have been able to break through a plateau is with time. Just keep doing what you're doing and sooner or later you'll break through.

    I understand about the bones/waif look. It's not for everyone. That's why I'm trying to lift heavy along with some mean calorie restriction. Maybe I can be the exception that can have both! LOL
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