Just_eat_vegetables!

I don't know how other people are dieting but I've found if I eat about 2 cups of vegetables a day I lose weight fast. I did a little research on the internet and most vegetables, outside of CORN and SWEET PEAS, actually create a calorie deficit. They're so low on calories that it costs your body more calories to metabolize the vegetables than the calories they put into your body.

Tomatoes, green beans, celery, peppers, carrots and more are some of the vegetables you should work into your diet. All the stupid toppings like cheese, dressing, bacon bits etc are useless. If you're putting that stuff in your vegetables you might as well go get a Big Mac.

Also stay away from bacon and deep fried food. Even a candy bar is lower on calories per oz than deep fried food and bacon.
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  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    That is all try. Veggies are good.
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    Strong first post.
  • oedipa_maas
    oedipa_maas Posts: 577 Member
    I don't know how other people are dieting but I've found if I eat about 2 cups of vegetables a day I lose weight fast. I did a little research on the internet and most vegetables, outside of CORN and SWEET PEAS, actually create a calorie deficit. They're so low on calories that it costs your body more calories to metabolize the vegetables than the calories they put into your body.

    Tomatoes, green beans, celery, peppers, carrots and more are some of the vegetables you should work into your diet. All the stupid toppings like cheese, dressing, bacon bits etc are useless. If you're putting that stuff in your vegetables you might as well go get a Big Mac.

    Also stay away from bacon and deep fried food. Even a candy bar is lower on calories per oz than deep fried food and bacon.

    There is no credible science supporting negative calorie foods. None.
  • gmallan
    gmallan Posts: 2,099 Member
    I don't know how other people are dieting but I've found if I eat about 2 cups of vegetables a day I lose weight fast. I did a little research on the internet and most vegetables, outside of CORN and SWEET PEAS, actually create a calorie deficit. They're so low on calories that it costs your body more calories to metabolize the vegetables than the calories they put into your body.

    Tomatoes, green beans, celery, peppers, carrots and more are some of the vegetables you should work into your diet. All the stupid toppings like cheese, dressing, bacon bits etc are useless. If you're putting that stuff in your vegetables you might as well go get a Big Mac.

    Also stay away from bacon and deep fried food. Even a candy bar is lower on calories per oz than deep fried food and bacon.

    There is no credible science supporting negative calorie foods. None.

    This but vegetables are still a good idea as they have lots of bulk for not many calories (try and eat 400 calories worth of carrots/spinach/cauliflower etc.). They also have fibre and lots of vitimins and minerals.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,342 Member
    Vegie are great, but the negative calorie food myth is 100% just a myth and has completely been debunked.

    And frankly, your advice is simplistic and pretty bad.
  • neveragain84
    neveragain84 Posts: 534 Member
    I don't know how other people are dieting but I've found if I eat about 2 cups of vegetables a day I lose weight fast. I did a little research on the internet and most vegetables, outside of CORN and SWEET PEAS, actually create a calorie deficit. They're so low on calories that it costs your body more calories to metabolize the vegetables than the calories they put into your body.

    Tomatoes, green beans, celery, peppers, carrots and more are some of the vegetables you should work into your diet. All the stupid toppings like cheese, dressing, bacon bits etc are useless. If you're putting that stuff in your vegetables you might as well go get a Big Mac.

    Also stay away from bacon and deep fried food. Even a candy bar is lower on calories per oz than deep fried food and bacon.

    There is no credible science supporting negative calorie foods. None.

    This but vegetables are still a good idea as they have lots of bulk for not many calories (try and eat 400 calories worth of carrots/spinach/cauliflower etc.). They also have fibre and lots of vitimins and minerals.

    +1

    Plus no food is bad in moderation. Even Big Macs, bacon, cheese, or even fried food.
  • asciident
    asciident Posts: 166 Member
    Also stay away from bacon and deep fried food. Even a candy bar is lower on calories per oz than deep fried food and bacon.

    A cooked slice of streaky bacon is something like 40-80 calories depending on weight, flavorings, etc. Only fun-sized candy bars are fewer calories than one piece of bacon.

    There's no good reason to eliminate foods you enjoy unless it's medically necessary.
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  • oedipa_maas
    oedipa_maas Posts: 577 Member

    But without toppings, the veg isn't worth eating! Haha.
    And you take away my bacon and candy bars, I take away your thumbs.

    Your ideas are intriguing to me and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
  • PennyVonDread
    PennyVonDread Posts: 432 Member
    I don't know how other people are dieting but I've found if I eat about 2 cups of vegetables a day I lose weight fast. I did a little research on the internet and most vegetables, outside of CORN and SWEET PEAS, actually create a calorie deficit. They're so low on calories that it costs your body more calories to metabolize the vegetables than the calories they put into your body.

    Tomatoes, green beans, celery, peppers, carrots and more are some of the vegetables you should work into your diet. All the stupid toppings like cheese, dressing, bacon bits etc are useless. If you're putting that stuff in your vegetables you might as well go get a Big Mac.

    Also stay away from bacon and deep fried food. Even a candy bar is lower on calories per oz than deep fried food and bacon.

    Those stupid toppings and fried foods are keeping some of us alive.

    High sodium diets and high protein/iron/fat intake are keeping my failing heart beating.

    Don't give blanket advice to a diverse range of people. Every single thing you've said completely ignores nutrition and macro nutrients. It also ignores the fact that peppers and tomatoes are fruit, eating fat is not what makes you fat, and eating a Big Mac isn't inherently negative in and of itself. Neither are deep fried foods, meat, fruit, or any of the other food options you completely failed to acknowledge.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    You know you can eat vegetables AND bacon???!!!
  • oedipa_maas
    oedipa_maas Posts: 577 Member

    But without toppings, the veg isn't worth eating! Haha.
    And you take away my bacon and candy bars, I take away your thumbs.

    Your ideas are intriguing to me and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    LOVE veggies! I have a refrigerator full of them. I have some amazing recipes, too. But don't forget to enjoy your favorite treats, fit them in your macros! It's easier to stick with a regimen if it's not too restrictive in the food choices.
  • TheNoLeafClover
    TheNoLeafClover Posts: 335 Member
    No. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to make a bacon and cheese omelette.
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  • Shropshire1959
    Shropshire1959 Posts: 982 Member
    They're so low on calories that it costs your body more calories to metabolize the vegetables than the calories they put into your body.

    Really? .. Prove it
  • FaylinaMeir
    FaylinaMeir Posts: 661 Member
    they actually did a study (you can google it if you want) that showed celery was about 5 calories per piece and you would use about 2-3.5 calories to process and digest it. Not negative but not exactly calorie packed either.

    As far as veggies go, heck yeah eat tons but don't focus your entire diet around it or you'll become a stick figure -_-
  • Cryptonomnomicon
    Cryptonomnomicon Posts: 848 Member
    As a vegan and logical person I find the premise of this thread ridiculous to say the least.

    There is no such thing as a negative calorie food.

    The more logical thing to say would have been that vegetables tend to be nutrient dense and generally lower in calories than fatty fried foods.

    OP do some research on nutrition before making such bold proclamations.

    The only reason I brought up that I am vegan is the undertone of your thread seems to be to promote veganism/vegetarianism, but misinformation like this does more damage to the validity of your dietary preference than help.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,342 Member
    As a vegan and logical person I find the premise of this thread ridiculous to say the least.

    There is no such thing as a negative calorie food.

    The more logical thing to say would have been that vegetables tend to be nutrient dense and generally lower in calories than fatty fried foods.

    OP do some research on nutrition before making such bold proclamations.

    The only reason I brought up that I am vegan is the undertone of your thread seems to be to promote veganism/vegetarianism, but misinformation like this does more damage to the validity of your dietary preference than help.

    This is true. OP also seems to ignore the fact that people actually NEED a certain amount of calories and getting as low as possible is not actually the goal.
  • They're so low on calories that it costs your body more calories to metabolize the vegetables than the calories they put into your body.

    Really? .. Prove it

    LOL I see now where I goofed up. The way I worded that post made it look like I was saying you should only eat 2 cups of vegs a day or just go entirely vegan. That's my bad and I want to clear this up:

    I've been tracking my caloric intake for 2 years now. I've gone as far as exactly duplicating my diet--as in breakfast, lunch and dinner for several weeks in a row and then weighing in every 7 days to see how much my weight was affected.

    I'm 5'9", 39 years old and currently 208 lbs. Yeah I slipped but hey, I wear the weight well LOL.

    So anyway when I was seriously dieting in 2012 and I wound up losing 28 lbs in a little over 90 days--roughly a couple pounds a week, which is plenty healthy. But the way I went about it was by following a strict low calorie diet that was around 1500 calories a day. It was EXTREMELY difficult. I was always hungry and a little grouchy during that time.

    But I learned from it as well. Towards the end of it I found it that from week to week, if I ate 1600 calories a day, 100 more than my goal, AND ate either 2 cups of vegetables or a can of vegetables for ONE meal a day, I lost 3 pounds a week. Sometimes more.

    I understand that losing 3 or more pounds a week is considered unhealthy but it definitely opened my eyes. If people want to say vegs burning calories is a myth, I really don't care. All I know how it affected MY body and MY weight. And believe me, I logged my meals and weight and tracked it very carefully.

    To sum up I'm not saying you should only eat vegetables. In my experience you don't have to. You can eat "fun" food and stay under your caloric budget. But in MY experience, eating a medium-sized portion of plain vegetables every day dropped my weight faster than by just maintaining a normal weight-reducing caloric budget.

    And here's something else to think about. In 2014, a high percentage of Americans are considered obese. I don't know what our average weight was in 1814, but I'd be willing to bet our great-great grandparents were eating alot less bread and beef in those days.

    Think about the amount of work that goes into that hamburger pattie in a Big Mac--from the time that baby calf was born to the day it wound up in a little bag at the drive-thru window at McDonald's. It hasn't always been this easy and cheap to procure a beef pattie. The same goes for bread--from grain harvested in the field to the bun on your plate.

    Now compare that to the effort that goes into growing and preparing vegetables. A little old lady can plant vegetables in her backyard, pick them and throw them into a pot to eat. That's nothing compared to the work that went into the preparation of meat and bread throughout most of human history. Beef and bread have never been as accessible(in American anyway) at any point in our prior history.

    When scientists perform an experiment they look at variables. Today we do so little manual labor and pay so little for so many calories that beef and bread contain and it has radically changed from what it was even 100 years ago. That's a MAJOR variable.

    Try it.
  • sjaplo
    sjaplo Posts: 974 Member
    I'm still gonna go with no - I eat 2300 cal/day on average and I'm losing. I eat, for me, the correct amount of veggies, fruit, fish and meats. I'm 52 and what had been the stumbling block for me in the past were restrictive diets that cut out or focused on certain foods or the way foods are digested.

    I eat what I like and stay within my alloted calories and I'm happy with the progress.

    Thank you kindly though.
  • Delquin
    Delquin Posts: 33 Member
    Volumetrics. Foods with lower "caloric density" (like veggies and fruits) mean you can eat more, fill up, and cut back on calories more easily.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,342 Member
    1500-1600 for a 5'9, 208lb man is very low. No wonder you were hungry and grumpy.

    My issues with your initial posts were that you were perpetrating a myth (that some vegies are negative calories) and that you can't have anything on them.

    The negative calorie myth is exactly that. Just because you lost more eating more veg doesn't make it true. Absolutely share experience, just don't pretend it has some magical scientific explanation that's been debunked. Saying you don't care is like sitting here saying you don't care that science has shown the world is round, it suits you to think it's flat.

    As for the toppings - if it fits your calories, eat it. Restricting all the tasty things just leads to failure and binging.

    Finally - you could be eating SO much more and still losing.
  • sanjoparolas
    sanjoparolas Posts: 549 Member
    So you are saying that what worked for you is to make sure you include 2 cups of vegetables in your diet daily and that worked better for you than focusing on calorie restriction. I have found that to be true in my own experience as well - focus on the vegetables and fruits and therefore eat fewer processed foods because I am not craving them as much or as hungry.
  • holliebevineau
    holliebevineau Posts: 441 Member
    No. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to make a bacon and cheese omelette.


    ^:laugh:
  • FeraFilia
    FeraFilia Posts: 4,664 Member
    Tomatoes, green beans, celery, peppers, carrots and more are some of the vegetables you should work into your diet. All the stupid toppings like cheese, dressing, bacon bits etc are useless. If you're putting that stuff in your vegetables you might as well go get a Big Mac.

    I'm pretty sure my salad with bacon bits, shredded cheese, and Italian dressing is still more nutritious than a Big Mac.
  • holliebevineau
    holliebevineau Posts: 441 Member
    I try to fill up on veggies like broccoli and brussel sprouts and have a 4 to 6oz peice of chicken or fish. I feel satisfied for hours.
  • Lemongrab13
    Lemongrab13 Posts: 206 Member
    Incorporating so many vegetables is great (and recommended), but I've never seen anything to prove that any food can burn calories.
    Plus I think all the restrictions people apply on veg/fruit now is unhelpful. "Don't eat frozen or packaged; only eat organic; don't apply dressings, etc"
    Why not? As long as you don't overdo it and it's within your calorie limit you should be fine.
  • 6ftamazon
    6ftamazon Posts: 340 Member
    Why is cheese and bacon and beef bad for weight loss?