Why does existence have to have a beginning and/or end?

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_John_
_John_ Posts: 8,642 Member
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And also, assuming an entirely natural world would any beginning or end have a predetermined/predictable beginning and end or do the choices afforded by life affect existence so as to make any prediction unreliable?
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  • Tiggerrick
    Tiggerrick Posts: 1,078 Member
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    Without a beginning would there be an end?
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,565 Member
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    So you can eat back the correct exercise calories. Duh.

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  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,642 Member
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    Obviously you need life to perceive existence, so I'll take that easy comment/answer out of the discussion.
  • DenDweller
    DenDweller Posts: 1,438 Member
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    Ask the guy riding a bike towards us on another end of the observable universe. He knows how this thread will end.
  • _Stardust_
    _Stardust_ Posts: 124 Member
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  • LouisianaHotSauce_93
    LouisianaHotSauce_93 Posts: 184 Member
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    Cause 'Merica!
  • sixout
    sixout Posts: 3,129 Member
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    It has neither.
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,932 Member
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    How can we know that it has a beginning or an end?
  • luthergravy
    luthergravy Posts: 27
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    And also, assuming an entirely natural world would any beginning or end have a predetermined/predictable beginning and end or do the choices afforded by life affect existence so as to make any prediction unreliable?

    No. Your premise is entirely incorrect. The universe is basically like an incredibly super-massive cat. With windows. And a clock strapped to its beak. Oh, sorry did I not say? It has a beak. It's like a kind of bird-cat. And it's round. I hope that helps clarify things for you.
  • sixout
    sixout Posts: 3,129 Member
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    And also, assuming an entirely natural world would any beginning or end have a predetermined/predictable beginning and end or do the choices afforded by life affect existence so as to make any prediction unreliable?

    No. Your premise is entirely incorrect. The universe is basically like an incredibly super-massive cat. With windows. And a clock strapped to its beak. Oh, sorry did I not say? It has a beak. It's like a kind of bird-cat. And it's round. I hope that helps clarify things for you.

    I always saw the universe as more duck like. I feel that you are horribly mistaken.
  • sentaruu
    sentaruu Posts: 2,206 Member
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    There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only change.
  • luthergravy
    luthergravy Posts: 27
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    There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only change.

    ...or a timekeeping super-massive bird-cat.
  • sixout
    sixout Posts: 3,129 Member
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    There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only change.

    Okay, Obama.
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,932 Member
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    There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only change.

    A 10, a 5, and five 1s please.
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
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    Big who cares!?

    If questions like these are what keep you up at night, then your existence would be futile.
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
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    Existence is like sex. With no end, there would be only chafing.
  • rfw24
    rfw24 Posts: 443 Member
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    Maybe we are the aliens......
  • sixout
    sixout Posts: 3,129 Member
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    Big who cares!?

    If questions like these are what keep you up at night, then your existence would be futile.

    I care about my existence, thank you.
  • jwats8
    jwats8 Posts: 112
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    Because that's what makes it valuable.

    Very good answer.

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