Your Heart Only has so Many Beats...
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Interesting.
Of course, if we do cardio, our average heart rate should decrease. So more beats for 1 hour a day but less for every other hour. Should balance some how.
Not that I agree with his theory.0 -
It's up there with a woman's uterus falling out if she runs.
Sorry but as we age, this can actually happen. It is called organ "prolapse". I don't know the numbers or how common it may be... but organ prolapse is REAL and special precautions need to be used by those with this condition when they run or do anything strenuous.
Just saying...
this just made me kegal.
anyone else?
Yes. :blushing:0 -
Maybe is his correct but the 20-30 mins that your heart rate is up during exercise is dwarfed by the other 23 hours+ of the day where your heart rate is lowered by being stronger and more efficient through exercise0
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Selection bias. He's only recalling what he felt were anomalies.
Oh, and his theory is stupid.
This!0 -
Of course your heart only has so many beats. If it keeps going after everything else stops, you're on zombie time. You should also be warned that no matter what we do with our school systems 50% of people are below average. Then there's everyone's favorite: eat right, exercise, die anyway. Does that mean exercise isn't worth it? Hell no!
Beware people bearing specious slogans. They're not enough reason to change your lifestyle.0 -
ok, soooo, this theory in the medical community doesn't exist. and since i am in the medical community i can support this.
hearts of athletes are stronger, and actually beat slower then of an average person,
there is something called "athletes heart" basically the heart muscle grows stronger so its able to pump more blood with less beats, in a non pathological way, compared to someone who has hypertension and has it enlarged.
great for the cardiovascular system in general, statistically speaking, less diseases=longer lifespan.
on the other hand.
athletes who overtrain can actually harm themselves, thats why there are stories of runners/bodybuilders etc just dying of a heart attacks because their hearts basically explode(highly over exaggerated here) due to the intensity. also people who take roids. haha0 -
First off, heart attacks are not attributed to the heart having only so many beats. Heart attacks occur due to abnormal blood flow to the actual heart tissue. Even heart failure isn't attributed to hust old age. Its still correlated to coronary heart disease, diabetes, etc.
So, in summary, dude is an idiot.0 -
Never heard that theory before. It sounds like a big crock of crap to me, but it sounds like an awesome plot for a movie, book, video game, or comic book. Maybe I should get to writing. lol0
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glad you shared, it gives me something to think about and realize we truly do have the time on Earth that we have and that's what we have. We can die healthy or we can die unhealthy. What I'm referring to here is car accidents, etc. I want to be healthy as long as I can. Never know if we have a tomorrow so I figure I want to feel my best for Today!Okay...this is one from a colleague at work. He's in his 50's used to be in the forces and fire brigade etc and we were talking about exercise and the workouts that we do.
Then he regailed that back in his service days, there were always a bunch of guys that were doing marathons and cycling challenges etc and he then said in later years they seemed to be the ones with the most health concerns and a couple died of heart attacks.
Anyway...to cut a long story short, his theory is that your heart only has so many beats and maybe through indurance exercise you work it to an early grave.
Personally I think this is baloney, I mean think of all the atheletes that should have karked it by now. Paula Radcliffe would be a existential marvel!
But just wanted to know if anyone had any thoughts or had ever heard of this 'concept' before...?
Interesting concept...
Obese people would use their hearts more.. maybe there is something in that!
In all honesty we do only have a limited amount of time on this earth. We never know what is exactly right and what is wrong. The best we can do is what is right with the information you have, we kind of have to ignore alot of the blurb.0 -
Sir Bedevere "And that my liege is how we know the earth to be banana shaped."
King Arthur " This new learning amazes me Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheep's bladders can be used to prevent earthquakes."
Ranks right up there. Just a thought; the fitter you are the slower your heart beats at rest. How do you fit that in? Or someone like cyclist Miguel Indurain who's resting heart rate was 42bpm?
Mines 58 by the by.0 -
I talked with my ex (whizbang physiology, nutrition, medical geek) about the couple of people that died this past winter / spring during or soon after completing half marathon. Her opinion it comes down to two things: Training and Underlying conditions.
In my athletic training classes the instructor did tell us that "your heart disease starts the moment you're born". Seeing how heart disease (and complications from cardiovascular ailments) is the leading cause of death worldwide, I think that statement holds water. The hypothesis of so many beats is an over-simplication
If she writes back I'll update with her opinion.0 -
But like a car that only has so many miles, with proper maintenance it can go beyond what it was originally intended to do.
Therefore the theory is dumb.
What he said....plus my response... BS....
Of course, we all know...... when it's our time, it's our time.... the End...
Anyone counted those beats yet?0 -
:noway: I don't believe that. Although people with slower heart rates do tend to live longer; but exercise can help lower your heart rate, so that would also make him wrong.
However, I believe you go when you time comes. Time, place, and way were determined when I was born. This way of thinking tends to make me a little more adventurous. I am working out and trying to get healthier so I can enjoy the time that has been given to me, not to extend it.0 -
But like a car that only has so many miles, with proper maintenance it can go beyond what it was originally intended to do.
Therefore the theory is dumb.
Not entirely dumb. When it is your time to die, you will die regardless of whether you are fat, obese, thin or healthy. At the second when your heart stops and there are no more heartbeats left...0 -
This sounds like the tagline to some movie about a girl who has heart disease and falls in love with the captain of the football team. I guess maybe she's on the marching band or something too.
"Your heart only has so many beats...what song will you play?"
Blech!!! I'm not going to see it, that's for sure.
She wears short skirts, I wear tee shirts. She's cheer captain and i'm on the bleachers.0 -
Hummingbird theory.
Fascinating.0 -
I call BS----0
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also, endurance. Just sayin'........0
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Interesting discussion. Strangely enough I have had that conversation with a cardiologist. My father who was 71 when he died of a massive heart attack, had no pre-existing heart condition (had a clear ECG 6 months prior), walked daily and had no weight issues. Because this was an out of the blue situation, both my brother and myself went to get a baseline ECG done. The cardiologist who followed up the test had asked why I was having this done as I was "not at risk" (I told him my Dad's story) and he had said sometimes the heart just wears out. No reason for failure, it just does.
I assumed that meant you only get so many beats. Of course then I started freaking out about exercise and the Doc reminded me it is about "quality of life", not "quantity".0 -
I've generally heard this theory come up when people look at the lifespan of various animals and then their average heartbeats. I guess (I've never gotten to see the full data) they notice that the trend tends to be that animals with faster heartbeats have shorter lifespans. Like I said- I never got to see the data they used, so it could easily be a "we got the kind of data that supports our hypothesis, so we stopped doing any more research" issue. Heck, all you need is three animals, one each with a fast, medium, and slow heart rate, and as long as the fast HR dies sooner, the medium HR dies somewhere in the middle, and the slow one dies last, someone will say "that's proof enough for me".
But there's also a factor that most animals simply LIVE. They don't take actions to adjust their well-being the same way we do. Animals don't work out and exercise to get healthy. They do stuff for the sake of doing it or for the sake of survival. If my dog doesn't feel like running, she just doesn't run. She doesn't force herself to get up and move in the name of fitness goals. She simply sits in the grass and startes eating bugs (I swear I do feed her).0 -
its bs, but i've also noticed that distance runners tend to pay the price in later years. usually joint problems not heart problems tho.0
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Heart attacks are caused by the death of muscle tissue in the wall of the heart which, in turn are caused by blockages in the blood vessels of the heart. These blockages, commonly known as atherosclerosis, are the result of inflammation in the blood vessels mainly from poor eating habits over many years. Someone with partially blocked blood vessels might push themselves into a heart attack throught intense exercise, but not vice versa.0
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I remember a factoid on either NOVA or NATURE program on PBS that said all warm blooded vertebrates have approximately 3 billion heart beats in their life time, regardless of species. I'm certain on the 3 billion, not certain on the type of vertebrate. It could have said all vertebrates, all land, etc. It was on a program about humming birds, specifically talking about their amazing metabolisms.0
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No matter what - eat right and exercise that way no matter when your heart beats it's last beat whether it's today or 50 years from now - you'll leave a great looking corpse. Enjoy life.0
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Exact words were: "That the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard" And she reiterated people who participate in cardiovascular sports who expire unexpectedly usually had some pre-existing condition or lack of training.If she writes back I'll update with her opinion.0 -
I used to say this all the time as a joke, never thought it would be taken seriously. It was always my excuse for not exercising and thankfully I got over saying that.0
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I used to train with a Tai Chi/Kung Fu teacher (he would call himself a Master) who went by this theory.
He was an idiot.0 -
Anyway...to cut a long story short, his theory is that your heart only has so many beats and maybe through indurance exercise you work it to an early grave.
His theory is utter speculation and not supported by any study I've looked at.0
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