Insight on not losing weight for a year, vegan. LONG POST.

Hi everyone,
First of all thanks for reading my post, I appreciate it but just a warning that this will be a LONG one ^_^ ...

So i've been trying to lose weight/ get strong/ healthy for a few years now, and although at the beginning (4 years ago) I did lose 28 pounds I haven't been able to lose anything since! I lost 14 pounds, gained it back, lost a bit again, and all that with still eating a good diet and exercise, I figured I wasn't working hard enough so 2 years ago I started getting really hard on myself and pushing myself, I've constantly tried different diets/ exercise routines but when they clearly weren't working I changed it up so I don't think sticking to the same routine is the problem, the last year though has definitely been the hardest , I've become a vegetarian. then a vegan, started running a little, starting yoga, lifting weights, basically I've tried many things and I haven't lost one pound, from Jillian Michaels 30 day shred to exercising 4 hours a day at one point , nothing!

I'm a lot more fit, healthy , happy and even flexible but the pounds are not coming off, and although I've built strength there isn't a significant change in my measurements so I'm not gaining that much muscle , I've gotten my thyroid checked and everything seems to be fine, it's getting very frustrating now as I've been working so hard, I always thought the problem was me but now I'm wondering if it could be something else? Any ideas?

I do cardio at least 1 hour a day with 30 minuets of strength training , 6 times a week, eat clean, almond/ oat milk, fruit , vegetables, oat crackers, raw nuts, raw nut butters etc, I eat between 1200-2000 calories a day , I basically just eat when I'm actually hungry, usually never over 1800 but there are VERY rare occasions when I eat 2000, NEVER junk food, my BMR is 1700 ish although I realize that may not be accurate, I used to eat 1200-1400 a day but was very weak and a fitness trainer online told me I really should be eating 1800-2000 for losing weight while building muscle with the information I gave him , I still think that's a little high and try to stay much below but this information is just for reference and I am 18.

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  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    Your ticker says you want to lose 30 lbs? What is your current height and weight? Also, are you measuring your food accurately? I see you have a new account. Have you been logging on MFP?
  • LazSommer
    LazSommer Posts: 1,851 Member
    Eating more than you think, exercising more than you need to, thinking eating clean/raw/vegan is what you think it is or makes you healthy.


    Take your pick, or take them all.
  • bwogilvie
    bwogilvie Posts: 2,130 Member
    My advice is to turn to the experts:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/833026-important-posts-to-read

    I'd say that the two most important posts there are "the basics" and "you're probably eating more than you think."ç

    Important food for thought (food that won't make you fat!).
  • blastbeat78
    blastbeat78 Posts: 31 Member
    What are your stats and what have you set your macros too? Do you weigh and track all your food?

    I think you are putting too much emphasis on exercise. Of course it’s important for health but weight loss is 70% diet and 30% exercise. Do you eat back your exercise calories?

    I spent 2 years in the gym putting in 3-4 hours a day and didn’t lose a pound. As soon as I started really looking at what I ate the weight just fell off!

    Are you sure your BMR is 1700? That sounds more like that would be your TDEE.

    I also think you need a bit more consistency with your daily calorie intake. You need to calculate what that should be (which is all dependent on your stats and goals) and for the most part, stick to it. Although eating more than that a couple of days a week doesn’t do any harm.
  • melaniefave41
    melaniefave41 Posts: 222 Member
    If the information you have provided is accurate, I would highly suggest you discuss this with your primary care physician and ask him/her to refer you to a registered dietitian. MFP is great for opinions, but remember, they are just opinions. And kudos on the feeling healthier, hang on to that feeling and keep that as your focus.
  • @blast

    Hi, thanks for your reply
    I see your point on the exercise but I think this exercise routine works best for me, as my goal is not only to lose weight but to get strong as well, there is a lot of information out there so its hard to know what ratio is correct but I am 90% with my diet, it was the thing I focused on more for years and I realize its importance , I do weigh and track all of my food, if not using online trackers like MFP, writing it down.
    According to 3 different formulas my BMR is 1700 and my TDEE is 2500.
    I know what you mean about consistency but from my knowledge I thought eating different amounts of calories a day was a good for your metabolism, although everyone is different and maybe consistency will work for me so I'll give it a shot , thanks!
  • @bwog

    Thanks I'll definitely look into that! :)
  • @melanie

    Hi! thanks very much for your reply ,
    I have been referred to a dietitian and am currently waiting for a response, so hopefully that'll help a bit, just thought that MFP might have some similar stories or advice. thanks so much for the response I appreciate it!
  • trogalicious
    trogalicious Posts: 4,584 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here

    long story short?

    If you aren't losing, you're not at a calorie deficit. Doesn't matter if you're a baconator, vegan diet, or a lactoovoeggotarian.

    1. don't trust the initial setup that MFP provides. If you put in the wrong/inaccurate information, it'll tell you to eat an amount that may not be applicable.
    2. Make sure you eat enough.
    3. Figure out what works for you and is sustainable/healthy/long term.
    4. avoid fads. don't buy in to any "Hey, try the twinkie and vodka diet"
    5. Don't cut out anything now that you don't plan on literally giving up forever.
    6. GET A FOOD SCALE. Weigh everything. No, seriously.
    7. Get an HRM with a chest strap. You'll at least have a better idea of what you're burning. It'll be more accurate than the generic info in the exercise database.. and even more than the cardio machines. This is great for steady state cardio (run/walk/etc)
    8. Don't go balls out. You'll burn out. I see 300 lb people show up here, instantly start working out and cutting their intake SEVERELY... trying to cut out all of their carbs at once.. whatever. Take it slow. Figure out how much you need to eat FIRST in order to lose.. then incorporate exercise.
    9. Don't cardio yourself to death.
    10. Take the information on the forums with a grain of salt. A lot of people that have been here for a while.. and have been successful, may seem jaded. They give out GREAT advice day after day, only to be met with people that refuse to listen.
    11. Eat real food. Not diet food. Not "low fat, sugar free, now without X." It's easier to get/find/count.
    12. don't set time restrictions.
    13. measure yourself weekly. Don't just weigh. Measure and take pictures.
    14 BE PATIENT.
    15. Avoid forum topics that have "1200" in the title. It's just full of butthurt. Lots of it.
    16. If you ask a question on the forum, give as much information as you can ("yes, I have a food scale and weigh my food" is worlds better than "I eat a palm full of miscellaneous boiled chicken parts..sometimes.")
    17. Be honest with yourself and honest with us.
    18. This isn't a game, it's about changing your lifestyle. Do that.

    pretty much that.

    ...and don't fall into the "1200 calorie" vertigo of suck because of:

    the typical MFP users does this:
    1. I wanna lose weight, let's try MFP.
    2. OH! Wow, it tells me I can lose 2 lbs a WEEK? AWESOME!
    3. I just sit at a desk when I'm not working out, I guess I'm sedentary.
    4. MFP tells them 1200 calories, and they don't even eat that.. then they work out on top of it.. creating an even bigger deficit.
    5. Lose a lot, fast, brag about 1200 calorie success.
    6. Come back in a few months trying to figure out why they're dizzy, tired, not losing weight.
    7. Get on the forums, ask why they aren't losing.
    8. Get two responses (I eat 1200 and lose) (I eat 2200 and lose)
    9. Argument ensues about who is right.

    Now. That being said. These threads happen hundreds of times per day. Most times, and I mean really.. seriously.. 95% of the time.. people get the 1200 number because they don't put the right information in when they set up the account. There are a great number of people that are trying to help. I'm one of 'em.

    I'm a hardcore advocate of actually finding out what works for the individual.. by means of other calculators, averages, time, practice, and patience.

    Blanket prescriptions of 1200 calories "because it worked for me" is more harmful to the generic new user than the "figure out what you need to eat." Unfortunately, one is a LOT easier to type.

    Find out what you need: http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/

    and make sure to read: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    ...and here's another approach.

    Block off 6 weeks. log EXACTLY what you eat for those six weeks, weigh at the beginning, weight at the end. If you've lost, you're eating under your TDEE. If you haven't lost, congrats.. you found your TDEE, if you've gained... then you're above TDEE.

    From there, look at how much you lost or gained and you have a rough estimate of how to shift your intake to balance it out.

    Online calculators are great, but they're just estimates. They give you decent ideas for starting points. From there, it's on you to fine tune it.
  • @trog

    Hi, thanks for all the great reply I got a little new information, the only thing I can think of that is wrong really is maybe not eating enough calories and protein based on your response.
    I'll try the 6 week block and see how that works for me, thanks again, it's much appreciated !
  • trogalicious
    trogalicious Posts: 4,584 Member
    @trog

    Hi, thanks for all the great reply I got a little new information, the only thing I can think of that is wrong really is maybe not eating enough calories and protein based on your response.
    I'll try the 6 week block and see how that works for me, thanks again, it's much appreciated !
    if you're not losing weight, you're not at a calorie deficit. You're eating more than you need to be, and more than you think you are.
    weight loss is calorie in VS calorie out. Protein won't make you lose weight, nor will fats... or carbs.

    how much you eat decides how much you weigh. what you eat can play a part in how full you feel, or if you're getting enough protein to maintain lean body bass while losing.

    Take a deeper look at your food logging.
  • @trog
    Isn't it possible to slow down your metabolism dramatically by not eating enough? I was also sure protein had an impact on how much you lost.
    I see your point and I'll try to make more of a deficit but I feel like I eat very little already so I'm quite hesitant to do that.
  • trogalicious
    trogalicious Posts: 4,584 Member
    @trog
    Isn't it possible to slow down your metabolism dramatically by not eating enough? I was also sure protein had an impact on how much you lost.
    I see your point and I'll try to make more of a deficit but I feel like I eat very little already so I'm quite hesitant to do that.
    are you weighing and logging everything you eat? everything?

    your diary is closed, so it's going to be really hard to give any other advice without more information.
  • @trog

    Yes, if I don't log onto online trackers I write it down, I only just opened this MFP account basically for the forum section so I haven't logged food onto it yet, I was using another website for that plus writing it down when I wasn't online.

    A basic day of what I eat would be like:

    Breakfast- organic gluten free cornflakes with 1 tbsp of stevia and almond milk, 1-3 pieces of fruit, soy yoghurt

    Snack- organic oat crackers with 20g of 100% nut butter

    Dinner- Vegan chicken nuggets ( high protein, fibre) cooked in either 1 cal spray or rapeseed oil , organic tomato ketchup (1-2 tbsp)

    Snack- Nuts / fruit /soy yoghurt
  • trogalicious
    trogalicious Posts: 4,584 Member
    @trog

    Yes, if I don't log onto online trackers I write it down, I only just opened this MFP account basically for the forum section so I haven't logged food onto it yet, I was using another website for that plus writing it down when I wasn't online.

    A basic day of what I eat would be like:

    Breakfast- organic gluten free cornflakes with 1 tbsp of stevia and almond milk, 1-3 pieces of fruit, soy yoghurt

    Snack- organic oat crackers with 20g of 100% nut butter

    Dinner- Vegan chicken nuggets ( high protein, fibre) cooked in either 1 cal spray or rapeseed oil , organic tomato ketchup (1-2 tbsp)

    Snack- Nuts / fruit /soy yoghurt

    try logging everything here for those 6 weeks and reassess :)
  • Okay, I'll try that , thanks for the advice.
  • theweezy
    theweezy Posts: 1 Member
    Wow, what an awesome post (referring to Trogalicious)! Thanks for all that advice - it should even help seasoned folks here :).