How have I only just realised how great low-carb is?!
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CICO is an awfully simplistic approach to a very complex subject. Bottom line CICO works. However, taking into consideration the variety of personal experiences where low-carb has *saved peoples lives*, it's awfully critical of you to dismiss OP's discovery.
When I low carb I experience a significant decrease in mood swings, hunger pangs and obsessive thoughts because my body doesn't like the blood-sugar roller coaster eating too many carbs has to offer.
Good for you, OP, for finding something that works for you!!!Unfortunately, my guess is that you will be skipping from diet to diet until you really do take the time to get the CICO figured out. The only thing special about low carb is that it lowers the number of calories going in (just like any other diet). That's it. Nothing more exciting about it than that.
The truth medicine to lose and maintain is found here:
http://www.acaloriecounter.com/blog/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/
Calories in vs. calories out trumps all "fad" diets.
*like* - there is plenty of science behind low carb helping those with any variety of insulin sensitivity issues (which a lot of overweight people probably have). Yes, at the end of the day CICO is key, but insulin spikes can also be a separate key for some.0 -
Can I just agree that low carb isn't a fad diet! I have pcos and I am on low carb and now its a way of life for me. I consider diets that you replace meals with silly milkshakes as fad diets because u going to live on shakes all your life... Nope so not a a sustainable lifestyle change x
And I'll just respectfully disagree with 'silly shakes for the rest of your life'. A lot of people incorporate a daily smoothie/shake into their lifelong diets. In fact, for me, it is a way for me to get all of the things I don't enjoy eating but know are good for my health into a tasty treat.
I think there is room for both silly shakes AND low carb in a lifelong eating plan
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Some people like to put others down, poo-poo on their success, or pretend that there's a one size fits method for how to loose weight - and in the diet world calling the other persons' method a "fad" seems to be the favored way to berate others.Can I just agree that low carb isn't a fad diet! I have pcos and I am on low carb and now its a way of life for me. I consider diets that you replace meals with silly milkshakes as fad diets because u going to live on shakes all your life... Nope so not a a sustainable lifestyle change x0 -
I have been dieting and detoxing and praying and starving and binge eating for about 8 years now.. And I have just come to the realisation that low-carb is absolutely heaven-sent. I don't know why I have over-looked this so much in the past! I can eat MAYONNAISE! What diet lets you eat mayonnaise? It started off as Paleo but I found it was way too expensive for me, and it seemed crazy trying to buy separate food for me and my daughter. I have saved £13 this week on groceries by going low-carb, and I have lost 2.3 KG / 5.07 LBS in just one week! Okay I know most of that is water but seriously I'm on such a high! I even ate Doritos and still managed to lose weight. I'm eating between 40-50g of carbs a day just to lose weight, and then when I hit my target, I can up that to 150g for maintenance, which is a ton of food. I can mix my diet up so much too with this which is what I like about it. I am eating tons of meat, vegetables, fruits, high-fat dairy etc. and the best part is I can "cheat" and not put on weight, I'm even baking a caramel chocolate cake with low-carbs! Who couldn't love this lifestyle?!
Just wanted to show my low-carb appreciation!! (Also I'm looking for new friends please, I didn't log on for a really long time and I seem to lost most of mine :sad: )
Unfortunately, my guess is that you will be skipping from diet to diet until you really do take the time to get the CICO figured out. The only thing special about low carb is that it lowers the number of calories going in (just like any other diet). That's it. Nothing more exciting about it than that.
The truth medicine to lose and maintain is found here:
http://www.acaloriecounter.com/blog/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/
Calories in vs. calories out trumps all "fad" diets.
really? last time I checked doctors were putting people on diets to regulate their blood sugars. people digest grains differently and that is a genetic factor you are ignoring. you can take two people with the same bmi, height , weight and have them eat the same diet and one will lose and one will gain. the same activities ect......... a lower carb diet is a balanced diet for many people. we have gigantic kids and they all have one thing in common..... massive carb consumption, not Fat, CARB consumption. we are the only "sedentary" country that recommends 250-300 g carbs a day. The Chinese as a whole tend to eat once, maybe twice a day. they burn what they eat and that's why high carbs are ok for them. we eat and eat and eat and eat some more. we do it because we are constantly hungry and food is always within our reach. Carbs are the culprit and study after study after study is proving it. many people eat so much in the way of carbs they would need to run a 5k everyday to break even calorie wise without being hungry. people need to stop looking at the fat content and more at the carbs.
They have one other thing in common. They are eating more than they burn. You kinda pointed that out with your Chinese comparison.0 -
I have been dieting and detoxing and praying and starving and binge eating for about 8 years now.. And I have just come to the realisation that low-carb is absolutely heaven-sent. I don't know why I have over-looked this so much in the past! I can eat MAYONNAISE! What diet lets you eat mayonnaise? It started off as Paleo but I found it was way too expensive for me, and it seemed crazy trying to buy separate food for me and my daughter. I have saved £13 this week on groceries by going low-carb, and I have lost 2.3 KG / 5.07 LBS in just one week! Okay I know most of that is water but seriously I'm on such a high! I even ate Doritos and still managed to lose weight. I'm eating between 40-50g of carbs a day just to lose weight, and then when I hit my target, I can up that to 150g for maintenance, which is a ton of food. I can mix my diet up so much too with this which is what I like about it. I am eating tons of meat, vegetables, fruits, high-fat dairy etc. and the best part is I can "cheat" and not put on weight, I'm even baking a caramel chocolate cake with low-carbs! Who couldn't love this lifestyle?!
Just wanted to show my low-carb appreciation!! (Also I'm looking for new friends please, I didn't log on for a really long time and I seem to lost most of mine :sad: )
Unfortunately, my guess is that you will be skipping from diet to diet until you really do take the time to get the CICO figured out. The only thing special about low carb is that it lowers the number of calories going in (just like any other diet). That's it. Nothing more exciting about it than that.
The truth medicine to lose and maintain is found here:
http://www.acaloriecounter.com/blog/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/
Calories in vs. calories out trumps all "fad" diets.
really? last time I checked doctors were putting people on diets to regulate their blood sugars. people digest grains differently and that is a genetic factor you are ignoring. you can take two people with the same bmi, height , weight and have them eat the same diet and one will lose and one will gain. the same activities ect......... a lower carb diet is a balanced diet for many people. we have gigantic kids and they all have one thing in common..... massive carb consumption, not Fat, CARB consumption. we are the only "sedentary" country that recommends 250-300 g carbs a day. The Chinese as a whole tend to eat once, maybe twice a day. they burn what they eat and that's why high carbs are ok for them. we eat and eat and eat and eat some more. we do it because we are constantly hungry and food is always within our reach. Carbs are the culprit and study after study after study is proving it. many people eat so much in the way of carbs they would need to run a 5k everyday to break even calorie wise without being hungry. people need to stop looking at the fat content and more at the carbs.
They have one other thing in common. They are eating more than they burn. You kinda pointed that out with your Chinese comparison.
Yeah, not sure what the point of all that is other than they "burn what they eat" and thus don't store the fat. Even if you're sedentary, you can get by with eating 250-300g of carbs provided your calories aren't excessive. Now if you eat and eat and eat some more with a high carb intake, you may want to alter the types of carbs you're eating or just reduce them altogether... but I still wouldn't say carbs are the culprit, a big appetite and lack of willpower are the culprit. If weight loss is your goal, do what works best to achieve a deficit.0 -
I recently started a low carb, low fat, low protein diet...i'm also losing weight very quickly....sorry to say, this is a recipe for disaster.0
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I recently started a low carb, low fat, low protein diet...i'm also losing weight very quickly....sorry to say, this is a recipe for disaster.
Yes, I can see why - you're starving yourself! At least that's what low carb, low protein and low fat in conjunction equate to. You need an adequate amount of protein from dietary sources, as well as energy in the form of either carbs or fat, or a combination of both. I would recommend doing some basic nutritional/ dietary homework before you do some serious damage with such a deprivation diet.
If you do opt for a more typical low carb diet, which tends to involve a moderate protein intake and high fat intake, you can expect to lose some weight quickly at the start, as by reducing your carbs, your body depletes its glycogen stores (internal carb energy reserve, effectively) and thus your body sheds the water those glycogen stores would have the body hang onto. Depending on your carb intake before low-carbing, and also your sodium intake, water weight losses up to 6/ 7 lbs can be quite normal in the first few weeks.0 -
I recently started a low carb, low fat, low protein diet...i'm also losing weight very quickly....sorry to say, this is a recipe for disaster.
Oooh are you doing Detox Water too?0 -
The apple diet is better.I recently started a low carb, low fat, low protein diet...i'm also losing weight very quickly....sorry to say, this is a recipe for disaster.
Oooh are you doing Detox Water too?0 -
No one will read this or listen to me but unless you have professional medical direction to do so, restricting one particular macronutrient (e.g. a low carb or low fat diet) is not a balanced or sustainable way to improve your body composition.
The way to lose fat is to burn more calories than you consume. That's it. If you only start losing weight after embarking upon the low carb path, it's because that's the first approach you've tried that reduced your calories consumed. You could do the same thing with a low protein or low fat diet.
With a low carb diet you'll have low energy levels, and your weight will drop deceptively fast at first as you deplete your muscles' reserves of glycogen and lose water. You will then find that you only lose weight at a rate depending on how much of a caloric deficit you have.
The reason many people think low fat and/or low carb diets are the key to losing weight is because most foods with carbohydrates and fat taste very good, and are easy to eat a lot of, and too much of, pulling you into caloric surplus territory. But, with even less discipline than is required for a low carb diet you can have a balanced diet and still lose weight.
Best of luck to you.0 -
No one will read this or listen to me but unless you have professional medical direction to do so, restricting one particular macronutrient (e.g. a low carb or low fat diet) is not a balanced or sustainable way to improve your body composition.
The way to lose fat is to burn more calories than you consume. That's it. If you only start losing weight after embarking upon the low carb path, it's because that's the first approach you've tried that reduced your calories consumed. You could do the same thing with a low protein or low fat diet.
With a low carb diet you'll have low energy levels, and your weight will drop deceptively fast at first as you deplete your muscles' reserves of glycogen and lose water. You will then find that you only lose weight at a rate depending on how much of a caloric deficit you have.
The reason many people think low fat and/or low carb diets are the key to losing weight is because most foods with carbohydrates and fat taste very good, and are easy to eat a lot of, and too much of, pulling you into caloric surplus territory. But, with even less discipline than is required for a low carb diet you can have a balanced diet and still lose weight.
Best of luck to you.
Since when is balance across macronutrients in and of itself meaningful in any way? You don't need balanced quantities of each, but rather you need sufficient amounts of the various nutrients and those amounts vary quite a bit across the board. As for low energy, I suspect you're just repeating what you've heard but generally speaking not everyone has low energy on a low carb diet, particularly when it's done correctly and for a sufficiently lengthy period of time. You then go on to acknowledge the satiating nature of a low carb diet and how that can help you achieve a caloric deficit, but then for some reason dismiss it. That high satiation is one of the primary advantages to low carb diets and that alone is a reason for people with big appetites to at least consider cutting back carbs on a cut. That's particularly true since your bit about low energy is a falsity, macronutrient balance is meaningless and the notion that your specific macros on a cut have to be "sustainable indefinitely" is BS.
There are downsides to these diets, namely they're very restrictive and you may need to adjust your carb intake somewhat depending on your exercise routine, but the disadvantages you listed are either myths or they simply aren't accurate.0 -
Some people are genetically "coded" to be insulin resistant, like me. I have a blood panel performed by my doctor quarterly and genetic testing for insulin resistance is included in that 10 page report.
For folks with that same genetic trait, that means eating low carb helps me to lose weight and stay healthy. Sound like you may have the same gene. You might ask your physician about confirming that.0 -
OP if you get a chance check out the Dukan Diet materials. It's essentially a low carb low sugar with high protein and I have lost 60 lbs with it in 5 months and feel great. I get my protein from lean meats and low fat dairy and eat vegetables and don't have issues with low energy or hunger.0
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I'm trying Carbohydrate Addict's. 4 carbs or less for breakfast and lunch, and whatever for dinner (as long as it's eaten within one hour). I FEEL good, but've only lost 7 lbs in a month
I have lost all faith in humanity.0 -
I totally want Mac&Cheese after reading this.0
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Wow! So many opinions!
To the haters - Thank you for taking the time out to share your thoughts. I know it's just concerns that you have and it's nice people still look out for one another.
To the lovers - Thank you for your support and all your information you've given on this! I am steadily losing a kilo a week and this is honestly the first time in years that the scales have actually moved. I have my confidence back and I'm doing really well. And it's because I have support from you guys, so thank you!!0 -
bait must be low carb0
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Low carb "works" for me every time I try it, but I have never been able to maintain that way of life.0
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As someone who has been on keto for over a year, I agree! Don't listen to the low-carb haters. They do this to ANYONE who DARES to eat differently than they do.0
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Fascinating. I find the opposite. I'm not particularly low carb at all, but if I eat meat and veg I'm pretty well satisfied. When I eat BREAD I find that I'm starving all the time.When I was low-carbing, I did lose some weight, but I was starving all the time. I would eat two large portions of meat, and two servings of steamed veggies and a salad every meal, and still be hungry. And the meats weren't all lean, and I was using butter on my veggies, and oil on my salad, so it wasn't a lack of fats. I found it very unsustainable for that reason.0 -
It's NOT a fad diet. I was going to comment on this as well.Can I just agree that low carb isn't a fad diet! I have pcos and I am on low carb and now its a way of life for me. I consider diets that you replace meals with silly milkshakes as fad diets because u going to live on shakes all your life... Nope so not a a sustainable lifestyle change x0 -
Low carb is a truly amazing lifestyle! The 29th of this month will be my 11 month anniversary of low carb living. I have lost 110 pounds and completely reversed all my health problems including major depression, sleep apnea, and fibromyalgia!
The only time low carb is a fad diet is when a person makes it one. OP, this will work if you stay committed and let it work!0 -
Oh btw, I went from a size 20 to a size 4 and am maintening there! I have also dropped my bmi from 40.1 to 23!0
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it is amazing, isn't it? sugar is the worst. I eat 50% of my cals in fat. I don't do red meat or pork, instead I eat lots of eggs, coconut oil, nuts, etc.
best I've ever looked. congrats for finding what works for you!0 -
I AM a carb, so i get extremely grumpy on this diet and quit. and there are more calories in fat (and in alcohol) than carbs, so for CICO I go low fat instead. but I'm glad to hear you are able to stick with it!0
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Please don't think that "low carb" means to reduce the amount of WHEAT you eat.
Go to youTube to hear Dr. Davis, a cardiologist,
talk about his findings in the book, 'Wheat Belly',
or read the wheatbellyblog.com.
Before you scoff, go check out my recommendations!0 -
Hey, hey - keep it down. The low-carb haters will just declare this all in your head, not something real.Low carb is a truly amazing lifestyle! The 29th of this month will be my 11 month anniversary of low carb living. I have lost 110 pounds and completely reversed all my health problems including major depression, sleep apnea, and fibromyalgia!
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When I was low-carbing, I did lose some weight, but I was starving all the time. I would eat two large portions of meat, and two servings of steamed veggies and a salad every meal, and still be hungry. And the meats weren't all lean, and I was using butter on my veggies, and oil on my salad, so it wasn't a lack of fats. I found it very unsustainable for that reason.
This is contrary to almost every other post in this thread and to the concepts of low-carb diets in general...how much fat were you eating? Honestly curious.0 -
Yeah, loving the low carb too, although I do wonder how quickly some of that water weight will go back on once I relax the carb intake a little, as I see myself maintaining my weight on a moderate carb/ protein/ fat diet when I lose the unwanted pounds I wish to. I was a big carb eater before, usually decent complex carbs, so I imagine on moderate carb I will regain about half the water weight I lost. Ah, something to worry about down the line
By the way, I don't see how CICO (calories in, calories out) invalidates a low carb approach, as the way I see it low carb is simply a good way to maintain a calorie deficit as most peoples calorie intakes will drop by cutting out a decent portion of carbs, most of which are filler foods anyway in my opinion (added sugar, bread, and also grains to an extent). Also, dismissing low carb as a fad is a tad facetious in my opinion, as it is simply one of three very basic diet types (high carb/moderate protein/low fat, moderate carb/moderate protein/moderate fat, and low carb/moderate protein/high fat), and hardly a fad.
Also my personal opinion and experience after dabbling in low carb for almost 2 months now (with all the progress indicated in my below ticker), is that controlling the balance between carbs and fat in your diet (your bodies 2 main energy sources), is a very effective way of moderating and maintaining your intake without suffering from deprivation and requiring copious amounts of willpower to make it through each day without slipping.
Its also my personal belief that if more people understood the power of this dietary lever, they would probably have the most valuable tool they could have, to maintain any weight loss, as well as to manipulate their weight should/ when they need to. Also, I say that as someone who lost 70lbs the high carb/ moderate protein/ low fat way, and kept it off for about 7 years. Somehow I think I shall be keeping the regained 38lbs of that 70lbs loss off, once I lose it this time
Exactement!!! 33 pounds lost in just over two months, eating delicious, varied foods, cooking things up daily in the kitchen and not feeling like I'm going to gnaw off my own arm. When I first got into ketosis, it almost felt like I was living in an alternate reality...everything seemed clearer, sharper...I'm in this for the long haul and count the mental health benefits right up there with the physical health benefits.0
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