How do i stop binge eating

I binge eat so badly 5/6 days a week. I'll eat 3000-4000 calories a day, 2000 or so of them in one sitting. I don't know what to do anymore.
I have an array of mental health problems from anxiety, depression and disorded eating but this is just getting me so down.
I have no self control and it makes me feel weak.

an example of today is i came home from work absolutely fine and had beans on toast for lunch, then i thought i'd treat myself to a cookie and that should have been fine but then i went and got another... and another, until the whole pack had gone but it didn't stop there i also in the space of these twenty minutes had big two bowls of porridge with chocolate, half a punnet of grapes and a slice of chocolate cake. i think it's disgusting but i can't stop.

what can i do to help with this? i've gotten so desperate now. i used to eat 2000 calories a day so easy but i just snapped over night a few months back and i feel helpless.
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  • LoraF83
    LoraF83 Posts: 15,694 Member
    You need to talk to your doctor. He or she should be able to refer you to a specialist or treatment center that can help you with your issues.

    Treatment is your best option to move forward. While you may find support and advice on the internet, nothing can compare to having a professional guide you.

    Good luck on your recovery. :flowerforyou:
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    You need to talk to your doctor. He or she should be able to refer you to a specialist or treatment center that can help you with your issues.

    Treatment is your best option to move forward. While you may find support and advice on the internet, nothing can compare to having a professional guide you.

    Good luck on your recovery. :flowerforyou:
    ^THIS!!
  • Jetta_C
    Jetta_C Posts: 58
    Don't keep "packages" of things at home. If you want a cookie, go to a bakery and get just one. Another thing you might try is challenging yourself, just for a short period of time (like 3 days) to only eat in public. Binging is a private act (trust me, I know) and you will be aware of people around you when you eat in public (they are probably not staring at you but you might feel as though they are) and this can help stop a binge.

    I notice, when you list your binge foods, they are mostly starchy. Have you tried a lower carb diet? For people very sensitive to carbs, a starchy meal like beans and toast can set up an "I want more!" reaction.

    Finally, another thing I have done when I have bad cravings and think I might binge is tell myself "Ok, it is 1:30 right now. I am going to wait twenty minutes and then, if I still want that food, I will have it then." Then I go off and do other things and, often, once I am truly distracted with another activity, I forget the craving.

    Hope these ideas help :)
  • ingehooper
    ingehooper Posts: 37 Member
    I struggle too. In fact last night I cleaned my kitchen and living room and had peppermint tea to not eat the tub of chocolate spread stirred into porridge oats (my comfort meal!) I felt so anxious about it and told myself no eating past a certain time and that helped, I suffer with depression and anxiety too, so know how you feel x I second not buying packs of things, If i have a multi pack of something I will eat all the packs!
  • marissanik
    marissanik Posts: 344 Member
    Also agree with talking to a doctor or specialist. You're not going to stop just because a few people on the message boards of mfp tell you to. Love yourself because you're #1 in your own life. You can do this!!
  • LifeWithPie
    LifeWithPie Posts: 552 Member
    You posted almost the same thing about a month ago. Was the advice then not helpful? No one here is able to fix this for you, they can only give advice, which you've already been given..which is...seek professional counseling.

    I wish you well.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    A therapist who specializes in eating disorders may be able to help you sort this out. They'll help you figure out if you have a problem or not and can help you go through your weight loss journey.

    You don't have to do it alone.
  • bethanyka
    bethanyka Posts: 159 Member
    You are not alone. I had/have such similar issues and I can very much relate.

    Just a suggestion, I have recently read this book: "How to Have Your Cake and Your Skinny Jeans Too: Stop Binge Eating, Overeating and Dieting For Good Get the Naturally Thin Body You Crave From the Inside Out (Binge Eating Solution Book 1) " By Josie Spinardi. I got it on Amazon, read it over a few days, took notes and really let it sink in... The concepts very much clicked with me, I have re-read sections and I feel so, so much better about my relationship with food. A sigh of relief for me, it's opened my eyes SO much about WHAT/ WHEN/ WHY i'm bingeing. Once it really clicked with me, I felt I felt a shift inside and haven't had that urge to eat in that manner. It might not help everyone, but it helped me a lot so I wanted to share.
  • astroophys
    astroophys Posts: 175 Member
    You are not alone. I had/have such similar issues and I can very much relate.

    Just a suggestion, I have recently read this book: "How to Have Your Cake and Your Skinny Jeans Too: Stop Binge Eating, Overeating and Dieting For Good Get the Naturally Thin Body You Crave From the Inside Out (Binge Eating Solution Book 1) " By Josie Spinardi. I got it on Amazon, read it over a few days, took notes and really let it sink in... The concepts very much clicked with me, I have re-read sections and I feel so, so much better about my relationship with food. A sigh of relief for me, it's opened my eyes SO much about WHAT/ WHEN/ WHY i'm bingeing. Once it really clicked with me, I felt I felt a shift inside and haven't had that urge to eat in that manner. It might not help everyone, but it helped me a lot so I wanted to share.

    I second this book. After two decades of binge eating (I started as a kid), this book has been the first thing to help me make significant changes.
  • CaitySins
    CaitySins Posts: 57 Member
    It sounds really negative, but I've stopped myself (so far) from gorging by mentally saying any time I want extra "You're too fat to eat that". Then I try to fill up on water. Are you sure you're eating enough, period? If your body's in starvation mode it'll make you want to eat a lot. As for the biscuits, the reality may be to just stop buying "bad" foods and load your kitchen with healthy snacks, fruits and veg. That way when you're in a binge, you have no choice but to guzzle down apples.
  • TheFrugalFatass
    TheFrugalFatass Posts: 58 Member
    First of all, you have made a great first step by admitting that your eating is out of control and is making your life unmanageable. I am proud of you for reaching out for help.

    I am in recovery for binge eating disorder. What helped me was narrowing down what foods can send me into a binge and then eliminating them. I'm not talking about eliminating them forever. I'm just talking about not eating them today. You can worry about tomorrow when tomorrow rolls around. The two things that will absolutely trigger a binge for me are sweets and potato chips. Today, I won't eat them. I don't know if I will eat them tomorrow; I can only think about today.

    Another thing that has helped me is the concept of H.A.L.T. If I choose to eat outside of regular meals, I take a minute to stop and think about why I'm going to eat. Am I truly hungry?(That's the H.) Is my stomach rumbling? If it's not, I'm probably one of the other three things: Angry, Lonely, or Tired. If I'm angry, what works for me is walking or journaling. If I'm lonely, I try to get out of the house or text a friend. If I'm tired, I nap at the first opportunity (or go to bed, if it's past my bedtime).

    I would also suggest looking into Overeaters Anonymous. Meetings are sometimes hard to find (they're not as abundant as AA meetings), but there are online options available. www.oa.org

    Friend me if you'd like. I've been there.
  • TheFrugalFatass
    TheFrugalFatass Posts: 58 Member
    It sounds really negative, but I've stopped myself (so far) from gorging by mentally saying any time I want extra "You're too fat to eat that". Then I try to fill up on water. Are you sure you're eating enough, period? If your body's in starvation mode it'll make you want to eat a lot. As for the biscuits, the reality may be to just stop buying "bad" foods and load your kitchen with healthy snacks, fruits and veg. That way when you're in a binge, you have no choice but to guzzle down apples.

    :(

    This post breaks my heart. It *is* "really negative." How would you feel if your best friend or mother or significant other told you "you're too fat to eat that? How would you feel if a perfect stranger told you that? Certainly you deserve to treat yourself with at least as much dignity and respect as you'd expect from a complete stranger.
  • bethanyka
    bethanyka Posts: 159 Member
    I 100% agree with assessing, WHY am i eating ? Hungry? Angry ? Lonely? Tired ? , etc.
    It makes you see... that such a huge % of eating is when you are not even hungry. that , in itself, is eye-opening.

    However, "good" vs. "bad" foods, and being constantly on a restrictive "diet" are major root causes of binge eating.
    In a binge, I could eat 20 things INSTEAD of eating the ONE thing I really wanted because I felt that one thing was "off limits". So competely avoiding foods you love will cause an increased, healthy obsession with dieting and food, all leading to binges.

    Again, I'm referencing the book I mentioned ^ above.

    As others have said, don't feel alone and don't beat yourself up if you aren't 100% perfect. it won't help.
    if you need to talk to someone, seek help. There are ways to see this through, and when you realize that most of the problem is inside your mind , it becomes very much more manageable.

    Good luck! Hang in there.

    Bethany
  • TheFrugalFatass
    TheFrugalFatass Posts: 58 Member
    However, "good" vs. "bad" foods, and being constantly on a restrictive "diet" are major root causes of binge eating.
    In a binge, I could eat 20 things INSTEAD of eating the ONE thing I really wanted because I felt that one thing was "off limits". So competely avoiding foods you love will cause an increased, healthy obsession with dieting and food, all leading to binges.

    For you, maybe. And that's great if that works for you. In my case, this would absolutely NOT work. Would you ever tell an alcoholic,
    "Well, just drink that beer if that's what you really want" or a drug addict, "Well, just shoot up that heroin if that's what you really want."? Telling someone like me to "just eat it if that's what you want," is exactly like giving an alcoholic a beer or a drug addict a crack pipe. Just like an alcoholic is physically and mentally unable to drink alcohol in moderation, I am physically and mentally unable to eat sweets in moderation. It is an issue of chemical imbalance, not an issue of "willpower." Perhaps for the OP, your method will work. However, please don't pooh-pooh the very REAL issue of being chemically addicted to certain foods.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    It sounds really negative, but I've stopped myself (so far) from gorging by mentally saying any time I want extra "You're too fat to eat that". Then I try to fill up on water. Are you sure you're eating enough, period? If your body's in starvation mode it'll make you want to eat a lot. As for the biscuits, the reality may be to just stop buying "bad" foods and load your kitchen with healthy snacks, fruits and veg. That way when you're in a binge, you have no choice but to guzzle down apples.

    :(

    This post breaks my heart. It *is* "really negative." How would you feel if your best friend or mother or significant other told you "you're too fat to eat that? How would you feel if a perfect stranger told you that? Certainly you deserve to treat yourself with at least as much dignity and respect as you'd expect from a complete stranger.

    If it works for her, why not?

    I second the 'not buying too many trigger foods'.

    I'll add that I stop see saw eating when I eat properly to maintenance and include small amounts of treats.

    I will be tough on myself though, like, nope, you're not going to be able to fit in those jeans, or run fast, if you eat that. Your *kitten* will get fat again. It's true. It will.
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    - Set realistic caloric goals. You should be eating less than what you burn daily but not too little. This will push you towards overeating. Here is a good thread to help you figure out how much to eat: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets

    - Don't deny yourself something. I have learned that if I try to go on some crazy diet where I am not allowed junk food or carbs or sugar or something, I endup binging. A good rule for me is to keep 10-20% of my daily calories set aside for junk food.

    - Log, log, log. Log everything. The more you get into the habit of logging everyday, the more you will be in control of your eating habits. Log the good, the bad, the ugly. Eventually your mind will work things out and you will start seeing how much calories certain foods contains and you will avoid it automatically. Also, that nasty red negative number helps keep you in check too :)
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    However, "good" vs. "bad" foods, and being constantly on a restrictive "diet" are major root causes of binge eating.
    In a binge, I could eat 20 things INSTEAD of eating the ONE thing I really wanted because I felt that one thing was "off limits". So competely avoiding foods you love will cause an increased, healthy obsession with dieting and food, all leading to binges.

    For you, maybe. And that's great if that works for you. In my case, this would absolutely NOT work. Would you ever tell an alcoholic,
    "Well, just drink that beer if that's what you really want" or a drug addict, "Well, just shoot up that heroin if that's what you really want."? Telling someone like me to "just eat it if that's what you want," is exactly like giving an alcoholic a beer or a drug addict a crack pipe. Just like an alcoholic is physically and mentally unable to drink alcohol in moderation, I am physically and mentally unable to eat sweets in moderation. It is an issue of chemical imbalance, not an issue of "willpower." Perhaps for the OP, your method will work. However, please don't pooh-pooh the very REAL issue of being chemically addicted to certain foods.

    Nope. You have one opinion. It is not based in fact. You're wrong, sorry.

    The worse thing AA NA OA does us take away the power to learn moderation. It can be learned in the absence of physical dependancy. There is no proof at all of a physical dependancy on food.

    I'm an ex binger/restrictor. I've learned moderation through eating sufficient calories and massive self control.

    I'm not saying all eating disorders can be tamed like this, but mine was.
  • wapan
    wapan Posts: 219 Member
    I find accurate logging after the fact is an effective way to curb the binges. And keeping the food out of the house is also good. Last night I had dinner at a friend's house. This is usually a trigger (an eating situation I cannot control) but when I got home, there was no binge food, just some cheese strings and greek yogurt. I had a glass of water and 1 cheese string, watched an episode of the Mindy Project and woke up 1 lb lighter. :-) I know it feels like you are out of control and possibly broken, but you are not. Its just logging and kindness to yourself (as in, "I won't do that again now that i know how much calories are in that food and wow that did not feel good). The good thing about a binge is that it gives you an opportunity to assess where you are in life. (Like the HALT method another poster mentioned above.) I really recommend calling a friend and vented about your big feelings (even happiness or excitement) before turning to food to calm yourself down.)

    And of course as the posters above recommended, it would be good to get a counsellor to work issues through. I saw a great therapist and we focussed on self-esteem and self-care mechanisms. It does get better!
  • eggomylegos
    eggomylegos Posts: 146 Member
    what can i do to help with this? i've gotten so desperate now. i used to eat 2000 calories a day so easy but i just snapped over night a few months back and i feel helpless.

    You mentioned that you suffer from mental health problems. If you are already seeing a therapist, please open up to them about your struggle with this problem. If you are not seeing a therapist, please find one.

    At the very least, find a trusted friend or family member to talk about this with. Hiding the shame of binging allows the cycle of emotional eating to continue. There are so many people out there who have been exactly where you are now. You don't have to go through this alone.
  • LauraPa1mer
    LauraPa1mer Posts: 65 Member
    Speaking from experience, things that really helped me were:

    * Making sure that I did drink 8 glasses of water a day. It is included in every weight loss strategy for a reason! It makes you feel full and within a few days you will notice you aren't as hungry.
    * Increasing my fat and protein intake!!! Originally I was eating 1200 calories a day but always feeling hungry because a lot of my calories were coming from carbs. After I adjusted my macros to higher fat/protein and lower carb, I am fuller and not spending the entire evening listening to my stomach grumble!

    Obviously everyone is different but those are two things which worked well for me.
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  • elisa123gal
    elisa123gal Posts: 4,324 Member
    I do not binge…but I also never keep any binging food in my home. Why would someone wanting to lose weight have cookies, ice cream… chocolate around? The food you buy and put in your home is the food you are going to eat. period.
  • bethanyka
    bethanyka Posts: 159 Member
    Yes. Agree. ^ as to comparing food binge eating with drugs (alcohol included) --- AA, OA, NA., taking away the concept of moderation is what makes that person "never able to step foot near XYZ" we can't live our lives that way.
    Bottom line, I can't rely on 100% willpower 24/ 7 - to give up over-eating., drugs, etc.
    Deprivation and saying "off limits" is the very downfall of so many diets/ recoveries.
    You have to battle the root cause. if you figure that out, you won't have to rely on saying "no"
    ... Wouldn't you love to say "no" to over-eating just because you simply DO NOT WANT to over eat ? And NOT because you are mentally/physically FORCING yourself to say "NO" ??
  • wuggums47
    wuggums47 Posts: 25 Member
    I've found that there are only two things that can stop me from eating to much. The first is to buy less food, and buy next to no unhealthy food. If I buy unhealthy food, I don't get a whole pack, because that means the whole pack will be showing on my hips. If I want ice cream, I don't get a bucket, I get a pint or less.

    The other thing that I've found helps is to change the way you think about food. Realize that if you don't eat right now, you can always eat later. Food will still be there in a few hours when it's actually time to eat. Also, it's easy to think of hunger as a bad thing. But if you start thinking of it as an edge, it's not so bad. You should only eat when you are actually hungry. Odds are if you're like me you eat when you're bored, or you eat when you want to taste food. That has to stop if you want to be healthier.

    Oh and I just remembered another thing, try drinking plain water when you feel like you want to eat. It will fill your stomach up for a little bit, and for me at least it helps. If you try to substitute going to the kitchen for food to going to the kitchen for water or unsweetened tea, it will be replacing an unhealthy habit with a healthier one.
  • CouchToHealthy
    CouchToHealthy Posts: 14 Member
    hi, i know where your coming from. i do exactly the same. this morning i went to the local bakery and had a sausage sandwich and a cake. then at lunch i had a pre-packed sandwich, gronola yogurt, a piece of cake and a monster energy drink. i've just had another piece of cake and for my tea i'm having shepherds pie that i will probably have chips and gravy with.
    I think i'm going to have to start buying fruit instead of cake but i have such a sweet tooth i find it so hard to say no.
    If you find a way forward please let me know :smile:
  • bethanyka
    bethanyka Posts: 159 Member
    buying fruit instead of cake might help you in the short run.
    but in the long term, you have realized there is a problem and you have to find a solution, not a band-aid.
    I've been there, so many of us have been there. there has to be a change in the relationship with food.

    everyone is different. what works for one might not work for the next, i understand that.
    seeking therapy, or some kind of support is the only thing that had helped me.
    self help books can be truly amazing if you really let them sink in.
  • itsbasschick
    itsbasschick Posts: 1,584 Member
    i never bring the package, box or carton of food when i want to eat - i bring a serving only. i found i couldn't stop eating when more food was right in front of me. and i haven't been able to have my favorite ice cream (dryer's slow churned moose tracks, no sugar) in the house, as it calls to me from the freezer :D

    but what's worked for me (and it's been like a miracle) since may 1 is that i decided to let myself obsess about things. i love fitness equipment and cameras, and i read reviews, go see them at stores, i've done tons of comparisons and when i feel like eating just to eat, i have a single square of sees chocolate and sit down to research and read more about my passions. it's the first time i've been able to keep from binging in years.
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  • CouchToHealthy
    CouchToHealthy Posts: 14 Member
    Is this book available in paper form? I wouldn't mind reading it myself but i can only find it on the internet in kindle form.