sexual harssament at work?

dapp25
dapp25 Posts: 62 Member
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hey guys, bit of a strange one here but here goes:

so a girl i work with at work last week recieved couple of emails saying along the lines of "your so hot i love seeing you at work, i carnt stop looking at you" etc like its a bit stalker ish like... she didnt know who it was from then she got a couple more emails but this time they had his name at the bottom wich is a manager from work, shes freaked out by it and has asked to not be on shift when he is and shes tried complaining but no1 is really doing anything... is thier really nothing that can be done...

also he tried calling her yesterday... so hes obtained her email address and mobile number via work database too is this allowed?

TIA

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  • Morgan5647
    Morgan5647 Posts: 598 Member
    Manager sounds like a tool!
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  • dapp25
    dapp25 Posts: 62 Member
    he is lol, want to go about it in an official manner before going crazy on his *kitten* lol
  • smarieallen85
    smarieallen85 Posts: 535 Member
    No, you should leave her alone. She doesn't want you.

    hehe.

    On a more serious note, she should tell the higher ups.
  • MsBetteDavis
    MsBetteDavis Posts: 118 Member
    So I work in a civil law firm and that manager should 100% know better. This is absolutely grounds for a civil suit. He should know that he could be sued. So there's one option for her (if she wanted to take it that far).

    Absolutely tell her to go to a higher up about it. Do you have an HR department? That's where you should go to first. Did she delete that email with his name in it (and the previous ones)? If not, tell her right now to print them off and give them to HR (or the head manager if she has to go there instead). She should definitely keep copies as well for her own records.

    Sexual harassment is serious and if he went so far as to take her personal information from her work file, he has crossed multiple lines here.
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  • 365andstillalive
    365andstillalive Posts: 663 Member
    What he's doing is definitely harassment and illegal.
    I'm Canadian, but under our laws, while what he's doing is out of bounds, she also needs to express that the attention is unwanted to have a strong case, but she needs to speak to HR or file a formal complaint with another manager ASAP.
    That he's obtained her email and phone number from the work database for non-work purposes without her permission is also against the law in many places.
    If the company doesn't have an HR department or she's concerned for her job/safety if she files a complain internally, she then needs to place the complaint with the labour board.
  • WickedPineapple
    WickedPineapple Posts: 698 Member
    So I work in a civil law firm and that manager should 100% know better. This is absolutely grounds for a civil suit. He should know that he could be sued. So there's one option for her (if she wanted to take it that far).

    Absolutely tell her to go to a higher up about it. Do you have an HR department? That's where you should go to first. Did she delete that email with his name in it (and the previous ones)? If not, tell her right now to print them off and give them to HR (or the head manager if she has to go there instead). She should definitely keep copies as well for her own records.

    Sexual harassment is serious and if he went so far as to take her personal information from her work file, he has crossed multiple lines here.

    ^ All this. She should keep all the evidence (even after giving to HR), just in case. This kind of behavior has no place in the work environment.
  • willrun4bagels
    willrun4bagels Posts: 838 Member
    So I work in a civil law firm and that manager should 100% know better. This is absolutely grounds for a civil suit. He should know that he could be sued. So there's one option for her (if she wanted to take it that far).

    Absolutely tell her to go to a higher up about it. Do you have an HR department? That's where you should go to first. Did she delete that email with his name in it (and the previous ones)? If not, tell her right now to print them off and give them to HR (or the head manager if she has to go there instead). She should definitely keep copies as well for her own records.

    Sexual harassment is serious and if he went so far as to take her personal information from her work file, he has crossed multiple lines here.

    ^This. I work in management/HR. He, personally, can be sued.

    Were the emails sent from a work email address, or a personal email address (and, to her work email address, or was it her personal contact info that was taken from the database without her permission - i.e., her non-work related cell# and email address??) That is an even bigger no no.

    Make sure she documents everything. Screenshots / etc.

    Had another thought: Could it be someone pretending to be said manager? If it was this person, why would he write his name at the bottom of the emails? Doesn't make sense if they really were coming from him, I think.
  • dmarsh1018
    dmarsh1018 Posts: 70 Member
    If it weren't for sexual harassment at work I wouldn't be engaged right now!

    But seriously, creepy! Apparently he didn't watch the sexual harassment training video I had to watch at work...
  • dapp25
    dapp25 Posts: 62 Member
    So I work in a civil law firm and that manager should 100% know better. This is absolutely grounds for a civil suit. He should know that he could be sued. So there's one option for her (if she wanted to take it that far).

    Absolutely tell her to go to a higher up about it. Do you have an HR department? That's where you should go to first. Did she delete that email with his name in it (and the previous ones)? If not, tell her right now to print them off and give them to HR (or the head manager if she has to go there instead). She should definitely keep copies as well for her own records.

    Sexual harassment is serious and if he went so far as to take her personal information from her work file, he has crossed multiple lines here.

    ^This. I work in management/HR. He, personally, can be sued.

    Were the emails sent from a work email address, or a personal email address (and, to her work email address, or was it her personal contact info that was taken from the database without her permission - i.e., her non-work related cell# and email address??) That is an even bigger no no.

    Make sure she documents everything. Screenshots / etc.

    she showed me the emails afew days ago so im sure she has them all still (like 5 in total) she told 2 other managers which both said thiers nothing they can do basicly, thats why iv come to ask on here, seems proper strange that nothing can be done... the emails are to her personal email (which once again im assuming he found from work) and i carnt remeber if thier from his work or personal address though

    thanks for all the replys people :)
  • dapp25
    dapp25 Posts: 62 Member
    So I work in a civil law firm and that manager should 100% know better. This is absolutely grounds for a civil suit. He should know that he could be sued. So there's one option for her (if she wanted to take it that far).

    Absolutely tell her to go to a higher up about it. Do you have an HR department? That's where you should go to first. Did she delete that email with his name in it (and the previous ones)? If not, tell her right now to print them off and give them to HR (or the head manager if she has to go there instead). She should definitely keep copies as well for her own records.

    Sexual harassment is serious and if he went so far as to take her personal information from her work file, he has crossed multiple lines here.

    ^This. I work in management/HR. He, personally, can be sued.

    Were the emails sent from a work email address, or a personal email address (and, to her work email address, or was it her personal contact info that was taken from the database without her permission - i.e., her non-work related cell# and email address??) That is an even bigger no no.

    Make sure she documents everything. Screenshots / etc.

    Had another thought: Could it be someone pretending to be said manager? If it was this person, why would he write his name at the bottom of the emails? Doesn't make sense if they really were coming from him, I think.

    na im quite sure its him, plus the phone call from him.. she answerd heard it was him then hung up straight away
  • MsBetteDavis
    MsBetteDavis Posts: 118 Member
    So I work in a civil law firm and that manager should 100% know better. This is absolutely grounds for a civil suit. He should know that he could be sued. So there's one option for her (if she wanted to take it that far).

    Absolutely tell her to go to a higher up about it. Do you have an HR department? That's where you should go to first. Did she delete that email with his name in it (and the previous ones)? If not, tell her right now to print them off and give them to HR (or the head manager if she has to go there instead). She should definitely keep copies as well for her own records.

    Sexual harassment is serious and if he went so far as to take her personal information from her work file, he has crossed multiple lines here.

    ^This. I work in management/HR. He, personally, can be sued.

    Were the emails sent from a work email address, or a personal email address (and, to her work email address, or was it her personal contact info that was taken from the database without her permission - i.e., her non-work related cell# and email address??) That is an even bigger no no.

    Make sure she documents everything. Screenshots / etc.

    she showed me the emails afew days ago so im sure she has them all still (like 5 in total) she told 2 other managers which both said thiers nothing they can do basicly, thats why iv come to ask on here, seems proper strange that nothing can be done... the emails are to her personal email (which once again im assuming he found from work) and i carnt remeber if thier from his work or personal address though

    thanks for all the replys people :)

    Frankly they're lying. They should know better as well. And at this point, if they refuse to do nothing then they, or the company, could also be sued. It is their responsibility to properly handle employees and deal with any form of harassment at work and for them to not do so is negligent.

    I agree with an above poster. If she gives the evidence to someone higher up and nothing is done, contact the labour board and hand copies of the emails over and explain the situation to them. She could also look around for pro-bono lawyers in your area, or any office that does free consultations.

    They can give her more information regarding the specific sexual harassment in the workplace laws from where you live.
  • bugaboo_sue
    bugaboo_sue Posts: 552 Member
    If the managers won't do anything about it she needs to go to HR. If HR doesn't do anything about it then she needs to go to the EEOC.
  • daydreams_of_pretty
    daydreams_of_pretty Posts: 506 Member
    Is there anyone above the people she's talked to already? She needs to tell them it's creating a hostile work environment. If your workplace is in any way corporate, the higher ups will react if she says that it's a hostile work environment because that's code for "I could totally sue you for this."
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    You're in England.

    I'd guess that most of the replies have been from Americans or Canadians.

    As such, the replies you've gotten may not mean much (if anything), as your laws sometimes differ greatly from ours.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    she showed me the emails afew days ago so im sure she has them all still (like 5 in total) she told 2 other managers which both said thiers nothing they can do basicly, thats why iv come to ask on here, seems proper strange that nothing can be done... the emails are to her personal email (which once again im assuming he found from work) and i carnt remeber if thier from his work or personal address though

    thanks for all the replys people :)

    she if she can get an email from them saying as such- more ammuniction- because they are 100% incorrect.

    If you're a manager and you can't control you're people you shouldn't be doing the job you are doing- since that's YOUR ONLY EFFING JOB ... not even considering the whole civil suit issue (which it is)

    so see if they can get it in writing.
  • TriNoob
    TriNoob Posts: 96 Member
    Question: Has she made a written complaint to the manager's boss?

    If not, she needs to. If she has, and they still do nothing, she needs to take it to an employment tribunal (lulz at the people applying American law) or go to the Citizens Advice Bureau.
  • MsBetteDavis
    MsBetteDavis Posts: 118 Member
    You're in England.

    I'd guess that most of the replies have been from Americans or Canadians.

    As such, the replies you've gotten may not mean much (if anything), as your laws sometimes differ greatly from ours.

    Actually, I am from Canada and our law system is based on British Common Law. So it still applies. I'm certain there is some form of labour board where she is.
  • dapp25
    dapp25 Posts: 62 Member
    Is there anyone above the people she's talked to already? She needs to tell them it's creating a hostile work environment. If your workplace is in any way corporate, the higher ups will react if she says that it's a hostile work environment because that's code for "I could totally sue you for this."

    shes spoken to the 2nd and 3rd manager in command at our branch, the general manager is currently away so i think shes waiting now for them to return and to tell them... but at this rate think she needs to go HR, seems BS about this at my place... will try and get a copy of what was actually said in the email too later

    thanks all

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