Shakeology?

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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    ok. I use shakeology daily. This is probably my favorite thing ever. No, its not overpriced. the way I see it, I could either be paying for a bunch of food to make up a breakfast, or I could be paying for this shake. its not junk, its done wonders for me. If you are interested in learning more about it let me know! I'm more than willing to help you figure out if its worth your money!

    A dozen eggs and a package of bacon costs around $5 and covers breakfast for 3 days.
    A package of chicken and several cans of vegetables costs $12 and covers lunch for an entire week.
    A bag of potatoes costs $5 and lasts 3-4 weeks.

    With your beachbody coach discount a single shake costs you $3.32.

    Explain how that isn't over priced.

    did i ever say it wasn't overpriced? nope i think the cost is absolutely ****ing ridiculous. but it works for ME. im not worried about what works for you. and cans of vegetables are ****ing gross. so no, i don't get those. this shake it what i use. i gave my opinion of it. i am not saying that it would be great for you or the next person. i gave what i personally think. the price works with my meal plan and my program. so if that's not ok with you, then alright, you are entitled to that opinion. im glad you found a system that works for you. but this is me.

    I love these threads.

    No, seriously...

    I. Love. These. Threads.
  • ShrinkingKari
    ShrinkingKari Posts: 52 Member
    Honestly I would be afraid to add in a protein shake right now since I am losing more than 2 pounds a week. I want to take off the weight smart, not first one to the finish line wins.
  • BombshellPhoenix
    BombshellPhoenix Posts: 1,693 Member
    Protein shakes are nice if you're in need of hitting your protein macro but you can get a whole tub for like 25 bucks from like gnc or walmart that lasts much longer than shakeology crap.

    There's nothing special about any foods, other than their ability to help you meet your nutritional needs.

    Eat to fuel your body, meet your nutritional needs, stay in a moderate deficit for weight loss, and stay away from scams:flowerforyou:
  • sloth3toes
    sloth3toes Posts: 2,212 Member

    I have even gotten some messages on this.

    Were any of those messages from BB coaches, by any chance?
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    My wife and I both drink Shakeology daily. And she can do 16 unassisted pull ups: ;-)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi1MXYg7qoA

    I never drank Shakeology and I can do 25 unassisted pull-ups.

    I also never paid through the nose for crappy tasting shakes. Call me thrifty.
  • Derpes
    Derpes Posts: 2,033 Member
    ok. I use shakeology daily. This is probably my favorite thing ever. No, its not overpriced. the way I see it, I could either be paying for a bunch of food to make up a breakfast, or I could be paying for this shake. its not junk, its done wonders for me. If you are interested in learning more about it let me know! I'm more than willing to help you figure out if its worth your money!

    You can say it all you want....it's still junk.

    OP, no need to buy that junk.

    you can also say all you want hating on it. but obviously you never tried it so don't know. how about instead of negativity and judging something you wouldn't look twice at just because your "that kind of guy" you let somebody with an honest opinion help out.

    Honest opinion from someone who is a 'coach' trying to sell a product?

    laughing-gif.10714

    Easy, they are a shakeologist!
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    My wife and I both drink Shakeology daily. And she can do 16 unassisted pull ups: ;-)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi1MXYg7qoA

    I drank it throughout my transformation as well:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an-w8_vNuWw

    Most of you may not know this, but you get access to a Beachbody coach with Shakeology. Now not all coaches are the same. I had a coach who never contacted me...and they missed out dearly...

    Yes I am a bit biased. Do you need Shakeology to lose weight...no. IMO it does make it easier. Shakeology is a nutritionally dense shake that replaces a meal. Yes it is not the cheapest shake out there but it is not just a protein shake...I challenge everyone to look into the ingrediants. Dose anyone here spend >$4 on a meal? If so you might consider replacing that meal with Shakeology.

    I expect all the figure and physique competitors posting here to bash me at this point...but how many of them would take your phone calls and help get you started off right, add you to a private support system and answer your questions throughout the day? Help you generate meal plans that actually work for your goals and your schedule?

    The journey of fitness begins not only in the kitchen...but in your mind. You have to believe you are worth the effort if you are going to succeed.

    Let the bashing begin...but I will forever recommend a product that has changed the life of my family,

    Thanks for listening,

    Robert

    Are you insinuating that your wife is fit/can do those pull ups because of Shakeology? :huh:

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • 20Grit
    20Grit Posts: 752 Member
    waist of money, allergic to wheatgrass, and never helped me once with a pull up. :grumble:
  • yellowlemoned
    yellowlemoned Posts: 335 Member
    Way over priced. If you want to replace a meal with a shake-like drink you can get the same thing at a grocery store for a lot less. It doesn't taste all that great either unless you add banana and peanut butter or other fruits.
  • notamoment
    notamoment Posts: 190 Member
    I expect all the figure and physique competitors posting here to bash me at this point...but how many of them would take your phone calls and help get you started off right, add you to a private support system and answer your questions throughout the day? Help you generate meal plans that actually work for your goals and your schedule?

    I'm a bodybuilder. I am here day in and day out offering free advice, private support, answering questions, getting them real results without selling them anything or making money off of them (most of the time I actually save them money).

    She is the devil, but she keeps them coming back for more with her dirty diary and free advice its sickening she should be eating clean, drinking shakeology, and charging $180 a month. ;p
  • notamoment
    notamoment Posts: 190 Member
    Way over priced. If you want to replace a meal with a shake-like drink you can get the same thing at a grocery store for a lot less. It doesn't taste all that great either unless you add banana and peanut butter or other fruits.

    Chocolate ice cream, a scoop of protein, some milk, half a banana and a strawberry...thats how i roll :smokin:
  • hermann341
    hermann341 Posts: 443 Member
    It will just lighten your wallet.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    I expect all the figure and physique competitors posting here to bash me at this point...but how many of them would take your phone calls and help get you started off right, add you to a private support system and answer your questions throughout the day? Help you generate meal plans that actually work for your goals and your schedule?

    I'm a bodybuilder. I am here day in and day out offering free advice, private support, answering questions, getting them real results without selling them anything or making money off of them (most of the time I actually save them money).

    She is the devil, but she keeps them coming back for more with her dirty diary and free advice its sickening she should be eating clean, drinking shakeology, and charging $180 a month. ;p

    Hahaha This made me evil laugh! :devil:
  • leojsivad
    leojsivad Posts: 124 Member
    I have drank it for almost 3 years. I enjoy it, although I can see why others don't.
  • explosivedonut
    explosivedonut Posts: 419 Member
    Yes I am a bit biased. Do you need Shakeology to lose weight...no. IMO it does make it easier. Shakeology is a nutritionally dense shake that replaces a meal. Yes it is not the cheapest shake out there but it is not just a protein shake...I challenge everyone to look into the ingrediants. Dose anyone here spend >$4 on a meal? If so you might consider replacing that meal with Shakeology.

    I actually don't spend >$4 on any meal. I would venture to guess MOST people don't do that. I buy pretty much whatever I feel like (I am lucky enough that I don't have a super strict grocery budget), and between my wife and myself, we spend on average $140 a week on food. This includes more expensive gluten free foods (because my wife has Celiacs), miscellaneous non-food items (toilet paper, paper towels, etc). So, divided evenly, we spend $70 per person per week. That means $10 a day per person. And, eating only 3 meals a day (I personally eat 3 large meals and 3 small snacks, because that's what I like to do. Not because it's "better" or whatever), it divides into $3.33 per meal.

    TL;DR shakeology isn't remotely close to a good deal by literally any measure.
  • iheartinsanity
    iheartinsanity Posts: 205 Member
    You don't need bacon either...but you still eat it.

    A lot of people drink it for the benefit of weight loss...but it shouldn't be everyones goal. I personally lost the majority of my weight years ago (5 to be exact). I'm no longer in weight loss mode. I'm in fat loss mode/body composition. Not interested at all in weight loss. It's about improved the inside, as much as the outside is being repaired.

    You don't have to like my opinion, but I gave my opinion. She's not looking for everyone to say "No, don't get shakeology". All of you people throw tantrums everytime someone doesn't agree with your opinion on Shakeology. We're entitled to an opinion as long as it falls in line with yours? Right?!
    ok. I use shakeology daily. This is probably my favorite thing ever. No, its not overpriced. the way I see it, I could either be paying for a bunch of food to make up a breakfast, or I could be paying for this shake. its not junk, its done wonders for me. If you are interested in learning more about it let me know! I'm more than willing to help you figure out if its worth your money!

    A dozen eggs and a package of bacon costs around $5 and covers breakfast for 3 days.
    A package of chicken and several cans of vegetables costs $12 and covers lunch for an entire week.
    A bag of potatoes costs $5 and lasts 3-4 weeks.

    With your beachbody coach discount a single shake costs you $3.32.

    Explain how that isn't over priced.

    I don't know where you live but bacon here costs $5.99 a package, $4.99 if you find it on sale (plus we're one of the states that have sales tax on food, so add in more). Eggs about $2 a package. Eggs bacon, chicken, and canned veggies (hello sodium!!) don't contain spirulina, wheat grass, yacon root, goji berry, acai, flax, etc. I'd rather may more and keep the garbage out of my temple.

    We have tax here too. Even for a couple of dollars more for a few days of food it comes out to less than the shakes you drink. You do not need spirulina, wheat grass, yacon root, goji berry, acai or flax to lose weight. Several of those are proven to do nothing for you. The vitamins in the shake are not even high quality.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    You don't need bacon either...but you still eat it.

    A lot of people drink it for the benefit of weight loss...but it shouldn't be everyones goal. I personally lost the majority of my weight years ago (5 to be exact). I'm no longer in weight loss mode. I'm in fat loss mode/body composition. Not interested at all in weight loss. It's about improved the inside, as much as the outside is being repaired.

    You don't have to like my opinion, but I gave my opinion. She's not looking for everyone to say "No, don't get shakeology". All of you people throw tantrums everytime someone doesn't agree with your opinion on Shakeology. We're entitled to an opinion as long as it falls in line with yours? Right?!

    I never told you to not have or not share your opinion. You can post that you like it and what benefits you've personally felt came from using it. Just like I can come in here and share that people can save money by not buying it, but still get results.

    Comparing bacon to spirulina, wheat grass, yacon root, goji berry, acai or flax is absolutely irrelevant. I don't eat bacon because I think it "keeps my temple clean" I eat it because it fills my fat and protein macros. I have a functioning liver and kidneys, so I'm pretty cleaned out. My body composition is excellent and all my health markers are exceptional.

    That's great if you found something that you like, but it is absolutely unnecessary for fat loss, health or body composition. That's why we come in here and give our opinions on it. We want people to know that Shakeology is entirely unnecessary and expensive. If they choose to spend their money on it that is entirely up to them. You've taken this whole thing as an attack on you, when all I am saying is that it is expensive and unnecessary.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,992 Member
    Just go with science. There's no peer reviewed clinical study showing that drinking any supplemental drink for weight loss is more advantageous/superior than just meeting your essentials (macro/micros) and being in a calorie deficit. What's the biggest difference? Cost and preference.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • elleloch
    elleloch Posts: 739 Member
    Just go with science. There's no peer reviewed clinical study showing that drinking any supplemental drink for weight loss is more advantageous/superior than just meeting your essentials (macro/micros) and being in a calorie deficit. What's the biggest difference? Cost and preference.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.news10.com/story/26016752/shakeology-has-been-clinically-proven-to-help-lose-weight-and-get-healthy
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Just go with science. There's no peer reviewed clinical study showing that drinking any supplemental drink for weight loss is more advantageous/superior than just meeting your essentials (macro/micros) and being in a calorie deficit. What's the biggest difference? Cost and preference.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.news10.com/story/26016752/shakeology-has-been-clinically-proven-to-help-lose-weight-and-get-healthy

    I can't find a link to the actual study. Can you provide the study and not a link to the news article?

    I searched the National Institute of Health database and the National Library of Medicine and even the Medicus Research library (those are the people who claimed to have done the study). There's absolutely nothing on any of them that have this study. Even a google search of the Dr. who claims to have done it shows nothing except the news article.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    Just go with science. There's no peer reviewed clinical study showing that drinking any supplemental drink for weight loss is more advantageous/superior than just meeting your essentials (macro/micros) and being in a calorie deficit. What's the biggest difference? Cost and preference.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.news10.com/story/26016752/shakeology-has-been-clinically-proven-to-help-lose-weight-and-get-healthy

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    Edit: It's funny they actually cited their "source".
  • elleloch
    elleloch Posts: 739 Member
    Just go with science. There's no peer reviewed clinical study showing that drinking any supplemental drink for weight loss is more advantageous/superior than just meeting your essentials (macro/micros) and being in a calorie deficit. What's the biggest difference? Cost and preference.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.news10.com/story/26016752/shakeology-has-been-clinically-proven-to-help-lose-weight-and-get-healthy

    I can't find a link to the actual study. Can you provide the study and not a link to the news article?

    I searched the National Institute of Health database and the National Library of Medicine and even the Medicus Research library (those are the people who claimed to have done the study). There's absolutely nothing on any of them that have this study. Even a google search of the Dr. who claims to have done it shows nothing except the news article.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=medicus+research+clinical+study+on+shakeology+
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Just go with science. There's no peer reviewed clinical study showing that drinking any supplemental drink for weight loss is more advantageous/superior than just meeting your essentials (macro/micros) and being in a calorie deficit. What's the biggest difference? Cost and preference.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.news10.com/story/26016752/shakeology-has-been-clinically-proven-to-help-lose-weight-and-get-healthy

    I can't find a link to the actual study. Can you provide the study and not a link to the news article?

    I searched the National Institute of Health database and the National Library of Medicine and even the Medicus Research library (those are the people who claimed to have done the study). There's absolutely nothing on any of them that have this study. Even a google search of the Dr. who claims to have done it shows nothing except the news article.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=medicus+research+clinical+study+on+shakeology+

    The study didn't come up. I want the study. Not a video or news articles or the beachbody/shakeology websites. I want the form with the methodology and the measurements and all the data.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,992 Member
    Just go with science. There's no peer reviewed clinical study showing that drinking any supplemental drink for weight loss is more advantageous/superior than just meeting your essentials (macro/micros) and being in a calorie deficit. What's the biggest difference? Cost and preference.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.news10.com/story/26016752/shakeology-has-been-clinically-proven-to-help-lose-weight-and-get-healthy
    Lol, okay so if the didn't change ANYTHING in their diet or exercise, but just drank Shakeology, how did the 9 pound loss happen?:laugh: Magic?
    They did not increase their physical activity and they did not change anything with their diet. The only part of their lifestyle that was changed was Shakeology. This was meant to isolate the actual effect that Shakeology has on overall health.
    Kinda defies the laws of thermodynamics eh?

    The same "research" company (who are paid by the companies asking for feedback) also supports the Dukan diet and other diets that are not very sustainable.

    But I digress. It still doesn't compare if eating less while meeting essentials is more advantageous. The gist of any weight loss program is going to come down to calories in/out regardless of how one achieves it.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • elleloch
    elleloch Posts: 739 Member
    Just go with science. There's no peer reviewed clinical study showing that drinking any supplemental drink for weight loss is more advantageous/superior than just meeting your essentials (macro/micros) and being in a calorie deficit. What's the biggest difference? Cost and preference.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.news10.com/story/26016752/shakeology-has-been-clinically-proven-to-help-lose-weight-and-get-healthy

    I can't find a link to the actual study. Can you provide the study and not a link to the news article?

    I searched the National Institute of Health database and the National Library of Medicine and even the Medicus Research library (those are the people who claimed to have done the study). There's absolutely nothing on any of them that have this study. Even a google search of the Dr. who claims to have done it shows nothing except the news article.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=medicus+research+clinical+study+on+shakeology+

    The study didn't come up. I want the study.

    Sorry - I've been looking.

    They are in the process of getting it published. I'll be waiting.
  • Burt_Huttz
    Burt_Huttz Posts: 1,612 Member
    lol
    All 50 clinical trial participants were required to drink Shakeology for breakfast and lunch for 90 days. No other diet or exercise changes were required.
    Participation in the clinical trial was monitored using a proprietary app to track weight and compliance every day.
    “This is a very valuable study because it isolates the effect of Shakeology, and the results were impressive. Having had the Shakeology shake at breakfast we found statistically significant reductions in the desire to eat at lunch. Subjects in this study lost nearly 10lbs on average and up to 24lbs which is quite remarkable for a 90 day study.

    I wonder what the results would have been like if they were required to eat sawdust for breakfast and lunch. Probably even more impressive weight loss.
    sigh.
    No control group drinking the shakes of competition.
    No nothing.
  • _Pseudonymous_
    _Pseudonymous_ Posts: 1,671 Member
    I'm just here for the entertainment... and for usmcmp's abs and Hornby's legs... good god dem muscles!!! That they didn't use shakeology to get!!!



    In all honesty I have so many beach body friends that they actually gave me free samples to get me on the band wagon. They all tasted disgusting and they all had recipes that bulked up the shakes to around 500 calories just to make them drinkable. I think it's overrated. I did feel a little more energy during the day but that isn't enough to fork out that kind of money for that crap. I would rather stick to the higher quality vitamins and minerals and buy my own protein powder or cheaper meal replacements if I needed a quicker more nutritious option because I "don't have time to make a healthy balanced meal".


    Good luck OP!:drinker: :flowerforyou:
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Just go with science. There's no peer reviewed clinical study showing that drinking any supplemental drink for weight loss is more advantageous/superior than just meeting your essentials (macro/micros) and being in a calorie deficit. What's the biggest difference? Cost and preference.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.news10.com/story/26016752/shakeology-has-been-clinically-proven-to-help-lose-weight-and-get-healthy

    I can't find a link to the actual study. Can you provide the study and not a link to the news article?

    I searched the National Institute of Health database and the National Library of Medicine and even the Medicus Research library (those are the people who claimed to have done the study). There's absolutely nothing on any of them that have this study. Even a google search of the Dr. who claims to have done it shows nothing except the news article.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=medicus+research+clinical+study+on+shakeology+

    The study didn't come up. I want the study.

    Sorry - I've been looking.

    They are in the process of getting it published. I'll be waiting.

    I suspect we'll *all* be waiting.
  • lizarddev
    lizarddev Posts: 100 Member
    Just go with science. There's no peer reviewed clinical study showing that drinking any supplemental drink for weight loss is more advantageous/superior than just meeting your essentials (macro/micros) and being in a calorie deficit. What's the biggest difference? Cost and preference.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.news10.com/story/26016752/shakeology-has-been-clinically-proven-to-help-lose-weight-and-get-healthy

    I can't find a link to the actual study. Can you provide the study and not a link to the news article?

    I searched the National Institute of Health database and the National Library of Medicine and even the Medicus Research library (those are the people who claimed to have done the study). There's absolutely nothing on any of them that have this study. Even a google search of the Dr. who claims to have done it shows nothing except the news article.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=medicus+research+clinical+study+on+shakeology+

    The study didn't come up. I want the study.

    Sorry - I've been looking.

    They are in the process of getting it published. I'll be waiting.

    I suspect we'll *all* be waiting.

    Ok, This is really something to read. Anything can be proven based on anything someone says. I did the research on the Doctor and the company that did the study and I have issues with this. I do have a Doctor but in computer Science and I had to go through a strenuous application when and if I did a study with or without human subjects, we all do if you go for a doctorate. It takes a minimal of 3 months to be approved for a study without human subjects and it is very detailed in the steps and the goal you are trying to achieve. This company states that they can get it done in 24 to 48 hours (http://www.medicusresearch.com/cro-or-universities/), which is not going through a Institutional Review Board (IRB) correctly to protect human subjects, IRB's protects the human subjects in a study. If this is medical like this study would be then there will be a medical IRB (example: http://www.cpmc.org/professionals/research/irb/compliancestatement.html). There is a lot more that has to be done which I wont go into here. Also the company that allegedly did the research is listed as a MRI company per the Better Business Bureau (BBB). The Doctor that did the study owns this company, but he wrote papers in these areas but has not released this study for some reason. There is a theory that he developed to study and test natural health products, but I see nothing on this particular study even on his linked in page of a release. Another fact is that a study is not announced unless they are in the process of publishing through some publishing committee. This takes between 4 to 6 months to do in some cases. The article that you have listed in here is from July 14 of this year. mainframe of a study is off. HE may be in the process but nothing has been published. So now we can go to the ingredients which this is nothing new where I can by most of this stuff that goes in and measure it myself and make or have the same results. That is no different than buy a whey protein at Walmart and incorporating the ingredients which will last me for over a month at half the price. Also the facts is that I can do the same with this type of protein drink and get the same results and sometimes better depending on how I use it and how I incorporate it in my eating plan.

    Now lets compare.
    1. It may be a good meal replacement, so is Whey protein.
    2. This is not a fix all loose weight drink cause I can do the same with Whey protein at Walmart which is cheaper and replace a meal or two with it.
    3. Another is you need to exercise regularly as stated in health forms with both of these.

    Last thing to say is too each his/ her own and what you may think works go with it and get healthy. That is the ultimate goal we are all trying to achieve.

    So to the original author, If you want to use this product there is no need for me to tell you no or yes. This is completely up to you and its only you who can do it or not. Everyone is different on how they lose and they way you lose weight you just have to find yours that works and keep your self healthy. I hope this answered a bunch of questions or skepticism. I bet not someone will have at it. My post is not from opinion it is from fact and research.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    I'm just here for the entertainment... and for usmcmp's abs and Hornby's legs... good god dem muscles!!! That they didn't use shakeology to get!!!

    You....I like you, but please don't put me in the same sentence as usmcmp. She is on a whole other level...lol. :)