Very little weight loss: Looking for non-traditional advice

I am feeling very stuck and would like some non-traditional advice or ideas. I made a lifestyle change about 2 years ago going from very sedentary to a very active. I am in the best shape of my life: fit, strong, and feeling good. :happy: Unfortunately I am also overweight and have lost very little fat. :grumble:

Considerations:
* My thyroid is a bit low and two months ago I began taking a supplement from the doctor.
* My glucose is a bit high so for the past two months I have been lowering my carb and sugar intake.
* The food I eat is 90% whole, unprocessed, and clean. (I don't count calories or measure food because it simply isn't realistic for me. From time to do I do it short -term as a way to re-orient myself to correct portions.)
* I do CrossFit and rowing/running/biking 3-5 times per week
* I make a rocking very low sugar low carb chocolate raspberry ice cream :glasses:

Here is the traditional (and usually correct advice):
Eat less, move more. -done
Measure your food. - done
Count calories. - done
Count macro nutrients. - done
Eat Clean. - 90% done
Do cardio and resistance training at least 3 times per week. - done

Any other ideas?
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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    If you aren't losing weight, you aren't in a deficit. If you aren't counting calories, you don't know how much you are eating. All the other traditional advice you listed is irrelevant at this point.
  • 52cardpickup
    52cardpickup Posts: 379 Member
    Just curious, you said "I don't count calories or measure food", but then said "measure your food - done". As I'm sure many people will tell you, just because you're eating unprocessed "clean" food, doesn't necessarily mean you're eating within your macros or your optimal calorie consumption range for the day.
  • CupcakeCrusoe
    CupcakeCrusoe Posts: 1,426 Member
    Really count your calories. Every day. Everything you eat. Measure and weigh. That is the most solid advice I can possibly give.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    The food I eat is 90% whole, unprocessed, and clean. (I don't count calories or measure food because it simply isn't realistic for me. From time to do I do it short -term as a way to re-orient myself to correct portions.)

    The above is why you are not losing weight. Also, you will not get much non-traditional advice (i.e. new diet, cut out all fat and sugar, etc) because those things are fads based on broscience and myths.

    As far as weight loss goals go, in order to lose weight you must eat less calories than you burn. Even with medical conditions, you can find that number, but it takes a bit more work.

    If you don't count calories or weigh your food, you have no idea how many calories you are eating. I suggest you make a habit of counting calories, weighing food (not measuring, because it's not accurate), and ensure that you are using correct portion entries. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1234699-logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide

    Also, either figure out your TDEE or eat back a portion of your cardio calories.

    Sorry, this is it. Bets of luck! :smile: :wink:
  • nicsflyingcircus
    nicsflyingcircus Posts: 2,858 Member
    Really count your calories. Every day. Everything you eat. Measure and weigh. That is the most solid advice I can possibly give.

    ^^This. I don't do anything but weigh my food and count calories and I have lost 66lbs since mid-April. If you're not losing, you're not in a deficit. Measure/weigh your food, I suspect you will find that you're eating more than you think you are.
  • Hearts_2015
    Hearts_2015 Posts: 12,031 Member
    <snip>......(I don't count calories or measure food because it simply isn't realistic for me. From time to do I do it short -term as a way to re-orient myself to correct portions.)

    Is is possible since you're not measuring and weighing foods daily that you might be under eating? That can definitely stall weight loss.

    It's easy to over estimate or under estimate our foods if we're not measuring them a good part of the time. Some foods are easier to do a guesstimate than others, some foods are a shock when you guess then actually weigh them.

    Having the thyroid & blood sugar issue only a short time ago may have some to do with this.

    You'll likely get some helpful posts in the thread that may give more ideas.:flowerforyou:
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    The food I eat is 90% whole, unprocessed, and clean. (I don't count calories or measure food because it simply isn't realistic for me. From time to do I do it short -term as a way to re-orient myself to correct portions.)

    The above is why you are not losing weight. Also, you will not get much non-traditional advice (i.e. new diet, cut out all fat and sugar, etc) because those things are fads based on broscience and myths.

    As far as weight loss goals go, in order to lose weight you must eat less calories than you burn. Even with medical conditions, you can find that number, but it takes a bit more work.

    If you don't count calories or weigh your food, you have no idea how many calories you are eating. I suggest you make a habit of counting calories, weighing food (not measuring, because it's not accurate), and ensure that you are using correct portion entries. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1234699-logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide

    Also, either figure out your TDEE or eat back a portion of your cardio calories.

    Sorry, this is it. Bets of luck! :smile: :wink:

    This.

    But if you want some non-traditional advice, I suggest having more sex. Not only does it burn calories, but it may improve the quality of your sleep.

    You're welcome.
  • FlamingJune67
    FlamingJune67 Posts: 96 Member
    (I don't count calories or measure food because it simply isn't realistic for me. From time to do I do it short -term as a way to re-orient myself to correct portions.)

    If you are not going to count calories, the only ways I know to lose weight are intermittent fasting (probably not doable for you due to blood glucose and thyroid problems) or monitoring your hunger. By monitoring hunger - I mean you should feel slightly hungry all the time. This is the only way - without an accurate calorie count using scales and measuring - that you can ensure that you are eating at a deficit. Otherwise, you WILL not lose weight. No matter what you've heard, normal, healthy people do not lose weight (no matter how much they exercise or how clean they eat) without a plan and some discomfort, because our bodies will naturally cause us to eat more to make up for calorie deficits.

    I personally cannot lose weight without weighing my food, despite running 25+ miles a week plus walking and strength training. Even though I am very familiar with portion size, I have discovered that I ALWAYS underestimate how much is on my plate. I suspect this is what is happening to you as well.
  • marianne_s
    marianne_s Posts: 983 Member
    Without measuring your food or counting calories, how do you know if you're eating too may or too little calories.

    My non-traditional advice would be to eat more, as a lot of people tend to reduce their calorie intake when weight loss stalls.

    But when you're very active, this is actually the last thing you want to do.

    Without knowing your stats and how many calories you have been eating, I can't say if this is something you should do.
  • nicsflyingcircus
    nicsflyingcircus Posts: 2,858 Member
    <snip>......(I don't count calories or measure food because it simply isn't realistic for me. From time to do I do it short -term as a way to re-orient myself to correct portions.)

    Is is possible since you're not measuring and weighing foods daily that you might be under eating? That can definitely stall weight loss.

    It's easy to over estimate or under estimate our foods if we're not measuring them a good part of the time. Some foods are easier to do a guesstimate than others, some foods are a shock when you guess then actually weigh them.

    Having the thyroid & blood sugar issue only a short time ago may have some to do with this.

    You'll likely get some helpful posts in the thread that may give more ideas.:flowerforyou:

    Examples of under and overestimating today... because I am a dork, I will often choose a portion of food and see how close I was. Cut off a chunk of cheese this morning, wanted 1oz(28g). Hit 26g. Pretty darn good. Pour my half and half into my coffee cup (on top of the scale, with the numbers covered), was shooting for 30g, hit 38. Whoops. Small examples, but if you are off a little bit on EVERYTHING, it adds up.
  • Camo_xxx
    Camo_xxx Posts: 1,082 Member
    Hmmm non traditional advise.

    Move to a famine stricken african country where food is so scares that it will leave you no choice but to eat at a calorie deficit.

    The only scientifically proven way of loosing fat is to consume less calories then you burn. You are simply eating to many calories.
  • schnicklefritz1
    schnicklefritz1 Posts: 130 Member
    I would definately weigh and measure your food. You do have time, I prepare most of my food for the week on Sunday...it is a pain the rear, but I take the time to do it and it works. Also, as far as the working out....ad weigh lifting in to your work outs. I have lost 7+ inches and 18.8 pounds in the last 5 weeks. I log EVERYTHING, the good the bad and the ugly, I work out every AM for at least 45 minutes with cardio, I work out 3 days a week with a trainer, 2 of those days are almost all lifting, (tonight is heavy lift night whoot whoot...I LOVE HEAVY LIFT DAY) and then I take 2 cardio classes a week as well. I eat "clean" for the most part, I make sure my protein is up, my salt is down and that the sugar I have comes from the foods that I eat and nothing added. I eat a lot of fruits and veggies and chicken ( i hate chicken ) but it is what I must do in order to have the success I have had.

    Some times you have to do things that are hard and uncomfortable in order to make the changes that you want. 6 weeks ago I had been on a slump of working my *kitten* off and no weight loss....my trainer changed my sodium intake and BLAM...i started dropping weight to the tune of 3.76 pounds per week average. Some weeks I throw 5 pound losses, some weeks 1 pound...but I have not stopped losing since then. And the changes in my body...WOW!!!!!!!!! Too numerous to even get in to. ..... but I am definately not the same person I was 5 weeks ago.

    Make some small changes, add weight lifting...you will do it....
  • wkwebby
    wkwebby Posts: 807 Member
    Resistance training looks to be lacking. Your crossfit stuff can have it, but it depends on the class/teacher/trainer. Progress on weight training and improve your body composition.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    If you aren't losing weight, you aren't in a deficit. If you aren't counting calories, you don't know how much you are eating. All the other traditional advice you listed is irrelevant at this point.

    Yup.

    Why isn't counting and measuring "realistic" for you? The phone app makes things really easy. I have a food scale both at home and at work.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    So you don't want to hear about weighing food and eating at a calorie deficit

    Ok

    Tie your dominant hand behind your back, throw out all your spoons and remove 3 of the 4 prongs from all your forks
  • AmyRhubarb
    AmyRhubarb Posts: 6,890 Member
    Agree with what others have said - counting the calories is the way to go.

    If counting calories isn't realistic for you, then fat loss won't be either. :tongue: You can be consistent with exercise, be fit and stronger than ever, but if you're not at least in a small calorie deficit, the fat is not going to come off.
  • AdobeTree
    AdobeTree Posts: 49 Member
    In the past I measured food and calories. It is not something I can sustain for every meal for the rest of my life. So no, I do not currently count calories. However I do eat reasonable portions and periodically I will go back and count for a week at a time to make sure my portions are OK.
  • seltzermint555
    seltzermint555 Posts: 10,740 Member
    Just curious, you said "I don't count calories or measure food", but then said "measure your food - done". As I'm sure many people will tell you, just because you're eating unprocessed "clean" food, doesn't necessarily mean you're eating within your macros or your optimal calorie consumption range for the day.

    This.

    OP, I see you are getting a lot of very simple advice here about counting calories, measuring your food, etc. Why not give it a try? Measure/weigh/whatever...count very precisely for a couple of weeks, and see what happens.

    I was skeptical too...I felt like I was practically starving myself and exercising a lot, eating 90% or more "healthy food" and it took me YEARS of being on track w/ that in order to lose any weight at all. Then I started tracking religiously and it feels like it was comparatively easy to lose the weight reflected in my ticker. Just sayin'. Nothing to lose but weight. har har
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    In the past I measured food and calories. It is not something I can sustain for every meal for the rest of my life. So no, I do not currently count calories. However I do eat reasonable portions and periodically I will go back and count for a week at a time to make sure my portions are OK.

    Then expect the same results as you have been getting.

    Really, honestly, there is NO non-traditional advice that can overrule science.
  • justlistening
    justlistening Posts: 249 Member
    Since you mention thyroid/glucose issues maybe get your RMR tested so you have a more precise idea where to start and eat at a deficit from there. What are your stats? I get that counting is not sustainable for you. It is not for me either and I do what you do to lose about 5 lbs. It makes me focus way too much on food. But on the other hand I am not in a hurry.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    In the past I measured food and calories. It is not something I can sustain for every meal for the rest of my life. So no, I do not currently count calories. However I do eat reasonable portions and periodically I will go back and count for a week at a time to make sure my portions are OK.

    You don't have to do it for the rest of your life, just while trying to lose. It seems that you can naturally eat at maintenance without counting, so once you hit your goal, you'll be all set, but until then it seems like you'll have to count.
  • jwats8
    jwats8 Posts: 112
    Weigh and measure everything you eat. I run 20-30 miles per week and eat pretty healthy, but would not lose without counting every calorie I take in.
  • muppetkeeper
    muppetkeeper Posts: 33 Member
    I'm not sure what advice you were expecting on a blog of a website built to count calories... All of the successful people on here count everything, all the time!
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Buy a food scale, weigh your food = miracle solution. Really. Sure, it might not be sustainable long term for you, but I guess you can just complain that you're not losing weight and stay overweight instead. Personally, I'd rather take the 5 minutes a day it takes to weigh my food all my life if I have to, but rock my healthy weight body.
  • Branstin
    Branstin Posts: 2,320 Member
    (I don't count calories or measure food because it simply isn't realistic for me. From time to do I do it short -term as a way to re-orient myself to correct portions.)

    Why is it unrealistic to properly weigh and measure your food? Unless you know how much food you are eating, you will continue with this road block. So far guessing hasn't worked for you.
  • CLM1227
    CLM1227 Posts: 61 Member
    Here is a "non-traditional" way to count calories.

    Once a week (or however many times you CAN), prepare a menu plan for yourself and count the calories in the menu plan.

    Prepare your food, measure it, and store it for easy grab & go eating throughout the week. If you want a bit of variety in your week, do 2 different menu plans and alternate days.

    If you want snacking wiggle room, prepare menus with 100-200 calories less and ONLY count your snacking calories.

    It is not traditional "count as you go" but pre-counting calories. However, you don't have as much on the fly choices and you HAVE to stick with your menu unless you plan to count as you go when you deviate.
  • I am a low carber by choice. It makes me feel much better and I have a lot more energy. This is a personal choice.
    Having said that, I still log all my food on here and watch my calorie intake, along with my carb intake.
    I do not believe the only reason I am losing weight is because of eating low carb. I have lost weight because I
    am in a calorie deficit and I exercise.
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    I don't count calories or measure food because it simply isn't realistic for me.

    if you aren't willing to try this, then I got nothing for ya
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    Well, considering the only way too lose weight is to eat less than you burn, I'm not sure what kind of advice you're looking for. Eat less. If you aren't losing weight, you're eating too much. If you don't want to track calories, I guess just make a very conscious effort to cut calories. Try subbing out some ingredients in food you eat regularly for lower calorie items.