What if I am just meant to be fat?

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  • 1911JR
    1911JR Posts: 276
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    Is this even possible??? Can your body just like where it is and that is why you don't lose? I am so sad that nothing changes despite my effort. I feel defeated. Depressed. Disgusting.

    Short answer, NO, its not possible. Unless you have a major medical condition. And if that`s the case, your answer is at your Dr`s. office.

    Lack of drive and a low level of "want" is what causes it. People say they want something constantly, but really don`t do what it takes to make it happen. Then look for excuses and seek the answers that they want to hear.

    Now don`t take that as me beating up on you, because I`m not. That`s just my opinion why the majority doesn't reach their goals.

    So my advise, find new friends who are doers, and hang with them. It will rub off if you don`t reject it.
  • gabrielleelliott90
    gabrielleelliott90 Posts: 854 Member
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    No, I don't think anyone is meant to be fat. I do believe that our body has it's own ideal weight but it would never choose to be naturally obese. I don't think it plays along with BMI, of course you would feel better at your ideal weight according to BMI, but I don't think that would make much difference being a few pounds overweight either.
  • gabrielleelliott90
    gabrielleelliott90 Posts: 854 Member
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    Just never believe you are meant to be fat. That is what people who couldn't care less think, and you aren't one of those people, otherwise you wouldn't be doing MFP. I know people who don't like their weight, but won't do anything about it and expect it to just magically correct itself. Most people don't have the drive we do to make it happen rather than just sit about and hope.
  • short_nerdy_lady
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    Is this even possible??? Can your body just like where it is and that is why you don't lose? I am so sad that nothing changes despite my effort. I feel defeated. Depressed. Disgusting.

    You need to stop thinking that way. I used to think that way because my Mum struggled with her weight and it's more difficult for me to lose weight as well. NOBODY is "ment" to be fat. You just need to change your attitude and work for it.
  • gabrielleelliott90
    gabrielleelliott90 Posts: 854 Member
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    I think like that allllllll the time. I swear my body is different from everyone elses and wants to stay this way. :-(
    but it won't do us any good to think like this........IMO for people like us I feel in order to lose serious pounds I would most likely need a personal trainer, and I would need to be working out 6 days a week for more than an hour..I guess our bodies are stubborn! good luck with your journey though, don't give up.

    This makes me sad :( No you don't need a personal trainer, believe me it took me a couple years to lose nearly 30lb and although I am thin now, I'm not at my ideal thin weight in my mind. It will take a long time, and like you my body is stubborn too. But you have to keep going. It is gradual, because it is a healthy way. At least you aren't a silly person who does Juiceplus which takes your money, gets you to shed waterweight fast, then when you eat you put it back on. You are going the right way so please never give up.
  • skiextrm
    skiextrm Posts: 144 Member
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    I started out at 5'1" and 172 in January. I've stayed around 1300-1400 cals per day, eating back some exercise calories. I weigh and measure, and I am 62 years old. Now that I am at 147 lbs, I am kind of stalled eating 1300 and have to seriously tighten up or cut back a little. If I stick to 1300, I lose about .3 lbs a week and one cheat day can easily blow that. Just for comparison for other shorties out there.
  • LernRach
    LernRach Posts: 286 Member
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    I have read some of the comments above but just want to give my tuppence worth, which I think is different to what others have said!

    i have always been overweight, all my life! I also suffer from an auto-immune condition which means I am on quite a few meds. I too felt like you - I'm destined to be fat, I have PCOS, I have always been overweight, have tried every fad diet, had personal trainers, go to the gym and work like a beast, nothing...

    Had a baby 9 weeks ago, was put on a high dose of steroids which I'm still trying to wean off, meaning another hurdle to climb! I was really depressed about not only being overweight, but now 20lbs on top of that because of baby!!

    Fast forward to 2 weeks ago, I went to my Dr and complained about it, can he refer me to (yet another)specialist.... His response was, PCOS + steroids = one of most difficult weight loss challenges, yet there is ALWAYS, for every single person, a calorie deficit that will allow them to lose weight. He said I should go down to 1,400, stay there for a month, if I don't lose, go down another 100 etc.

    I went home, came straight back on MFP, and 14 days later have lost 6 lbs... I have never ever lost this much so quickly..... I write down every freaking thing I eat, I even weigh the bloody lettuce I eat, but its working! DOn't get me wrong, I have a long way to go, but it has definitely changed my attitude of "I'm destined to be fat"...

    add me, I'm happy to support you along your journey

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  • deansdad101
    deansdad101 Posts: 644 Member
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    I have read some of the comments above but just want to give my tuppence worth, which I think is different to what others have said!
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    Fast forward to 2 weeks ago, I went to my Dr and complained about it, can he refer me to (yet another)specialist.... His response was, PCOS + steroids = one of most difficult weight loss challenges, yet there is ALWAYS, for every single person, a calorie deficit that will allow them to lose weight. He said I should go down to 1,400, stay there for a month, if I don't lose, go down another 100 etc.

    I went home, came straight back on MFP, and 14 days later have lost 6 lbs... I have never ever lost this much so quickly.....
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    LearN;
    Your doc is, of course, correct when he says "....there is ALWAYS.....",
    ...and when he advises that weight loss is a critical step on your journey.

    You didn't mention it, but can we "assume" that he also mentioned that the preponderance of recent study results support the hypothesis that:
    insulin levels (natural) are one of (if not "the") primary controlling factors in HOW your body utilizes whatever calories you consume?,
    that, what "type" of calories (sugars, carbs, proteins, etc) you consume has a MAJOR impact on insulin production (and use),
    and that Sugars, Starches, Carbs (the "bad" ones), and pretty much "any" processed foods - ALL contribute in a very negative way to upsetting the insulin "balance"?

    If he didn't mention it, I'd be concerned if I were you.

    BUT - don't take my word for it - do your own research then ask him why he failed to mention it.

    You can thank the USDA and Congress for promulgating the current "misinformation" campaign (the one that resulted in skyrocketing obesity, diabetes, and related numbers) - but the British and EU medical communities are not blameless either.

    Europe, and even the Brits are FINALLY beginning to at least acknowledge that "maybe....just maybe the current thinking hasn't exactly produced the results we expected".

    There are plenty of links to sites with actual "science" to backup current thinking and here are a couple that may or may not have been posted before but will get you started:
    http://tinyurl.com/n4dpohx
    http://tinyurl.com/d43z5yn
    https://www.dietdoctor.com/science

    Best of luck and keep up the great work! (just don't expect the current rate of loss to continue, it will likely decrease, as it should).
  • cbunkley1970
    cbunkley1970 Posts: 2 Member
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    Have you tried low carb dieting?
  • LernRach
    LernRach Posts: 286 Member
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    LearN;
    Your doc is, of course, correct when he says "....there is ALWAYS.....",
    ...and when he advises that weight loss is a critical step on your journey.

    You didn't mention it, but can we "assume" that he also mentioned that the preponderance of recent study results support the hypothesis that:
    insulin levels (natural) are one of (if not "the") primary controlling factors in HOW your body utilizes whatever calories you consume?,
    that, what "type" of calories (sugars, carbs, proteins, etc) you consume has a MAJOR impact on insulin production (and use),
    and that Sugars, Starches, Carbs (the "bad" ones), and pretty much "any" processed foods - ALL contribute in a very negative way to upsetting the insulin "balance"?

    If he didn't mention it, I'd be concerned if I were you.

    BUT - don't take my word for it - do your own research then ask him why he failed to mention it.

    You can thank the USDA and Congress for promulgating the current "misinformation" campaign (the one that resulted in skyrocketing obesity, diabetes, and related numbers) - but the British and EU medical communities are not blameless either.

    Europe, and even the Brits are FINALLY beginning to at least acknowledge that "maybe....just maybe the current thinking hasn't exactly produced the results we expected".

    There are plenty of links to sites with actual "science" to backup current thinking and here are a couple that may or may not have been posted before but will get you started:
    http://tinyurl.com/n4dpohx
    http://tinyurl.com/d43z5yn
    https://www.dietdoctor.com/science

    Best of luck and keep up the great work! (just don't expect the current rate of loss to continue, it will likely decrease, as it should).
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    We had already discussed healthy eating, what is a healthy diet, balance etc. My husband is also a infertility research dr, specialising in PCOS, so it's something he knows I know a lot about....

    I am well aware of all the science in the world - I just was still not losing!! 7lbs in 15 days is amazing for me-long may the losing last
  • Scooter_99
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    LernRach, I am glad to finally hear that someone understands or has been there and is seeing the light. I am glad you are starting to see a loss. After thinking about this I decided I am going to continue to count cals but I am also going to go low carb. I am going to get my carbs from veggies and clean things, cutting out bread and pasta type stuff. Maybe I am sensitive to carbs and was eating too many carbs a day.
  • krennie8
    krennie8 Posts: 301 Member
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    6. When recording exercise you need to be careful. My fitness pal is not very accurate in my opinion. If I lift weights, I generally cut the calories by at least 30%. My fitness pal gives you an estimate and it's impossible to know the actual number, but I feel cutting the estimate by 30 to 50% helps. If you over-estimate the calories burnt while exercising and under-estimate the calories consumed in food you are in for a world of trouble.

    I've noticed this too. It's completely wrong with most cardio calories. I use an elliptical machine mostly and MFP says I'll burn 300+ calories in 20 mins or some ridiculous amounts. The machine tells me 120 or so. It's best to research instead of relying completely on MFP for these.

    The machines are more accurate simply b/c they're measuring your actual input, while MFP is an estimate. I will say that generally MFP is within 10% of what the machine says for me. But I really push it on the elliptical.
  • mrslynah
    mrslynah Posts: 39 Member
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    I stopped reading responses on page 3. You have mentioned being estrogen dominant, but you say it like "I'm brunette, so that shouldn't matter"... like it's just a matter of fact. I have done extensive research on this, because I have a lot of hormone issues, including Stage IV Endometriosis. Estrogen dominance means you have too much estrogen, not enough progesterone or the balance is way off. Either way, it is what it sounds like. Estrogen is running the show. You likely have many other symptoms of this, possibly including mood swings, raging periods... here's a quick copy and paste bit on some common symptoms:
    Decreased sex drive
    Irregular or otherwise abnormal menstrual periods
    Bloating (water retention)
    Breast swelling and tenderness
    Fibrocystic breasts
    Headaches (especially premenstrually)
    Mood swings (most often irritability and depression)
    Weight and/or fat gain (particularly around the abdomen and hips)
    Cold hands and feet (a symptom of thyroid dysfunction)
    Hair loss
    Thyroid dysfunction
    Sluggish metabolism
    Foggy thinking, memory loss
    Fatigue
    Trouble sleeping/insomnia
    PMS

    Estrogen dominance has also been linked to allergies, autoimmune disorders, breast cancer, uterine cancer, infertility, ovarian cysts, and increased blood clotting, and is also associated with acceleration of the aging process.

    People who have not experienced having their body hijacked by hormones may be tempted to say this is not your problem. But rapid weight gain is one of the first symptoms of a hormone imbalance for a lot of women. I don't have any advice for you, other than to find a doctor who will listen to you and really work with you. Bioidentical progesterone can have some pretty unpleasant long term side effects, so I would tread very carefully. I guess I just wanted to post because I don't want you to feel alone. There are some things you can do to naturally lower your estrogen levels, though I can't guarantee they'll make you lose the weight. You may be interested in intermittent fasting, as fasting lowers estrogen levels. Good luck.
  • 415sarahb
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    Read "Think Like a Thin Person" by Dr Judith Beck, a psychiatrist who specializes in helping dieters to change their thought behaviors. I just finished it and it was like a light bulb going on.
  • mallorytravels
    mallorytravels Posts: 86 Member
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    When I was feeling this way (and I did through my preteen and many of my teenage years) it was because I simply was not committed to taking the required steps to actually losing weight. I wasn't committed to eating healthier or counting calories or exercising regularly. I just felt sad and hopeless. I hope this doesn't come across as too harsh. But you need to get real. You need to be committed to making big changes in your diet and lifestyle and being accountable to yourself in order to lose weight. Wishing you the best of luck.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,604 Member
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    No one is "meant" to be fat. Most fat kids are fat because of the feeding habits of their parents. Practically EVERYONE was thinner as a teenager, but as we age hardly anyone adjusted their eating habits. Less physical movement, still same amount of food will usually mean more weight.
    People from my experience don't lose weight for a few reasons:

    Lack of commitment
    Lack of consistency
    Hormonal/health issues
    Lack of sleep/rest
    High stress
    Just plain eats more than they need to

    Work on these first 100% before accepting that one is "meant" to be fat.

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