Can Someone Help Me?
melaniesilver76
Posts: 231 Member
I have been at this weight loss thing a while now and as of today have been a member of MFP and tracking my calories for the past 34 days..in that time I have lost a grand total of 2.7lbs. I walk 4-6 times a week usually 4-8 miles. Yet nothing budges.I previously lost 65lbs last Summer, just walking and cutting way back, but that also involved me skipping many meals, so not a healthy way.
I am beginning to wonder if maybe I have calculated the amount of calories I need to lose wrong?
What I am looking for is for someone who understands all this to take my numbers and info and help me get this figured out. I'd prefer not to post my personal info on here for the world to see. lol
Any help would be appreciated :flowerforyou:
Honestly I am really frustrated and ready to give up.
I am beginning to wonder if maybe I have calculated the amount of calories I need to lose wrong?
What I am looking for is for someone who understands all this to take my numbers and info and help me get this figured out. I'd prefer not to post my personal info on here for the world to see. lol
Any help would be appreciated :flowerforyou:
Honestly I am really frustrated and ready to give up.
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Thanks for adding me as a friend. I have hit a plateau now and again where I feel like I was not losing weight. I'm not able to see what you're eating or how many calories you're burning, so not sure how to offer help with your issue. My own experience is every now and then I actually go over a little, or take an extra rest day and see if that shakes things up.0
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If you open your diary it would help people figure out what is going on.0
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First, how are your tracking?? Weighing and measuring are imperative as deficit = weight loss. Second, to be sure you are in the right caloric allowance range : http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ (remember this number includes your exercise, where MFP does not).0
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First.....DON'T GIVE UP.
Second, without knowing anything other than how far you walk it's really hard to give advice.
Having said that, I would advise that you find some kind of meal plan that works for you and stick with it - don't skip meals.0 -
Ok I opened my diary God just that makes me feel anxious.:ohwell: lol Honestly at this point I will take any and all help, even if just a kick in the a**!0
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(ETA removed request for you to open diary)
If you're eating maintenance calories for your weight and walking a few times a week, I'd frankly be surprised you lost as much as you have, as the loss you've generated so far equates to about a little more than a 500 calorie deficit EVERY DAY. Depending on what you weigh, that's probably actually quite a lot for the amount of walking you describe. I'm obese and I walk 4 miles every single day, and at my weight (203 lbs) that's about 500 calories.
It would help ENORMOUSLY if you also described how you measure all your food portions (do you weigh your food, do you use measuring cups, do you "eyeball" portions, do you "not believe in counting calories" etc). You're very likely to get lots of advise to start using a food scale to measure your solid foods.0 -
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets
If you aren't already using one, get and use a food scale. Weigh all solids. Measuring cups/spoons are not accurate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
Neither is guessing:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1270280-food-weighing-scale-miracles
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1234699-logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide
http://www.acaloriecounter.com/blog/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/0 -
(ETA removed request for you to open diary)
If you're eating maintenance calories for your weight and walking a few times a week, I'd frankly be surprised you lost as much as you have, as the loss you've generated so far equates to about a little more than a 500 calorie deficit EVERY DAY. Depending on what you weigh, that's probably actually quite a lot for the amount of walking you describe. I'm obese and I walk 4 miles every single day, and at my weight (203 lbs) that's about 500 calories.
It would help ENORMOUSLY if you also described how you measure all your food portions (do you weigh your food, do you use measuring cups, do you "eyeball" portions, do you "not believe in counting calories" etc). You're very likely to get lots of advise to start using a food scale to measure your solid foods.
Current weight: 184lbs
I measure everything. I need to invest in a good kitchen scale to weigh things as well.
And yes I do believe in counting calories, thats why I am using MFP in the first place.0 -
2.7 pounds in 5 weeks means about a 1/2 pound loss each week. Depending on how much you have to lose that's not so bad. When you have more to lose it comes off quicker. When you get closer to goal it slows down. Either way .5 lbs =1750 cal=250 calorie deficit. So right now you are eating 250 calories fewer than your tdee requirements.0
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I measure everything. I need to invest in a good kitchen scale to weigh things as well.
And yes I do believe in counting calories, thats why I am using MFP in the first place.
Watch this video. Measuring cups/spoons are not accurate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
A "good kitchen scale" isn't much of an investment. You can get them from $10-20 at Walmart, Amazon, etc.0 -
i just went back through a few days and it seems that your intake is low if you are measuring it correctly. Id suggest too low given the added walking. Just my opinion but i have experiencde less weight loss or no weight loss over a few months a few times when i was trying too hard. fluke maybe, but for me i now strive to get fairly close most of the time. occasionally if there is a defecit on a big excercise day i dont worry too much but not everyday0
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I measure everything. I need to invest in a good kitchen scale to weigh things as well.
And yes I do believe in counting calories, thats why I am using MFP in the first place.
Watch this video. Measuring cups/spoons are not accurate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
A "good kitchen scale" isn't much of an investment. You can get them from $10-20 at Walmart, Amazon, etc.
Thanks for the link...and by invest I simply meant pick one up.0 -
A good scale will definitely help with accuracy., I think it's an invaluable tool. But honestly, it doesn't sound tooooo bad and you may just need to hang in there. I had 6 weeks of faithful weighing, logging and deficit eating without any change on the scale; just up and down the same two pounds. They I randomly lost 6 pounds in a week. Try upping your water intake if you are regularly hitting high sodium numbers. It's always worth tweaking things like that when you're concerned, it might get something moving,
Are you taking your measurements? If they're going down steadily than I wouldn't worry too much about the scales, it'll follow eventually. Steady decreases in waist, hip and thigh is what stopped me freaking out during my apparent plateau .0 -
i just went back through a few days and it seems that your intake is low if you are measuring it correctly. Id suggest too low given the added walking. Just my opinion but i have experiencde less weight loss or no weight loss over a few months a few times when i was trying too hard. fluke maybe, but for me i now strive to get fairly close most of the time. occasionally if there is a defecit on a big excercise day i dont worry too much but not everyday
So I should be aiming higher than the 1300 calories per day? I usually try to eat back my exercise cals but often times I dont get them all in, and it seems a bit crazy to work hard at exercising and then just eat more.0 -
A good scale will definitely help with accuracy., I think it's an invaluable tool. But honestly, it doesn't sound tooooo bad and you may just need to hang in there. I had 6 weeks of faithful weighing, logging and deficit eating without any change on the scale; just up and down the same two pounds. They I randomly lost 6 pounds in a week. Try upping your water intake if you are regularly hitting high sodium numbers. It's always worth tweaking things like that when you're concerned, it might get something moving,
Are you taking your measurements? If they're going down steadily than I wouldn't worry too much about the scales, it'll follow eventually. Steady decreases in waist, hip and thigh is what stopped me freaking out during my apparent plateau .
No I have never measured. My pants feel a bit loser but not enough to go down a size. I will try for more water, I dont always do great with that. My weight seems to be sticking within a 5lbs range its been this way for about 3 months now. Its nice to maintain but I want to lose that remaining 40lbs.0 -
Thanks for opening your diary, it's helpful. A couple of questions:
1. I notice that there's quite a lot of variation in the number of calories you log each day. Based on past conversations I've had with other users, I'm gonna have to ask: is that because you actually eat differently every day, or is it because some days you give up logging halfway through the day? A LOT OF PEOPLE do the second thing. Obviously, that won't help -- you'll have to be honest with yourself.
2. I notice there are many entries for home-made food, which can be helpful. However, it's difficult to tell if they're foods you've prepared yourself and added to the database via the recipe builder, or if you've used someone else's entry that got added to the database. Many relatively new users such as yourself do the second thing. That can be very problematic, as you simply don't know whether the way they prepared the dish was more or less caloric than the way the person who prepared the dish did for you. Obviously if you're eating out you don't have much choice, etc., but in that case I'd always advise you to use the MOST CONSERVATIVE (i.e., most high-calorie!) entry in the database you can find that looks reasonable. Learn to look at the nutritional info of database entries with a critical eye. Generally you can *sort of* trust the database entries for big brand names, chain restaurants, and the like because they tend to make their nutritional info public, and they're required to be accurate to within 25%. (That's ONLY 25% btw, and often they're actually less accurate than that because honestly, who checks?!). But anything without a brand name attached or that you didn't prepare yourself is likely to be very, very wrong.
3. Measuring foods. A lot of people don't want to measure foods when they're just starting out. It seems like a PITA, or they believe they'll have a "disordered relationship with food." That's all well and good, BUT. As a newbie it's a VERY GOOD IDEA to at least go through a measuring phase for a month or so, because it will train your eye. I see a lot of items in your diary that are solid foods but logged as 1/2 cup, etc. Chances are you're underestimating those. You might be inclined to argue "but it can't add up to that much." TRUST ME. IT CAN. If you're 25% off on bready things, buttery things, potato-y things, peanut buttery things, sugary things, even microwave popcorn, it can add up to a lot of calories ALARMINGLY FAST. A food scale is best for solid foods. They're cheap and easy to use for any foods you prepare or plate up at home.
4. I'm not going to food shame you for what you're eating -- I don't think that's constructive! But I will just say that I notice you eat a lot of high sodium foods, like take-out and restaurant foods, etc.. That's not going to have ANY negative effect on fat loss over the long term and is nothing to worry about (see, not food shaming!). HOWEVER. It can make it difficult for your fat loss to show up as "weight" loss on the scale over short periods of time like a month. People who are retaining water can be losing fat without seeming to lose "weight" based on scale measurements for actually WEEKS, then suddenly "whoosh" the water weight away in quick spurts. {shrug} It happens.
TLDR: You've been at this for 35 days, and you've lost 2.7 pounds -- congratulations! It is not at all unusual for relative newbies like yourself to see limited results like this at first while you figure out how to use the logging features accurately and consistently. I know a lot of people report very fast losses at first, then slow down, but it can happen the other way too, especially if you need some practice and experience logging.0 -
It would help ENORMOUSLY if you also described how you measure all your food portions (do you weigh your food, do you use measuring cups, do you "eyeball" portions, do you "not believe in counting calories" etc).
Sorry if I caused offense the way I worded that. Just be aware there have been some EPIC flamewars right here on MFP from people who really claim to "not believe in counting calories." So while it wouldn't be logical, it's also not necessarily "obviously" why you're here unfortunately. :laugh:0 -
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets
If you aren't already using one, get and use a food scale. Weigh all solids. Measuring cups/spoons are not accurate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
Neither is guessing:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1270280-food-weighing-scale-miracles
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1234699-logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide
http://www.acaloriecounter.com/blog/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/
It's all right here.0 -
Thanks for opening your diary, it's helpful. A couple of questions:
1. I notice that there's quite a lot of variation in the number of calories you log each day. Based on past conversations I've had with other users, I'm gonna have to ask: is that because you actually eat differently every day, or is it because some days you give up logging halfway through the day? A LOT OF PEOPLE do the second thing. Obviously, that won't help -- you'll have to be honest with yourself.
2. I notice there are many entries for home-made food, which can be helpful. However, it's difficult to tell if they're foods you've prepared yourself and added to the database via the recipe builder, or if you've used someone else's entry that got added to the database. Many relatively new users such as yourself do the second thing. That can be very problematic, as you simply don't know whether the way they prepared the dish was more or less caloric than the way the person who prepared the dish did for you. Obviously if you're eating out you don't have much choice, etc., but in that case I'd always advise you to use the MOST CONSERVATIVE (i.e., most high-calorie!) entry in the database you can find that looks reasonable. Learn to look at the nutritional info of database entries with a critical eye. Generally you can *sort of* trust the database entries for big brand names, chain restaurants, and the like because they tend to make their nutritional info public, and they're required to be accurate to within 25%. (That's ONLY 25% btw, and often they're actually less accurate than that because honestly, who checks?!). But anything without a brand name attached or that you didn't prepare yourself is likely to be very, very wrong.
3. Measuring foods. A lot of people don't want to measure foods when they're just starting out. It seems like a PITA, or they believe they'll have a "disordered relationship with food." That's all well and good, BUT. As a newbie it's a VERY GOOD IDEA to at least go through a measuring phase for a month or so, because it will train your eye. I see a lot of items in your diary that are solid foods but logged as 1/2 cup, etc. Chances are you're underestimating those. You might be inclined to argue "but it can't add up to that much." TRUST ME. IT CAN. If you're 25% off on bready things, buttery things, potato-y things, peanut buttery things, sugary things, even microwave popcorn, it can add up to a lot of calories ALARMINGLY FAST. A food scale is best for solid foods. They're cheap and easy to use for any foods you prepare or plate up at home.
4. I'm not going to food shame you for what you're eating -- I don't think that's constructive! But I will just say that I notice you eat a lot of high sodium foods, like take-out and restaurant foods, etc.. That's not going to have ANY negative effect on fat loss over the long term and is nothing to worry about (see, not food shaming!). HOWEVER. It can make it difficult for your fat loss to show up as "weight" loss on the scale over short periods of time like a month. People who are retaining water can be losing fat without seeming to lose "weight" based on scale measurements for actually WEEKS, then suddenly "whoosh" the water weight away in quick spurts. {shrug} It happens.
TLDR: You've been at this for 35 days, and you've lost 2.7 pounds -- congratulations! It is not at all unusual for relative newbies like yourself to see limited results like this at first while you figure out how to use the logging features accurately and consistently. I know a lot of people report very fast losses at first, then slow down, but it can happen the other way too, especially if you need some practice and experience logging.
Thank you for your insight and thoughts and most of all for not food shaming me.
1. I am logging everything that I eat. I make it point to sit down after every meal and log in everything that I have had. I know that my days seem erratic but most days I dont eat a lot, the days with higher amounts I am making myself eat extra to get closer to the requirement.
2. I am a stay at home mom and have a degree in culinary arts, so yes a lot of my meals tend to be home made. I prefer that to pre packaged foods. I try to always use the bar codes provided on the packages of each item to get the nutritional info or in the case of a fast food place, I will ask for their pamphlet to get the info or look it up on their website. I know that it isn't exact but it's the best I can do. I do occasionally use the items that someone else has added but, once again I try to read through all the choices provided and average what would be the best, and usually I do choose the highest amount, just to be on the safe side.
3. I measure everything! Like I said above, I have been slacking on buying a scale, simply because I don't think about it when in town, but I will make it a point to pick one up tomorrow. Although I am new to MFP I am not new to counting calories or measuring/weighing foods, as I did weight watchers in the past.
4. Yes, lately I have been eating a lot og high sodium take out foods. I have been hating that, but life has been busy and oft times that means eating on the go. Time to pack a lunch when I can.0 -
It would help ENORMOUSLY if you also described how you measure all your food portions (do you weigh your food, do you use measuring cups, do you "eyeball" portions, do you "not believe in counting calories" etc).
Sorry if I caused offense the way I worded that. Just be aware there have been some EPIC flamewars right here on MFP from people who really claim to "not believe in counting calories." So while it wouldn't be logical, it's also not necessarily "obviously" why you're here unfortunately. :laugh:
Nah no offense taken. Lifes too short to get upset over small things like that...just wanted to be sure that I stated that yes I am taking this very seriously.0 -
So I should be aiming higher than the 1300 calories per day? I usually try to eat back my exercise cals but often times I dont get them all in, and it seems a bit crazy to work hard at exercising and then just eat more.
If using MFP's net calorie method, yes. eat back 50-75% of your logged calories. MFP gives you an estimate for non-exercise activity levels. Meaning if you don't eat back exercise cals, you are further under-eating.
Weight/measure your food, set your goal to 1lb a week instead of 2lbs a week, make sure all entries you log are accurate (I just create my own), use your own recipes instead of searching unless you are having to guesstimate something you did not make, etc. Drinking more water will help. And being honest with your non-exercise activity level also helps.
ETA you might want to consider logging before or during meal prep. Meaning have your phone out, or at least a pad and pen, and jot down what you are grabbing. So if you grab 4oz chicken breast, a cup of cooked rice, and a cup of broccoli (since you stated you measure food instead of weighing it), then write that down as you are grabbing it. Otherwise you might find that you accidentally put that you ate half a cup of rice nad 3oz of chicken because you forgot the actual amount. If I'm not about to head to my computer to jot it down, or don't have my phone on me, I write it on the kitchen erase board or on something else so I can log it afterwards.0 -
I would say stick to your calorie goal for now - I don't think you need to think about increasing it yet! It sounds like you're being very do,invent and honest about this so my advice, for what's it worth would be to
1. Measure yourself! The scale is absolutely not the on,y or best measure of success, especially not in the short term. Just because you haven't gone didn't a dress size yet doesn't mean you haven't lost on measurement.
2. Pick up that food scale
3. More water and/or less sodium (we've all been there with periods where calories haven't come from the best source, no big deal, life happens, you'll sort it out when you can.
4. That dreaded P word... Patience. Do this for a couple of weeks at least before you worry about the scale again
PSi rarely eat back exercise calories. I don't care what anyone says about it being necessary, I feel good and this works for me, I only do it when I really feel my body demand it. But even then never 100 per cent - I just don't trust the burns given, they seem way too high.0 -
I would say stick to your calorie goal for now - I don't think you need to think about increasing it yet! It sounds like you're being very do,invent and honest about this so my advice, for what's it worth would be to
1. Measure yourself! The scale is absolutely not the on,y or best measure of success, especially not in the short term. Just because you haven't gone didn't a dress size yet doesn't mean you haven't lost on measurement.
2. Pick up that food scale
3. More water and/or less sodium (we've all been there with periods where calories haven't come from the best source, no big deal, life happens, you'll sort it out when you can.
4. That dreaded P word... Patience. Do this for a couple of weeks at least before you worry about the scale again
PSi rarely eat back exercise calories. I don't care what anyone says about it being necessary, I feel good and this works for me, I only do it when I really feel my body demand it. But even then never 100 per cent - I just don't trust the burns given, they seem way too high.
Thanks hon..Scales just made the top of my list for tomorrow!0 -
Doinvent was meant to read diligent - typing with a kid in your arms is not such a great idea. Happy shopping0
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Thinking your cals are too low on most days and aiming for 1200 may just be too low to begin. As you start losing you will be bringing the amount down. If you start at 1200 if you stall out, where will you go, 1100? Probably not a good idea. You said you have a culinary degree, well then you enjoy cooking I assume? I get having a hectic life, but maybe you can prepare meals ahead of time. I like having Jamie Eason's turkey muffins in the fridge for instance 1-2 is like 200 cals, and 20 g of protein. I also make things like beans that stay in the fridge all week long so I eat them daily with bagged veggies so I only have to prepare my chicken, which I will marinate the day before sometimes. When and if I eat noodles, fries, chips or anything salty I tend to retain water for what feels like forever.
I too lost weight many years ago on cutting and walking, unfortunately once I started eating the amount of cals I should have been it all came back. This time around I started at about 155 and cut my cals to about 1200, and managed to lose but towards the end I was lifting and eating about 1600 cals and was still dropping until I had to reach about 18-1900 cals to stop the loss. I think you could eat more, but maybe try and adjust your choices some. Have you considered lifting? I am a sahm too, well I also go to school (5classes) and have children with different schedules, so the best thing for me was to put a bench and weights in my living room.
Right now I am up 9 lbs from a stupid hiatus (six months) I went on due to a shoulder separation and for some reason I can't seem to eat more than 1200 cals, been at it again for about 35 days (according to my consecutive log in days), my point is getting started is always like a game of trial and error, the longer you go at it, the more you learn. When first starting off I always am so worried about over eating that I under eat, then get used to eating less. Since getting back on track I have only dropped one pound, and I am not letting it bother me or affect my motivation, so don't get discouraged you will get there, and the longer it takes the more you will learn along the way!0 -
Melaniesilver:
Ms Sympha01 has some very sound advise! I follow her guide lines as closely as I can and it works.
I carefully measure my foods. At 185 pounds I was eating only 1,200 calories per day. I couldn't keep to that strict count and everyday I went over. After I got stuck at 175 pounds for 3 weeks I reset my counter to 1082 calories. I have never went over my 1,200 limit since that time. Guess its my head game. Its silly but it works for me.
I never use the cheat days. One of MFP friends who lost over 100 pounds said " don't do it " and I listened. That seemed to work also. I was happy for that advise.
I have limited time to exercise and I work many, many hours. I am a caregiver to the disabled, therefore the food and calories are my only way to loose weight. I like to walk if I do get a chance but its maybe once a week for an hour.
I found from using this program MFP that the salt is a HUGE problem for me. My family has a history of heart disease and I have to follow the American Heart Association guide lines on salt amounts. If I go over 1,500 grams of salt and I'm gaining weight for a week. If I eat pizza, olives, some certain salad dressings, spaghetti sauces, soups or salt my meat, I can gain 3-5 pounds overnight that takes a week to drop off. Then I have to start at the original weight for maybe a week. So that becomes a 2-3 week set back.
That's just my experience. You have to do what works for you. Trial and error for you body. What I found, its never works exactly the way you want. Hang in there and good luck.0 -
Thank you for your insight and thoughts and most of all for not food shaming me.
1. I am logging everything that I eat. I make it point to sit down after every meal and log in everything that I have had. I know that my days seem erratic but most days I dont eat a lot, the days with higher amounts I am making myself eat extra to get closer to the requirement.
2. I am a stay at home mom and have a degree in culinary arts, so yes a lot of my meals tend to be home made. I prefer that to pre packaged foods. I try to always use the bar codes provided on the packages of each item to get the nutritional info or in the case of a fast food place, I will ask for their pamphlet to get the info or look it up on their website. I know that it isn't exact but it's the best I can do. I do occasionally use the items that someone else has added but, once again I try to read through all the choices provided and average what would be the best, and usually I do choose the highest amount, just to be on the safe side.
3. I measure everything! Like I said above, I have been slacking on buying a scale, simply because I don't think about it when in town, but I will make it a point to pick one up tomorrow. Although I am new to MFP I am not new to counting calories or measuring/weighing foods, as I did weight watchers in the past.
4. Yes, lately I have been eating a lot og high sodium take out foods. I have been hating that, but life has been busy and oft times that means eating on the go. Time to pack a lunch when I can.
1. I'm reading between the lines on your response here (as well as some things you've said in other comments), but you sound a bit overly concerned to me with "not eating a lot." 1300 calories is rather low for someone your size and activity level. Obviously you want a caloric deficit, but do be careful about attaching moral virtue to the idea of eating very little. The ideal situation for many of us is where you actually CAN eat a lot and still lose weight! (e.g., by choosing more nutrient-dense foods over calorie-dense foods; by getting fitter and improving your body composition so you're using your lean body mass to burn calories like a freakin' humvee, etc.).
::I:: eat "a lot." It's not because I'm a special snowflake with a "superior" metabolism, or I wouldn't have gotten super-obese in the first place, or had so much trouble losing weight in the past. It's because a lot (not all!) of my food volume is more nutrient- than calorie-dense, so MOAR VOLUME (I ate almost 4 pounds of eggplant this week and MAN am I full!); and because I've been very successful so far at using resistance training to maximize fat mass loss and minimize lean body mass loss so MOAR CALORIES. I'm not saying that's what YOU need to do -- I'm just saying there's more than one way to skin a cat and one way isn't more virtuous than another.
Just food for thought. Which ... has no calories, so.
2. If you're cooking for yourself -- great! Personally I think those of us who like to and are willing to cook for ourselves have a HUGE advantage in this diet game (though again, it's not necessarily "virtuous"). But just the same, my question about whether you're using the database or the recipe builder for your home-made foods is a valid one. I know plenty of people (one of my best MFP friends in fact!) who cook extensively for themselves and their families, but frequently use other people's (or restaurant) database entries for the dish for whatever reason. MFP's recipe-builder has a MADDENINGLY poorly user-interface, but it's THERE and still your best tool for food you cook yourself.
And, ah, the bar codes! As you dive deeper into the database, you'll find that there are multiple entries for almost everything -- including packaged foods with bar codes. Some of them are accurate, some of them are ... less so. When you use the bar code, you may or may not be getting the accurate entries. It probably doesn't add up to much, but be cautious when it's a calorie-dense product like peanut butter, mayonnaise, butter, etc., because small inaccuracies will be more important there.
3. Again, please don't take my referring to you as a "newbie" as an attack or a slight. You may be experienced in counting calories, but you are a newbie to using the MFP database. It takes time to learn how to spot and avoid the many, many, MANY inaccuracies in there. It may have the biggest, most extensive food database out there, but that's only because it's got so many duplicates and user-submitted inaccurate entries. I love MFP -- it's why I'm still here, right? -- and I'm not slamming it; using MFP I have much more control over the ease and accuracy with logging compared to the other sites I know. But you do have to know its quirks to get the most out of it. Honestly, once you've been on here more than 6 months, I'd challenge you at that point to go back and look at how you were logging at the beginning. 15 months in, and I log really differently from the way I logged my first 6 months.
4. And once more, with the anti-virtue, anti-food-shaming here. Keep eating salty foods if they make you blissfully happy or are just too insanely convenient, etc. After all, you'll stick to your plan much longer if it's EASY TO STICK TO.* I only brought this up to advise you to be PATIENT. 35 days is NOTHING in terms of watching your results. If you weigh in the 180s, you SHOULDN'T be losing more than 1 lb a week probably, unless you're very very short. If you've been averaging 1/2 lb per week and you've only been tracking for about one menstrual cycle (RELEVANT!) you're doing FINE. I find you really have to go through more than one menstrual cycle to have a handle on your average loss rate. Partly because many women's loss patterns are closely linked to their cycle, and then partly because *kitten* happens, especially with sodium. It's entirely possible you really HAVE lost 5 lbs of fat in this time, not 2.7; you just need to give it time to show up on the scale. Especially if the lag is sodium-related, the good stuff has already happened. When the scale shows it is really not meaningful. It'll show up eventually and your average will appear higher (and more accurate). Unless you have a diagnosed health problem, you don't NEED to lower your sodium, though if lowering it will help you with the mental health mindf*ck part of seeing results (LAWD, I get that!), then godspeed.
*When people ask me "my secret" to losing weight, I say: it's conquering the mindf*ck of dieting. Sometimes you don't see results and it's discouraging and makes you want to quit, particularly if your diet and exercise plan is unpleasant. So keeping the plan simple and enjoyable helps make it easier to stick to when things don't seem to be working. Don't make yourself miserable eating so little food you're hungry or weak or feeling deprived. Eat delicious food -- heck eat CONVENIENT food -- but do it mindfully. Have a plan and stick to it. TRUST THE DEFICIT even when you don't see results right away. TRUST THE DEFICIT when you get stuck for weeks. The scale is a liar, and the fat loss will show up.0 -
i wasnt trying to say eat more than 1300, more to actually eat the 1300, or very close to it and eat back most of your excercise calories. As someone else mentioned it seems that there is a large variation from day to day, thats all0
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Thank you for your insight and thoughts and most of all for not food shaming me.
1. I am logging everything that I eat. I make it point to sit down after every meal and log in everything that I have had. I know that my days seem erratic but most days I dont eat a lot, the days with higher amounts I am making myself eat extra to get closer to the requirement.
2. I am a stay at home mom and have a degree in culinary arts, so yes a lot of my meals tend to be home made. I prefer that to pre packaged foods. I try to always use the bar codes provided on the packages of each item to get the nutritional info or in the case of a fast food place, I will ask for their pamphlet to get the info or look it up on their website. I know that it isn't exact but it's the best I can do. I do occasionally use the items that someone else has added but, once again I try to read through all the choices provided and average what would be the best, and usually I do choose the highest amount, just to be on the safe side.
3. I measure everything! Like I said above, I have been slacking on buying a scale, simply because I don't think about it when in town, but I will make it a point to pick one up tomorrow. Although I am new to MFP I am not new to counting calories or measuring/weighing foods, as I did weight watchers in the past.
4. Yes, lately I have been eating a lot og high sodium take out foods. I have been hating that, but life has been busy and oft times that means eating on the go. Time to pack a lunch when I can.
1. I'm reading between the lines on your response here (as well as some things you've said in other comments), but you sound a bit overly concerned to me with "not eating a lot." 1300 calories is rather low for someone your size and activity level. Obviously you want a caloric deficit, but do be careful about attaching moral virtue to the idea of eating very little. The ideal situation for many of us is where you actually CAN eat a lot and still lose weight! (e.g., by choosing more nutrient-dense foods over calorie-dense foods; by getting fitter and improving your body composition so you're using your lean body mass to burn calories like a freakin' humvee, etc.).
::I:: eat "a lot." It's not because I'm a special snowflake with a "superior" metabolism, or I wouldn't have gotten super-obese in the first place, or had so much trouble losing weight in the past. It's because a lot (not all!) of my food volume is more nutrient- than calorie-dense, so MOAR VOLUME (I ate almost 4 pounds of eggplant this week and MAN am I full!); and because I've been very successful so far at using resistance training to maximize fat mass loss and minimize lean body mass loss so MOAR CALORIES. I'm not saying that's what YOU need to do -- I'm just saying there's more than one way to skin a cat and one way isn't more virtuous than another.
Just food for thought. Which ... has no calories, so.
2. If you're cooking for yourself -- great! Personally I think those of us who like to and are willing to cook for ourselves have a HUGE advantage in this diet game (though again, it's not necessarily "virtuous"). But just the same, my question about whether you're using the database or the recipe builder for your home-made foods is a valid one. I know plenty of people (one of my best MFP friends in fact!) who cook extensively for themselves and their families, but frequently use other people's (or restaurant) database entries for the dish for whatever reason. MFP's recipe-builder has a MADDENINGLY poorly user-interface, but it's THERE and still your best tool for food you cook yourself.
And, ah, the bar codes! As you dive deeper into the database, you'll find that there are multiple entries for almost everything -- including packaged foods with bar codes. Some of them are accurate, some of them are ... less so. When you use the bar code, you may or may not be getting the accurate entries. It probably doesn't add up to much, but be cautious when it's a calorie-dense product like peanut butter, mayonnaise, butter, etc., because small inaccuracies will be more important there.
3. Again, please don't take my referring to you as a "newbie" as an attack or a slight. You may be experienced in counting calories, but you are a newbie to using the MFP database. It takes time to learn how to spot and avoid the many, many, MANY inaccuracies in there. It may have the biggest, most extensive food database out there, but that's only because it's got so many duplicates and user-submitted inaccurate entries. I love MFP -- it's why I'm still here, right? -- and I'm not slamming it; using MFP I have much more control over the ease and accuracy with logging compared to the other sites I know. But you do have to know its quirks to get the most out of it. Honestly, once you've been on here more than 6 months, I'd challenge you at that point to go back and look at how you were logging at the beginning. 15 months in, and I log really differently from the way I logged my first 6 months.
4. And once more, with the anti-virtue, anti-food-shaming here. Keep eating salty foods if they make you blissfully happy or are just too insanely convenient, etc. After all, you'll stick to your plan much longer if it's EASY TO STICK TO.* I only brought this up to advise you to be PATIENT. 35 days is NOTHING in terms of watching your results. If you weigh in the 180s, you SHOULDN'T be losing more than 1 lb a week probably, unless you're very very short. If you've been averaging 1/2 lb per week and you've only been tracking for about one menstrual cycle (RELEVANT!) you're doing FINE. I find you really have to go through more than one menstrual cycle to have a handle on your average loss rate. Partly because many women's loss patterns are closely linked to their cycle, and then partly because *kitten* happens, especially with sodium. It's entirely possible you really HAVE lost 5 lbs of fat in this time, not 2.7; you just need to give it time to show up on the scale. Especially if the lag is sodium-related, the good stuff has already happened. When the scale shows it is really not meaningful. It'll show up eventually and your average will appear higher (and more accurate). Unless you have a diagnosed health problem, you don't NEED to lower your sodium, though if lowering it will help you with the mental health mindf*ck part of seeing results (LAWD, I get that!), then godspeed.
*When people ask me "my secret" to losing weight, I say: it's conquering the mindf*ck of dieting. Sometimes you don't see results and it's discouraging and makes you want to quit, particularly if your diet and exercise plan is unpleasant. So keeping the plan simple and enjoyable helps make it easier to stick to when things don't seem to be working. Don't make yourself miserable eating so little food you're hungry or weak or feeling deprived. Eat delicious food -- heck eat CONVENIENT food -- but do it mindfully. Have a plan and stick to it. TRUST THE DEFICIT even when you don't see results right away. TRUST THE DEFICIT when you get stuck for weeks. The scale is a liar, and the fat loss will show up.
Thank you. I think I just need to learn to be patient. Trust me, I am not concerned with only eating a little..I love food, especially carb filled foods, so in trying to avoid those, I find myself maybe not making the best of choices, for example higher in sodium. And all of this..well yeah to a degree it is about losing weight, but to a larger degree its about being happy with myself, and I haven't been that for a long time now. I just want to look in the mirror and feel pretty instead of wanting to hide.
Either way, I appreciate you taking the time to offer up some suggestions. I am taking notes0 -
i wasnt trying to say eat more than 1300, more to actually eat the 1300, or very close to it and eat back most of your excercise calories. As someone else mentioned it seems that there is a large variation from day to day, thats all
Ahhh...Ok thanks0
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