Female who WANTS to get a little bulky?
ishkur
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I see tons of posts about women being afraid that if they lift more than a pink 5lb weight they will explode into a she-hulk overnight, and tons of posts and articles about how its impossible for that to happen, that "women can't get bulky, they just get a toned figure". Which is nice and all, but I personally want to look athletic, maybe more than athletic. I want to look close to those who compete in Figure, or maybe between Figure and Physique. Which to me isn't too bulky to me, its just right. I was wondering if it is possible to reach that sort of fitness naturally, without steroids? I currently am bulking and lift around 6 hours a week, what would it take to reach that if it is possible? I'm willing to put my all into it, its something I want a lot, and have looked up to strong women since I was a kid. Could maybe some of you tell me how you started, and your stories to reach you're figure? Thanks!
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Yes- it's possibly to reach that naturally and without taking extra things.
But it's a LOT of work- usually will take you at least a year to get a satisfactory look- then another round or two to get what you really want.
You're going to bulk-then have to cut body fat to look defined.
Totally do-able.0 -
I'd also mention that it's going to be easier if you are following a well defined lifting program with progressive resistance. A lot of people don't have the experience to write an effective lifting program.0
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Yes- it's possibly to reach that naturally and without taking extra things.
But it's a LOT of work- usually will take you at least a year to get a satisfactory look- then another round or two to get what you really want.
You're going to bulk-then have to cut body fat to look defined.
Totally do-able.
Thank you for reassuring me. I've read so many articles that made me feel like it would never happen. I'm ready to do the work.0 -
I'd also mention that it's going to be easier if you are following a well defined lifting program with progressive resistance. A lot of people don't have the experience to write an effective lifting program.
Could you link me to any programs you know that have had high success rate? I'm currently doing my own routine, and I'm getting good results, but I want the best. Thank you.0 -
Yes, it's possible. But takes super strict nutrition and a hellavu lot of strength training.0
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I'd also mention that it's going to be easier if you are following a well defined lifting program with progressive resistance. A lot of people don't have the experience to write an effective lifting program.
Could you link me to any programs you know that have had high success rate? I'm currently doing my own routine, and I'm getting good results, but I want the best. Thank you.
any program that's progressive will be good- and any program you'll do.
The which one is largely irrelevant- building a really solid base of STRENGTH before really hammaring for size is wise (Remeber Arnold started young with Oly lifting before switching to body building)
We often suggest something like strong lifts- starting strength- new rules of lifting- this will just get you strong- and you can really pack on some size and then go for definition later.
You don't have to do it that way- but it's a good way to go- gives you something to work with.0 -
I'd also mention that it's going to be easier if you are following a well defined lifting program with progressive resistance. A lot of people don't have the experience to write an effective lifting program.
Could you link me to any programs you know that have had high success rate? I'm currently doing my own routine, and I'm getting good results, but I want the best. Thank you.
any program that's progressive will be good- and any program you'll do.
The which one is largely irrelevant- building a really solid base of STRENGTH before really hammaring for size is wise (Remeber Arnold started young with Oly lifting before switching to body building)
We often suggest something like strong lifts- starting strength- new rules of lifting- this will just get you strong- and you can really pack on some size and then go for definition later.
You don't have to do it that way- but it's a good way to go- gives you something to work with.
In all honesty, if she really wants to look like that, she needs to shell out some money for a qualified (not just certified) personal trainer who has experience in training figure competitors.0 -
Theres a woman on her that has a blog, i cant remember her user name ,the post i first saw her on was like fluffy mom to fitness something. She had her whole routine on it. I can tell you,it aint for sissys. But she has an incredible body and competes. I was specifically looking at her leg routine and wow she is doing the work. I also remember that she doesnt follow a set plan other than the major compound lifts. Maybe someone else remembers it. Im willing to do the weight work but cant do the nutrition right, guess i just dont want it bad enough.0
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I'd also mention that it's going to be easier if you are following a well defined lifting program with progressive resistance. A lot of people don't have the experience to write an effective lifting program.
Could you link me to any programs you know that have had high success rate? I'm currently doing my own routine, and I'm getting good results, but I want the best. Thank you.
any program that's progressive will be good- and any program you'll do.
The which one is largely irrelevant- building a really solid base of STRENGTH before really hammaring for size is wise (Remeber Arnold started young with Oly lifting before switching to body building)
We often suggest something like strong lifts- starting strength- new rules of lifting- this will just get you strong- and you can really pack on some size and then go for definition later.
You don't have to do it that way- but it's a good way to go- gives you something to work with.
Also, the programs mentioned are focused on compound lifts which give you "more bang for your buck". You can spend less time in the gym why still accomplishing a lot. This does not mean that you can't get the size and body you want with isolation work, but you will be spending lots of time in the gym. There are many ways to skin a cat; find what works for you.
I agree that if you are wanting to be a body competitor, then you might want to get a specialized trainer. If you just like that body type but aren't looking to spend that much money, I start with a general strength program. As you gain more experience with how the exercises affect your body and look you can add in more accessory work where you need it.0 -
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I've been trying to get bulky for two years. I LOOK bulkier at the moment because I'm carrying 23% body fat, but I won't look as bulky when I cut and get my abs back. I look a lot bigger when I flex than when I walk around like normal.0
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I have just started my first proper bulk too. I want to get bigger and am looking forward to it too. I'm very early days (4 weeks) and goin until January for now to see how I get on. It's not long but will reassess when I get there0
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Just took a quick look at your diary too. You're going to need A LOT more than 1800 net calories to bulk...I guarantee it.0
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I agree with DjinnMarie...I would not attempt something like that without having a qualified personal trainer help you. For me, I am afraid it would just become fat.0
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1 - no, you don't need steroids
2 - lift intensely enough to cause micro-tears to muscle fibers so your body rebuilds muscle, you may want to incorporate pre-workout or creatine into your workout regimen. Creatine, by the way, has a greater impact on women than it does men. Just be aware that you will also need to drink a lot more water when using creatine.
3 - consume enough protein and amino acids to help your body rebuild muscle and gain mass
4 - follow a strict diet if you are looking to compete (esp. in Physique)
5 - get enough sleep to rebuild muscle
6 - be patient, it won't happen overnight
7 - if you can, work out with someone who does bodybuilding, you'll find it easier to stick to your routine that way (and won't face all of the questions re: what? you want to get bigger? why?)0 -
Finally, a chic who wants some muscles!! I'm with ya! I've been lifting heavy for just over 2 yrs now and have put on about 14 lbs of lean mass. I'm a super ectomorph; tall (5'10"), very lanky and very vascular (low body fat). It's hard for me to gain weight in general but putting on muscle has taken some very dedicated consistent work. Oh, and lots and lots of good whole foods! I lift 6 days a week and do HIIT for cardio. You certainly do NOT need steroids. I am super happy with the way my body has changed and I have EARNED ever bit of muscle of have. I love this lifestyle and I really think that's the key. You gotta love it in order to stick to it and really put he work in. It's worth it I PROMISE! Consistency, consistency, consistency! Split up you body parts and hit 'em hard. Drop sets, super sets, giant sets, do it all. Change it up but keep the intensity week after week. Above all, educate yourself on different techniques and things to try. Bodybuilding.com has info on just about everything from how to use gym equipment to different ways of hitting target muscles, etc. Have fun and kill it!0
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I've been trying to get bulky for two years. I LOOK bulkier at the moment because I'm carrying 23% body fat, but I won't look as bulky when I cut and get my abs back. I look a lot bigger when I flex than when I walk around like normal.I agree with DjinnMarie...I would not attempt something like that without having a qualified personal trainer help you. For me, I am afraid it would just become fat.
two important points- USMCMP made one-
1.) you can be big- but not really look it. I'm same same boat as her- we have a thing at my dance studio at this point called "do the thing"
And do the thing means- "hey Jo- Flex for us" because flexed Jo is way bigger looking than just walking Jo.
It's hysterical (to me)
2.) Those fitness models do NOT walk around looking like that 365 days a year. You can get big- and really good looking without ever having to hit the uber low body fat percentage of a fitness/physique competitor.
Getting down to the low 20's in body fat should get you a pretty solid defined look- and you can easily do that on your own without a professional's help.
But- I do agree- if you really want to compete- or get to that level hire someone (although- to be fair- if you want to go that far you might as well compete)0 -
For me, the key was a high level of protein, and a combination of weights (started with stronglifts), HIIT and determination.
I also did boxing workouts and circuits on top of those things. That and a series of accidental bulks, followed by cuts, lol.
But I am not really that muscular, more on the lean side with a low bodyfat%0 -
I add a supplement called "probolic-sr" twice a day when I'm in "beast mode". Lol! It helps me put on muscle weight way easier that just eating more. I've also done the Ketogenic diet for a while before. Both of those together with training helped me put on 18 lbs last year.0
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Just took a quick look at your diary too. You're going to need A LOT more than 1800 net calories to bulk...I guarantee it.
Oh my, yes! I have to eat at least 2,400!0 -
Adding one more thing to the list I sent you earlier...
Supersets - I do TONS of these (literally), especially when I'm working out at hotel gyms whose weights are limited to dumbbells and have nothing higher than 45 or 50lb dumbbells. It's a good way to keep your heart rate elevated and maximizes blood flow and lactic acid to the muscles to encourage muscle growth.
Last, just a quick comment on gaining fat while building muscle: it is not a given that you will increase your body fat percentage while building muscle. My body fat fluctuates very little and has been a steady 17-18%. Yes, you will gain fat while gaining muscle, but the ratio of fat/muscle does not have to change substantially.0 -
I found the woman i was posting about shes " liftnlove_ " check out her blogs.0
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Interesting read. I'm coming off of my first bulk, and it didn't go as smoothly as I hoped. I put on 10-12 pounds, decent muscle, but more fat than I wanted.
It took a ton more food than I first anticipated, and a ton more lifting. I had to step up to 4-6 hours of lifting a week because my 3-f4 just wasn't cutting it.
Now I'm in a cut cycle, which is currently kinda sucky. My lifts have been suffering, so clearly I have much to learn.0 -
yep, i'm one of those females .. who is trying to earn some muscle, butt & abs .... doing it gradually though .... mainly focusing through body-weight exercises ... burpees, push-ups, mountain climbers, modified mountain climbers, yoga & stretching, stair-jogging, squats, planks .... soon pull-ups ... lol .... i've got a loooong way to go, till i earn those muscles ... but then ..... during that long time ..... the exercises would become more of a habit and life style ....0
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Just took a quick look at your diary too. You're going to need A LOT more than 1800 net calories to bulk...I guarantee it.
Oh my, yes! I have to eat at least 2,400!
I currently have my goal set to 1800 calories, meaning I burn 500 minimum at the gym, 1300 is my bmr, and then I add 200 calories to get a surplus... but this is not what I actually eat, its just so that I can plan ahead of time. I wear a heart rate monitor in the gym, and whatever calories it says I burn over 500, I add on to my exercise, and eat it back a long with the 200 calorie surplus. It usually is around 2300.0 -
I've been trying to get bulky for two years. I LOOK bulkier at the moment because I'm carrying 23% body fat, but I won't look as bulky when I cut and get my abs back. I look a lot bigger when I flex than when I walk around like normal.I agree with DjinnMarie...I would not attempt something like that without having a qualified personal trainer help you. For me, I am afraid it would just become fat.
two important points- USMCMP made one-
1.) you can be big- but not really look it. I'm same same boat as her- we have a thing at my dance studio at this point called "do the thing"
And do the thing means- "hey Jo- Flex for us" because flexed Jo is way bigger looking than just walking Jo.
It's hysterical (to me)
2.) Those fitness models do NOT walk around looking like that 365 days a year. You can get big- and really good looking without ever having to hit the uber low body fat percentage of a fitness/physique competitor.
Getting down to the low 20's in body fat should get you a pretty solid defined look- and you can easily do that on your own without a professional's help.
But- I do agree- if you really want to compete- or get to that level hire someone (although- to be fair- if you want to go that far you might as well compete)
Oh yea I know that flexed and depleted looks are a lot different than what a regular stance would be. But I do want to look lean, 18-20% body fat, not depleted though, obviously as that is not maintainable or safe.
I'm not sure if I want to compete, I don't think that I could go through the competition prep.0 -
Then you probably don't need a coach- just aggressive dieting and bulk/cut cycles for 2 years to get you what you want.0
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Protein Protein Protein and a lot of weight training. Meet with a professional trainer or get into Crossfit so you learn proper form.0
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Just took a quick look at your diary too. You're going to need A LOT more than 1800 net calories to bulk...I guarantee it.
Oh my, yes! I have to eat at least 2,400!
I currently have my goal set to 1800 calories, meaning I burn 500 minimum at the gym, 1300 is my bmr, and then I add 200 calories to get a surplus... but this is not what I actually eat, its just so that I can plan ahead of time. I wear a heart rate monitor in the gym, and whatever calories it says I burn over 500, I add on to my exercise, and eat it back a long with the 200 calorie surplus. It usually is around 2300.
Some good advice in here.
What you are going to need most is patience. I'm a guy obviously and can tell you that in the last 2 years of solid lifting 3-5x a week with bulks and cuts in there I have gained basically nothing on the arms, a little on the torso and 1kg per leg. (via dexa scan)
The less trained you are the more potential for growth you have.
Also, hrm's are not accurate for anaerobic exercise. For anyone with a regular lifting schedule, I recommend using gross figures and modifying when required.
Also, minimum protein of around .75g/lb of BW should be plenty. I'd be making up the surplus with the majority being carbs personally.0 -
It really depends on people's definition of 'bulky' - what is lean to one is muscular to another and is bulky to yet another.
Yes, you can look like some of the female competitors without taking test or steroids etc...not all, as many are on gear.
If takes time, eating at a slight surplus (unless new to lifting) when already lean, a good progressive loading lifting routine (hypertrophy focused) and sufficient protein. As Chris mentioned above, when you hit your protein (and fats), I would use your leftover calories for mainly carbs.0
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